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Apple 'Actively Investigating' Possible Hacking of Celebrity iCloud Accounts

tkatz said:
Ok, and how about this. Lets say the whole underground ring of celebrity nude images is true. As per the alternate explanation, lets also say that someone decides they want to try to make a bit of money off their new entry into this ring. Wouldn't it be a convenient cover / mis-direction to point to a popular cloud service that had just patched an exploit that, in theory, could be used to obtain the images?

Either could be true. Sure, the whole "evidence against apple" with the exploit is strong. But the evidence in that the many of the images were taken with Android phones, some being older, since deleted pictures, and also have file names indicative of other cloud services / social media sites is also pretty strong for the alternate explanation. Its easier to just blindly blame Apple and thats what the media is doing. Some of them have posted the other idea, but most haven't (i guess its easier to point the finger at Apple then a bunch of unknown hackers).

Hopefully one way or another we find out, so we can move on to things that are actually important.
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I would maybe buy the other explanation, if Apple hadn't updated it's security today... and as others have said people own Android phones and mac computers, I do, and that is how they would have been uploaded.
I don't know why the older photos are on there but I imagine the perverts had those in their collection?
The media are being careful with this, but it is now across the news sites and people will read the story with Apple's name clearly at the top. And this is 8 day's before Apple may announce NFC payments with it's new iPhones.

Apple has a problem and will need to make a statement surely, otherwise it's NFC security in the publics mind may not be so secure?
 
So Apple has this GIANT security hole and quietly fixes it TODAY without any statement?

This is unbelievably arrogant.

The tool is called iBrute.

Users on Twitter were able to use the tool from GitHub — which was published two days before being shared to Hacker News — to access their own accounts before it seems Apple patched the hole today. The owner of the tool noticed it was patched at 3:20am PT.
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http://thenextweb.com/apple/2014/09...aw-that-led-to-celebrity-photos-being-leaked/
 
cdmoore74 said:
Am I missing anything ...
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You have zero evidence that these photos actually came from iCloud.

Oh, the guy posting celeb nudes on 4chan who wants more bitcoins said he got them from iCloud? Well, that's iron clad proof right there. :rolleyes:
 
subsonix said:
Who are all recycling the same story, the fact is that none of them have the facts. Referring the their "respect" is nothing but an appeal to authority.
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What? Ars and Zdnet are well respected tech sites. Do you dispute that? Or are they less respected now because they reported on a Apple security flaw?
BTW......do you even know what you wrote? Appeal to authority? Geesh.....
 
Iconoclysm said:
Please, take some time out and load up iCloud, you will see that there is absolutely not enough space by default to use it for photo and video storage. For that, you use photostream to sync between devices. It's not impossible for this to have happened through photostream but for those old, deleted, photos...it doesn't make a lot of sense at all.
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I think Jennifer Lawrence and Kate Upton can afford to upgrade their iCloud account. JLaw makes more money eating in a expensive restaurant then you make working 40 hours in a week. It only cost $100 a year for 50GB of storage. I think they can swing the chump change more than me or you.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5879
 
apolloa said:
I would maybe buy the other explanation, if Apple hadn't updated it's security today... and as others have said people own Android phones and mac computers, I do, and that is how they would have been uploaded.
I don't know why the older photos are on there but I imagine the perverts had those in their collection?
The media are being careful with this, but it is now across the news sites and people will read the story with Apple's name clearly at the top. And this is 8 day's before Apple may announce NFC payments with it's new iPhones.

Apple has a problem and will need to make a statement surely, otherwise it's NFC security in the publics mind may not be so secure?
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They already made a statement about "actively investigating".

I don't know about you but I'll still use Apple's NFC for payment even after this leak. Security is a long and tedious process, not a snapshot.

As long as the fruit company stand behind their service, they will compensate me for any financial damages due to their services. It's very clear cut in their case who's going to take care of me. Unlikely to have a case of fingerpointing when there are too many cooks.

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apolloa said:
Well then, Apple has to make a statement to say so doesn't it? Rather than the no comment it's given so far.
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They already made a public statement about actively investigating rather than no comments. Keep up with the news man. We will probably get more juicy info over the next few days.
 
viacavour said:
They already made a statement about "actively investigating".

I don't know about you but I'll still use Apple's NFC for payment even after this leak. Security is a long and tedious process, not a snapshot.

As long as the fruit company stand behind their service, they will compensate me for any financial damages due to their services. It's very clear cut in their case who's going to take care of me. Unlikely to have a case of fingerprinting when there are too many cooks.
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I wasn't talking about you or I mate, I'm talking the general public, this story will be everywhere, and Apple may be announcing NFC, are the public going to trust it as much? They aren't all techies.
And that's not a full statement, if anything it makes them look more guilty.

