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Apple Adds New Samsung Products to Infringement Lawsuit, Strengthens Assertions

I think Apple is listing all possible copies Samsung has made regardless of how close to the iphone for a couple of reasons. First is to make a point about the UI being similar. That isn't enough for a case but when the overall physical design is considered, the UI argument is already in place. Some models will get thrown out but the point is made.

The one model with the hide away keyboard looks just like an iphone with that feature tacked on. I remember at one point that was a rumor for the next iphone. The leaks are probably coming from people contracted to make iOS devices and Samsung's copies.
 
"Competition encourages better products!"

Don't take that route. Apple WON by creating iPhone. I think it'd be awesome if they had patented the idea of touchscreen swiping in general so NO ONE could make a phone with that idea. Come up with something else. The moment iPhone hit, it needs to be the only phone with that sort of input system for 17 years.

Old school.

Sadly, I'm serious, and I'd love to see that even at my own expense. Too much copying going on these days. "Oh they're making money like this! I'm gonna do it too!". I wish there was some way to prevent that from ever happening.
 
joshuarayer said:
So the complaint is that Samsung copied a grid layout of the phones applications with a section at the bottom for 4 always on-screen apps and a rounded-corner shaped phone? Im pretty sure Palm beat Apple a long time ago to the grid-based app layout with the Palm OS 1 and the Palm Pilot 1000 in the mid 1990's and they even had 4 buttons that linked to apps at the bottom of the screen. So how about you think before you blindly stick behind Apples every move.
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You dropped your stylus.
 
Apple are so desperate to try and stop the power of Google. They should have realised they will never stop Android. Just go back to stealing ideas from other smartphones to put in your terrible ios. You quite good at stealing.
 
swagi said:
Now let's see what would happen, if Nokia would sue the hell out of Apple. They clearly have a case, because you should actually look what they trademarked as Navi (TM)-Key.
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Umm....that happened. And they settled. