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Apple Addresses Alleged Throttling of iPhones With Degraded Batteries
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Oh so its correct that apple is slowing down old devices
Oh how I cry a little inside, when I think of days gone by, when you could un-clip the rear of the phone, and fit a brand new battery.
Did I mind it was a plastic back?
Honestly no. Not really, as long as it was made well.
Felt nice to the hand, had a little grip.
With the added bonus, if it was scratched, a new back could make it look like new again.
Sighs for the "good old days"
And the sad part it, it COULD be engineered back into phones again.
Even if just the lower 2/3rds of the back could be removed.
Oh for progress working against all of us..... the consumers.....
Did I mind it was a plastic back?
Honestly no. Not really, as long as it was made well.
Felt nice to the hand, had a little grip.
With the added bonus, if it was scratched, a new back could make it look like new again.
Sighs for the "good old days"
And the sad part it, it COULD be engineered back into phones again.
Even if just the lower 2/3rds of the back could be removed.
Oh for progress working against all of us..... the consumers.....
the worst part is that you cant just go to apple and pay $79 to replace the battery. they wont let you unless they think it's defective.
Tesla probably do the same, but Elon can do no wrong in many people’s eyes
"Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light."
A snippet from Dylan Thomas
They could at least slow something down only when the battery is below, lets say, 20% if the goal was to prevent unexpected shutdowns...
what do you mean after a couple of weeks? you go through 500 charge cycles in "a couple of weeks?" yikes. what are you doing with your device?
What I start to dislike about Apple is removing functionality without further warnings.
Update available: "Download now", "Later" or "Details"
and then the problems that arise:
i.e. iTunes: removal of the App section
i.e. Pages, removal of functionality
i.e. Videos App, replaced by a worse program called Apple TV
etc. etc. etc.
I am losing trust in Apple and its update process and I am not updating anymore. I need a device that "Just works", I don't need removed functionality, because of an accidental update and I want to decide if there's a throttling process or not.
Update available: "Download now", "Later" or "Details"
and then the problems that arise:
i.e. iTunes: removal of the App section
i.e. Pages, removal of functionality
i.e. Videos App, replaced by a worse program called Apple TV
etc. etc. etc.
I am losing trust in Apple and its update process and I am not updating anymore. I need a device that "Just works", I don't need removed functionality, because of an accidental update and I want to decide if there's a throttling process or not.
Stop saying degraded or consumed batteries. They are defective and Apple has already done a very small recall on the affected iPhone 6s models.
Apple didn’t do enough groveling and apologizing. Therefore I think there will be additional strongly worded posts.
more like the battery... not the iPhone. sometimes paying for AppleCare is worth it. but youre suing Apple for what... because you bought a $79 battery? so youre going to pay thousands of dollars for a $79 battery? what?
Why are you struggling with this concept?
If the phone shuts down randomly, you're mad.
If you have to replace the battery, you're mad.
If you have to buy a new phone, you're mad.
If Apple adds power management to prevent this, you're mad because a benchmark that artificially triggers a throttle down makes performance less.
Come on over to Android. I had this EXACT problem with my Note, and guess what? No update from Samsung. Phone shut itself off constantly. In fact, in 3 years of ownership, I NEVER received an update from Samsung. Ever. Same OS as it shipped with originally.
You'll say Apple should make better batteries. Well, we aren't there yet. This IS an issue with lithium ion batteries and until that changes, this is the next best solution. At least Apple supports their older devices to give them a better experience. The throttle down in performance is probably not even noticeable unless it's very heavy workload, like a benchmark.
How about stop throttling my device down below half of the speed it's supposed to run?
In their eyes, it's Apple's fault the battery wears out, even though that's the case for EVERY lithium battery in every phone. My Note shut itself down constantly and guess what? Samsung did nothing to stop it because they never update their phones. Never got an update to me OS in 3+ years of ownership and tons of stuff didn't work.
Technically this is OK. What is not OK is
1. Apple was not being transparent about it. So, people would be fooled into upgrading their phones.
2. While it can be used to manage older batteries, and can also be used to hide battery defects.
1. Apple was not being transparent about it. So, people would be fooled into upgrading their phones.
2. While it can be used to manage older batteries, and can also be used to hide battery defects.
Replacement battery from Apple is $80. Filing fees in small claims court are probably $100.
Perfect case for some lawyer to do a class action lawsuit.
Apple how about you provide only security updates on older devices instead of latest iOS?
if you want that control over a device, buy an Android and root it. Apple has never been about that customization. Plus, Apple put the app section back in the iTunes Store.
oh by the way, if you get an Android, you won't have a choice on whether you can update or not because the carrier and the manufacture of the device decides that for you. do your homework before buying. I heard the latest phones weren't getting Oreo or whatever future updates come....
I guess it depends on the rep and the store. I've had no issues having batteries replace and paying the fee.
....are you under the absurd notion that battery chemistry doesn’t degrade over time?
This topic either goes over your head, or you’re being disingenuous.
Reminds me of how Hewlett Packard presented a change to the configuration of our top-selling Inkjet cartridge. There was a straight tube from the fill-port to the ink containment. Refillers were taking advantage with their needle-based kits. Engineering was tasked to implement a bend in the fill tube. Anticipating fall-out, it was carefully decided (verbal meetings only) to first document how this change improved the mfg process. Once done, we put out the new cartridges and all the refill kits became obsolete. Yeah sure Apple's got the consumer's best interest at hear here. Just like HP did - and did successfully later surviving a class action lawsuit by Nukote.
"Last year we released a feature for iPhone 6, iPhone 6s and iPhone SE to smooth out the instantaneous peaks only when needed to prevent the device from unexpectedly shutting down during these conditions. We've now extended that feature to iPhone 7 with iOS 11.2, and plan to add support for other products in the future."
What about the 5S? That phone doesn't have issues like Apple described above?
What about the 5S? That phone doesn't have issues like Apple described above?
Why the slowdown when connected to the charger?
So where are the power management disclaimers from everyone else?
I ask because this is a software management mechanism introduced to deal with battery chemistry decomposition...which is universal.