If you don't trust Apple, then don't lend them the freaking phone. That's not like they can remotely access my phone.
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Apple Addresses iOS 'Backdoor' Concerns by Outlining Legitimate Uses for Targeted Services [Updated]
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Dude, what part of "Settings" are you missing? It's there. Already.
No step up required. Except maybe yours.
Dude, what part of "Settings" are you missing? It's there. Already.
No step up required. Except maybe yours.
actually, no
Those aren't the problem. It's that Apple refuses to open its code to the Government and let it build its own iOS system.
Actually, I am glad that Apple keeps this capability to itself.
Those aren't the problem. It's that Apple refuses to open its code to the Government and let it build its own iOS system.
Actually, I am glad that Apple keeps this capability to itself.
I always love how everyone always freaks out about these kind of things... OMG Apple may be back-dooring my phone and they may know that I spend way too much time playing Monopoly slots, sent a few texts, made a few phone calls, allegedly may have looked at some pron, and that I read a lot of MacRumors!!!
Dude, there is no setting to disable diagnostics completely. The setting you're referring to, it is for disabling the sending of diagnostic info to Apple. That does not prevent the info from being created and stored on the device without encryption, those services are running all the time by default on everyone's iOS device even if they have the option disabled.
There's also no way to turn on your car without the OBDII diags running. Should you not drive your car?
OBDII isn't storing all the gps locations, storing all of my email account info, wireless keys, twitter account information, photos, and deleted files that's recoverable.
None of the info in OBDII is personal.
Speaking of OBDII, from wikipedia:
Less information being created by the diagnostics tool, the better for everybody. Apple's leaking more information than it needs to and by default.
No services on the planet should be revealing more diagnostic information than needed and not by default.
It's there, and like Apple said it can only be accessed with your permission.
It's up to each person if you believe them or not. Say something goes haywire with your phone tomorrow and your phone is not collecting data. You take it to the apple store and they tell you, 'sorry there is nothing we can do, it can't be reproduced nor are they any diagnostic information for us to look at, bye now' then you walk out and 2 mins later it goes nuts.
Then your going to be seeing post about Apple's bad customer service
The second one sounds like it could be a potential issue, "with user permission", what does that mean? If they just say "hey can I check out your data" or throught passcodes? If it's the first one, then It is a legit problem.
That would be nuts!
So how are devleoper suppose to better their apps and as far as that go how is apple suppose to better their systems? Some of us really want to see iOS get even better which is why we run beats and submit big reports to Apple.
You have a mighty load of self importance here don't you. There is nothing a rational person would put on an iPhone that isn't already sitting on hundreds of computers at various business that people deal with.
So how are devleoper suppose to better their apps and as far as that go how is apple suppose to better their systems? Some of us really want to see iOS get even better which is why we run beats and submit big reports to Apple.
Realistically just how much info can be house on an iPhone? The things don't have much storage to begin with. You reveal far more personal information every time you go online and buy Something.
You have a mighty load of self importance here don't you. There is nothing a rational person would put on an iPhone that isn't already sitting on hundreds of computers at various business that people deal with.
Says who? This is exactly what the security researcher is pointing out in his research, these services are storing these information. He was able to extract these information from his device.
Remember, Apple did in the past leaked private information on iOS devices via GPS locations and they fixed it later on by encrypting the database. That's what researcher is asking for, to encrypt these data being generated by the services and/or disable the services from running.
Apple has not denied these services are not storing these info, they're focusing on saying the information does not leave the device but Apple never said the information is not being stored.
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Textual information is highly compressible, you can definitely compress a lot of information.
So, that's an excuse not to encrypt the data nor prevent it from being stored?
Wow, so you're absolutely okay with everybody leaking information onto every system you're using?
Of course it's being stored. iOS is UNIX, it has a full console log from the kernel and system. Plug your iPhone into Apple configurator and you can watch it live right now.
If you want to use a phone that doesn't store logs, you won't be able to use any phone on the market.
I can't believe they addressed this. I didn't expect them too. Makes sense what they say, and I'm sure someone will confirm it.
Makes you wonder, are they reading macrumors?
That's why I like apple. The spotlight is on them all the time. Things like this don't just go unnoticed. Expectations are high of apple. They can't blame things on a different phone manufacturer or faulty insecure carrier software.
Can't wait for Yosemite and ios 8 release. I have been longing the ability to answer calls and text non/ iphone users from iMessages forever.
Makes you wonder, are they reading macrumors?