And they told the BBC news and the Sky News no comment on the allegations... those are big main national news TV stations.
 
X-X said:
So Apple has this GIANT security hole and quietly fixes it TODAY without any statement?

This is unbelievably arrogant.



http://thenextweb.com/apple/2014/09...aw-that-led-to-celebrity-photos-being-leaked/
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So is that all it takes to make a PR disaster?

1) Buy up some nude celeb photos for Bitcoin on the darknet ( That's the source of these photos )

2) Find a bug in iCloud

3) Release purchased photos and blame that bug for the leak of celebrity nude photos, almost all celebs use iPhone so it will seem legit.

4) Knee-jerk reaction by Apple to fix bug makes it seem like that was the actual cause.

Much misdirection here. Too many Apple haters on an Apple forum (suddenly), and so many sensationalized articles when nothing has been confirmed. Something else is going on.
 
viacavour said:
They already made a statement about "actively investigating".
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But they are NOT "actively investigating".

They had a giant security hole and they TODAY quietly fixed it, without any statement about it.

Users on Twitter were able to use the tool from GitHub — which was published two days before being shared to Hacker News — to access their own accounts before it seems Apple patched the hole today. The owner of the tool noticed it was patched at 3:20am PT.
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http://thenextweb.com/apple/2014/09...aw-that-led-to-celebrity-photos-being-leaked/
 
apolloa said:
Well then, Apple has to make a statement to say so doesn't it? Rather than the no comment it's given so far.
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It has given a statement. Read the first post in this thread. :rolleyes:

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X-X said:
But they are NOT "actively investigating".

They had a giant security hole and they TODAY quietly fixed it, without any statement about it.



http://thenextweb.com/apple/2014/09...aw-that-led-to-celebrity-photos-being-leaked/
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No one knows for certain that the two are related.
 
apolloa said:
I wasn't talking about you or I mate, I'm talking the general public, this story will be everywhere, and Apple may be announcing NFC, are the public going to trust it as much? They aren't all techies.
And that's not a full statement, if anything it makes them look more guilty.
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It will only look more guilty to the people who want to see it that way. ^_^

It's just a statement about in-progress investigation. They would want to have enough info to answer follow-up questions too.

Sony's security leak is bigger and confirmed. But people still buy from PS Store. This incident has both iPhone and non-iPhone photos, plus photos from years ago. Clearly, it's not Apple specific, and may not even be iCloud specific.
 
jamezr said:
What? Ars and Zdnet are well respected tech sites. Do you dispute that?
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No, but at least for me it will not stop me from reading what they write critically.

jamezr said:
Or are they less respected now because they reported on a Apple security flaw?
BTW......do you even know what you wrote? Appeal to authority? Geesh.....
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Of course not, but their respect has no bearing on the truth, ok? Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy of the form: 1 + 1 = 3, my dad's a mathematician.
 
X-X said:
But they are NOT "actively investigating".

They had a giant security hole and they TODAY quietly fixed it, without any statement about it.

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2014/09...aw-that-led-to-celebrity-photos-being-leaked/
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It looks like they are actively investigating and also fixing stuff along the way.
I don't know if fixing that security hole is the only thing they did, but I reckon we will hear more.

If I were the celebs, I would buy new hardware (including the router). Set up everything from scratch using new passwords, turn on 2FA where available. Anyone who touched my gadgets before should be banned from using them.
 
jamezr said:
What? Ars and Zdnet are well respected tech sites. Do you dispute that? Or are they less respected now because they reported on a Apple security flaw?
BTW......do you even know what you wrote? Appeal to authority? Geesh.....
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ZDNET is a respected tech site? Maybe to Microsoft fanboys.
 
Rogifan said:
ZDNET is a respected tech site? Maybe to Microsoft fanboys.
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of course...if they report something negative about Apple right? But Ars gets a pass? What about the rest of the internet? They MS fanboys too? Now what about all the Apple sites reporting this? Well.....you know like MacRumors 9to5Mac and so on......
Maybe they should just wait and only report exactly what Apple tells them...word for word.......is that more to your liking?
 
I can't begin to imagine all the compromising stuff Apple might have on their iCloud servers...
 
Iconoclysm said:
Don't write without knowledge...you're simply quoting a link that I actually responded to pages back. You obviously don't understand the intricacies around photostream and haven't been following that some of these are obviously sourced from dropbox.
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Wait, did you even read what I wrote, maybe you just don't want to understand what I wrote or maybe tech is to difficult for you to understand. I didn't quote any link nor care for any link because this info is not something I took from that news site. And you clearly don't want to understand.
 
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