i literally get such a disgusted distaste for the "For You" section that my brain goes "nope" whenever i open that list of endless clutter
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Apple Adds New 'Guided Tours' Video Section to Apple Music Site
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You make some good points, but there are some real horror stories about people that signed up for their service and their libraries were deleted.. sure, I have it all on other devices, but it seems like a PIA to fix.
Maybe if they get the bugs worked out
I agree. I found my way around Apple Music pretty quickly.
I did try out Spotify to see which I preferred, but I didn't like Spotify. I found its UI to be not logical at all and struggled with it, where usually I'm pretty quick at finding my way around things. I could have done with a guide like this for Spotify too be honest
I think the service is quite ok. If you try browsing around and clicking some things, you get used to it and it's pretty straightforward.
But... I was also victim to the local iTunes library mess. Still today, when I upload new local songs, they are sometimes tagged as Apple Music instead of iTunes Match. I called Apple Support but they didn't know what was going on and finally claimed it's working the way it's supposed. Which is not true because if i delete those files, I get DRM-versions back. For music I own!
But... I was also victim to the local iTunes library mess. Still today, when I upload new local songs, they are sometimes tagged as Apple Music instead of iTunes Match. I called Apple Support but they didn't know what was going on and finally claimed it's working the way it's supposed. Which is not true because if i delete those files, I get DRM-versions back. For music I own!
Oh no I totally agree. The software still has some bugs, the uploading of your own songs and messing with your personal music is my only issue with the service. I was just speaking in generalities as far as streaming in general. I'm staying with Google until Apple cleans up the service and keeps your personal collection off limits and accurately uploads the right material.
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Do they have a "guided tour" for working around all the darn bugs? Like when you add an album to your collection, only to find it wasn't added to your collection? Or like when you add a song to a playlist, only to find it wasn't added to a playlist, and so on?
How about a walk through on how to NOT nuke your songs synced to your phone so you don't have to struggle downloading 10gb or so (my case) over and over again when wifi syncing fails endlessly?
Anyway, /end rant, I'm a faithful subscriber after Wednesday anyway!
How about a walk through on how to NOT nuke your songs synced to your phone so you don't have to struggle downloading 10gb or so (my case) over and over again when wifi syncing fails endlessly?
Anyway, /end rant, I'm a faithful subscriber after Wednesday anyway!
Those videos are very cool. I'm a diehard iTunes Match subscriber with a large library so I'm not planning to renew beyond the trial period anyway, but following along with those videos really impressed me with a lot of the cool stuff Apple Music can do. If I was much younger without a lifetime of collected music sitting on my computer already and not much interest in new artists, I'd be all over that.
May be good for 'new' users, or older ones just wanting a refresher course
However, waiting almost till the end of a trial period then putting these up, is not really how i would have done it.
I think we needed these videos after the keynote, NOT when the trial almost ends.
Although plenty of videos on youtube, still would have been good to see these from Apple a bit earlier.
However, waiting almost till the end of a trial period then putting these up, is not really how i would have done it.
I think we needed these videos after the keynote, NOT when the trial almost ends.
Although plenty of videos on youtube, still would have been good to see these from Apple a bit earlier.
It's a mess because it makes it hard to distinguish between the stuff I owned, vs. downloaded - even the few times I even figured out how to download something. It replaces non-drm'ed files with drm ones and
Amazon Prime is a heck of a lot more straight forward to use than Apple Music. You can't even dispute that. If you want to talk about "features," or "bugs," that's a totally different conversation and Apple Music fails in those departments as well.
Agree. Some good points, but the problem is Apple Music doesn't work well with existing libraries. It'll either replace your music with DRM subscription music, or it'll break up playlists, or put a "million" duplicates on your library. I had the service for a day and it took me weeks to fix the disaster it caused - I went from have 1,500 playlists to 4,000 because for some reason it decided triplecated (is that a word?) every playlist that I had and willy-nilly decided to break up my original list and add tracks that I never picked. It was a complete mess.
Messing with your personal library is a pretty BIG issue.
Yes, but I don't understand the point. Other than all of their recent software has been awful messes. I had an Apple Watch for a week and returned it because I couldn't even get it to display the time on a consistent basis. I'm hoping next year when the new watch comes out and further improvements to the software will make it more usable.
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I disagree. Amazon Prime (on the web site) is irritatingly difficult to figure out. I don't have as much of an issue with the app - it's okay, but the web interface is horrible - brings up non-prime music all the time. The app does too, but it doesn't seem as often.
One of the issues I have with Amazon Prime is that it doesn't allow me to play music I searched for without forcing me to put it into my library. Hitting 'play' will just give me a 10-30 second preview of the song. What? That's ridiculous if I'm a prime customer. Get that out of the interface. Just play the whole song! With Apple Music I can just play the whole song after I find it. There is no preview option, or there is nothing forcing me to place it in my library just to listen to it.
Amazon Prime doesn't have music videos like Apple Music does. (Or I haven't found them).
Give me some real situations where Amazon Prime is better - not just generalities. I'd like to understand, really, why it's better to you.