That's why I like apple. The spotlight is on them all the time. Things like this don't just go unnoticed. Expectations are high of apple. They can't blame things on a different phone manufacturer or faulty insecure carrier software.
Can't wait for Yosemite and ios 8 release. I have been longing the ability to answer calls and text non/ iphone users from iMessages forever.
Apple isn't the problem. What if a hacker uses one of those backdoors to take my bank account info or some passwords?
LOL didn't read.
1. com.apple.mobile.pcapd
pcapd supports diagnostic packet capture from an iOS device to a trusted computer
2. com.apple.mobile.file_relay
file_relay supports limited copying of diagnostic data from a device.
3. com.apple.mobile.house_arrest
house_arrest is used by iTunes to transfer documents to and from an iOS device
Those are only Apple's legitimate uses for it, which really have nothing to do with the security flaws themselves. According to the previous article on this,
Zdziarski says what I'd say about this. It doesn't matter what Apple plans to do with these. They shouldn't be on my phone regardless.
Why, are you a drug dealer?
Why is your ego so big?
I do not get it. Personally I do not care what Apple does. But I wonder why is your fantasy in your head? I am just curious?
I just wonder why people like you are so dramatic with non senses.
It is just to call the attention trying to find arguments going the other way? senseless discussions? again... ego?
Apple won't pay attention to your request, what are you going to do for real? Start a class action lawsuit? Buy another phone? or are you going to keep using your iPhone?
I mean, be 100% realistic, what are you going to do? Apple will not change tomorrow, what are you going to do?
His phone probably has to run a custom-made version of a Linux OS with security features. iOS isn't open-source.
Call me an Apple fanboy or whatever, But I 100% trust Apple.
I know Steve Jobs cared 100% about this company. The man stopped working only when it was physically impossible for him to go to work. I heard he even was talking about the iPhone 5 a day before he died to Tim Cook.
I know I know I shouldn't compare Steve to Tim. But I also believe Tim cares just as much as Steve did about Apple. They are honest and truly care about its products.
Im lovin there transparency to prove these Apple bashers wrong!
No offense, but that sounds naive.
Call me a cynic, but I don't always believe everything when a corporation "explains" the reasons for something such as this.
Apple isn't a family member (you don't need to support them as though they were). You can't just take their word for what it is. Heck you can't even do that with family sometimes.
Apple (as well Google/MS/etc) is spying on you in some way. Heck they have your CC number, contacts, emails, etc.
If you think otherwise...
You seem surprised...
I want security as much as the next person. I want to make sure my personal stuff is secure. I understand all of this.
But I myself have pretty much just "accepted" (within reason of course, and all of these things, IMO, seem to be within reason to me) that going online or using any device connected to the internet leads to risks. So I take some precautions in always making sure I am watching my personal accounts (like banking information) and all of that. I understand that going online could lead to something happening from a back door in the software. This being on a Windows computer, a Mac, Android or iOS.
I want to be 100% secure online and have my security guaranteed but I also understand that it just is not going to be possible. One reason is because everything can and will be hacked at some point. I understand it is pretty much impossible to develop anything that is unhackable.
Again, I want security as much as the next person but I am not going to live my life worrying that someone is "looking at me" or whatever. I just take my normal precautions on my personal data and live my life. If something happens I will deal it
But until I start reading and hearing about every single iOS device being hacked into and everyone who has an iOS device personal data and banking information being stolen then I'm not going to be afraid to go online.
As a programmer, all of these services sound legit to me. So I am going to go continue living my normal life.
But I myself have pretty much just "accepted" (within reason of course, and all of these things, IMO, seem to be within reason to me) that going online or using any device connected to the internet leads to risks. So I take some precautions in always making sure I am watching my personal accounts (like banking information) and all of that. I understand that going online could lead to something happening from a back door in the software. This being on a Windows computer, a Mac, Android or iOS.
I want to be 100% secure online and have my security guaranteed but I also understand that it just is not going to be possible. One reason is because everything can and will be hacked at some point. I understand it is pretty much impossible to develop anything that is unhackable.
Again, I want security as much as the next person but I am not going to live my life worrying that someone is "looking at me" or whatever. I just take my normal precautions on my personal data and live my life. If something happens I will deal it
But until I start reading and hearing about every single iOS device being hacked into and everyone who has an iOS device personal data and banking information being stolen then I'm not going to be afraid to go online.
As a programmer, all of these services sound legit to me. So I am going to go continue living my normal life.
It's not even a matter of trust. Security flaws have been discovered in iOS, and they have to be fixed. Apple explaining that they don't exploit the backdoors doesn't help anything, even if they're honest.