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As expected, Apple today updated its vintage products list with eight more MacBook, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and iMac models released in 2015 and 2016.

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Notably, the first MacBook Pro models with the Touch Bar are now classified as vintage. Apple introduced the Touch Bar in October 2016 as part of a complete redesign of the MacBook Pro. Apple has since removed the Touch Bar from higher-end MacBook Pro models, but it is still available on the new 13-inch MacBook Pro with the M2 chip.

The full list of Macs that became vintage at the end of July:
  • MacBook (12-inch, Early 2016)
  • MacBook Air (13-inch, Early 2015)
  • MacBook Pro (13-inch, Early 2015)
  • MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2016, Two Thunderbolt Ports)
  • MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2016, Four Thunderbolt Ports)
  • MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2016)
  • iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2015)
  • iMac (27-inch, Retina 5K, Late 2015)
9.7-inch iPad Pro models released in 2016 are now vintage as well.

A device becomes vintage once five years have passed since Apple last distributed the device for sale. Vintage products are typically ineligible for repairs at Apple Stores and Apple Authorized Service Providers, unless spare parts remain available.

Article Link: Apple Adds Eight More Macs to Vintage Products List
 

FocusAndEarnIt

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I still have AppleCare+ on my 2015 15” MBP. Bought as a refurbished model in 2018, and then was given the option to buy AppleCare+ per year. This must be vintage if 2016 is now vintage… what happens if I spill milk on this thing?
 

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I still have AppleCare+ on my 2015 15” MBP. Bought as a refurbished model in 2018, and then was given the option to buy AppleCare+ per year. This must be vintage if 2016 is now vintage… what happens if I spill milk on this thing?
I don't see that one on there. Maybe I'm blind? LOL

 

russell_314

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Waiting for the day Apple just says every remaining Intel device to finally cut the cord.
It will be a long time because Apple supports their products for a long time. What's crazy is the 2014 Mac mini hasn't made the list yet. I think they go by when it was last sold so maybe they kept that one all the up till the 2018 mini came out.
 

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I still have AppleCare+ on my 2015 15” MBP. Bought as a refurbished model in 2018, and then was given the option to buy AppleCare+ per year. This must be vintage if 2016 is now vintage… what happens if I spill milk on this thing?
As long as they can get the part, they'll cover it as long as you have AC+. They keep parts in reserve for just your circumstance. I wouldn't worry, except that you're losing OS Support soon.
 

HVDynamo

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It will be a long time because Apple supports their products for a long time. What's crazy is the 2014 Mac mini hasn't made the list yet. I think they go by when it was last sold so maybe they kept that one all the up till the 2018 mini came out.
When Apple switched from PowerPC to Intel, they axed the powerPC stuff way too quickly. I bought a Dual G5 in January 2005, they announced the Intel switch that summer. OS X Snow Leopard shipped in 2009 which was Intel Only.
 

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When Apple switched from PowerPC to Intel, they axed the powerPC stuff way too quickly. I bought a Dual G5 in January 2005, they announced the Intel switch that summer. OS X Snow Leopard shipped in 2009 which was Intel Only.
That's why I think Ventura or the next one is EOL for new OS on Intels. It's not unprecedented and I am fine with it.
 

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When Apple switched from PowerPC to Intel, they axed the powerPC stuff way too quickly. I bought a Dual G5 in January 2005, they announced the Intel switch that summer. OS X Snow Leopard shipped in 2009 which was Intel Only.
I get what you mean but I think that's different than the Vintage/ Obsolete list. It's more of a hardware support thing. It's never good if you buy something right as a major change is happening. It would be like buying a Mac Pro now. If I remember right Snow Leopard was just some slight improvements and fixes. I upgraded my Intel MacBook Pro and I remember the wallpapers. It seems like most OS updates are that. Maybe except Catalina which was a major change.