With that said, I'll probably be using Amazon Prime Music until my Amazon Prime membership ends, as it's 'free' for me instead of paying $10/month for Apple Music.
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This.
That's my situation exactly - an iTunes Match subscriber, with a 13-year old, carefully curated and maintained library, that I don't want iCloud Music Library messing with(as it already tried to do!).
Apple Music isn't meant for us, really.
I'm also with Google Music on the intro plan of 7.99. I can't decide if Apple Music is worth the extra $2 or not.
For the people saying that they have their own collection and AM isn't worth it, well AM is not a product targeted at you. I used to think that way, but once I got an all you can listen to sub to something I have never looked back. I discover more and listen to more diverse music than I ever have now.
The problem with the Apple Music app is that they packed so much functionality into a V1 product. I've been using it the entire trial and am still finding hidden functionality. On one hand, it is great there is so much there. On the other, discoverability is hard. It definitely would have been easier if they had a brand new app instead of shoving it into the existing music app.
Same here
And I'll add another one. I created a 20 songs playlist through my iPad, and then deleted another non-Apple music playlist.
Result: It worked fine on the mac, but on my iphone... The new playlist just didn't appear, and whenever i tried accessing the old one (which was still there!) the app kept crashing.
Thank god it corrected itself with some time (3 weeks).
Apple Music sucks, big time.
And I'm really annoyed, as if it worked properly, I'd love to use such an integrated service: own collection with subscription collection. Note the OWN COLLECTION bit, as that's what Apple seem to think they can get their grubby hands on now...
It completely screwed my library right up (and gazillions of other users, from reading a LOT of forums trying to find solutions to get it to work; none did!), so much so I had to turn it off and restore from backup.
Metadata completely deleted, artwork deleted, track audio different to track name, even Match users having their OWNED ripped music being matched to Apple Music DRM'd catalogue instead of iTunes Match DRM-free catalogue (under "iCloud Status" they should have been "Matched" or "Uploaded", not "Apple Music"!).
If this is Apple's 'solution' to future media management, then count me out, for sure.
Cancelled accordingly.
Why oh why, did Apple not SANDBOX users own data and metadata (following their very own sandboxed apps philosophy!), instead of thinking their software teams could make decisions on behalf of users who do not want them to – especially when such software entirely cocks it up!
Complete and utter shambles. Seemingly like a lot of Apple's crap software and cloud offerings the last few years. Hardware good, software and services bad.
And I'm really annoyed, as if it worked properly, I'd love to use such an integrated service: own collection with subscription collection. Note the OWN COLLECTION bit, as that's what Apple seem to think they can get their grubby hands on now...
It completely screwed my library right up (and gazillions of other users, from reading a LOT of forums trying to find solutions to get it to work; none did!), so much so I had to turn it off and restore from backup.
Metadata completely deleted, artwork deleted, track audio different to track name, even Match users having their OWNED ripped music being matched to Apple Music DRM'd catalogue instead of iTunes Match DRM-free catalogue (under "iCloud Status" they should have been "Matched" or "Uploaded", not "Apple Music"!).
If this is Apple's 'solution' to future media management, then count me out, for sure.
Cancelled accordingly.
Why oh why, did Apple not SANDBOX users own data and metadata (following their very own sandboxed apps philosophy!), instead of thinking their software teams could make decisions on behalf of users who do not want them to – especially when such software entirely cocks it up!
Complete and utter shambles. Seemingly like a lot of Apple's crap software and cloud offerings the last few years. Hardware good, software and services bad.
Same here: I had read enough before and was already very alarmed. And after setting up a new iPhone 6 under iOS 9, it took me exactly 2 days to relegate Apple Music to the phone's "Junk" folder (alongside Health, Find My Friends, etc.)
Why this? Because despite the sub-par interface, I was ready to give Apple Music a try; however, even without any of my music from iTunes (mostly ripped from old CDs) on the phone, the app did what it wanted: When the switch for "Only offline music" was ON, instead of telling me that there was no music on the phone, the app insisted on showing me the handful of songs I had actually bought in the iTunes store (I mostly buy MP3s from Amazon). WTF?!! And even IF I wanted this - I do have multiple Apple (i.e., iTunes store) IDs (FR, CH, DE & US); how is the app supposed to handle this?
I was also p***ed to see myself "halfway" signed in into the Apple Music online mess automatically in the first place, after the update to iOS 9, because (a) I hadn't asked for it, and (b) it activated some features tracking my usage patterns (such as following what the app believes to be my favored artists). Not cool! At least, with the "Apple Music kill switch" in Settings and a sign-out in the profile section of the app you seem to be able to stop all of this...
I think the main problem is that Apple doesn't know what they're doing with the Apple Music app: a player of on-board (or iTunes-matched) music and a streaming/radio player ARE different beasts (and throwing in all the "blog-type" features makes matters even more convoluted...). Right now, I'm only interested in the former (and Ecoute player seems so far like 1 EUR well spent [Thanks for the tip!]). And once I'm interested in the latter, I'll go to Spotify, who's a specialist for streaming and has a world-wide presence with only 1 user account (and caters more to EU ears anyway, IMHO).