Even so it's still going to work. I see people saying should I get a new ___ and I'm thinking well does your old ___ still work fine? If yes and you're asking as in it's not just spare change to you then no keep what you have
 

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That's why I think Ventura or the next one is EOL for new OS on Intels. It's not unprecedented and I am fine with it.
It's possible that Apple may keep compatibility but just some features will only be available on hardware that supports it. This way it makes people happy that they have the new shiny OS but maybe not so happy they can't do the new shiny thing. Look at iPad OS with M1. With a major change like this it's not easy to make everything work.
 
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That's why I think Ventura or the next one is EOL for new OS on Intels. It's not unprecedented and I am fine with it.
I think Intel will get more than that. Back when Snow Leopard launched there was 2-3 years between OS releases. I kind of miss those times honestly. The yearly OS updates just feel like too much; They end up abandoning a version before it truly gets stable. I think the last intel machines sold will at least get 4 years of updates. But with how well old computers hold up for basic tasks, it's just wasteful to not keep the Operating System current for longer. I'm still rocking my mid 2012 cMBP on Catalina and am looking at picking up an M2 Pro MBP when they launch, but even my old MBP is still plenty fast for basic web browsing and youtube and whatnot. It would be a great hand me down to my parents, except it will stop getting most security updates this fall. That said, that machine has had a good run overall, but some of these newer intel machines are going to get scrapped way too soon in my opinion.
 

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I hate seeing 2015 Macbooks on the list. Those were the last ones that were made before they axed the ports and they're still quite popular in the used market.
Well maybe it'll drive the used price down and you can get one. I hate to say it but unless you're on a tight budget any Mac with Intel isn't the best choice. The exception would be if you want to run Windows on it.
 
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I think Intel will get more than that. Back when Snow Leopard launched there was 2-3 years between OS releases. I kind of miss those times honestly. The yearly OS updates just feel like too much; They end up abandoning a version before it truly gets stable. I think the last intel machines sold will at least get 4 years of updates. But with how well old computers hold up for basic tasks, it's just wasteful to not keep the Operating System current for longer. I'm still rocking my mid 2012 cMBP on Catalina and am looking at picking up an M2 Pro MBP when they launch, but even my old MBP is still plenty fast for basic web browsing and youtube and whatnot. It would be a great hand me down to my parents, except it will stop getting most security updates this fall. That said, that machine has had a good run overall, but some of these newer intel machines are going to get scrapped way too soon in my opinion.
Try Big Sur on it. It will get updates a year longer and IMO works much smoother than 10.15. I hope that Intel Macs do get more updates but I bet the clock is ticking.
 

Mr. Dee

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The original PowerBook G4 Titanium got operating system support up Tiger (5 years), while the late 2002 model was technically 8 years.

But, its been a standard 5 to 7 years of support. 2016 is almost 7 years ago. Thats pretty long support. I am sure a 2016 MacBook Pro is not gonna suddenly stop working. Apple makes some solid machines and we see it over years with the PowerBooks and even early MacBooks still in use as vintage machines.

I encourage those who still have their 2016 models hold on to them because they are gonna because collectors items.
 

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I think Intel will get more than that. Back when Snow Leopard launched there was 2-3 years between OS releases. I kind of miss those times honestly. The yearly OS updates just feel like too much; They end up abandoning a version before it truly gets stable. I think the last intel machines sold will at least get 4 years of updates. But with how well old computers hold up for basic tasks, it's just wasteful to not keep the Operating System current for longer. I'm still rocking my mid 2012 cMBP on Catalina and am looking at picking up an M2 Pro MBP when they launch, but even my old MBP is still plenty fast for basic web browsing and youtube and whatnot. It would be a great hand me down to my parents, except it will stop getting most security updates this fall. That said, that machine has had a good run overall, but some of these newer intel machines are going to get scrapped way too soon in my opinion.
I know Google was working on a version of ChromeOS that would work on older MacBooks. This could give it new life and still be secure. Of course Google has the attention span of a toddler so who knows maybe tomorrow they won't have it.
 
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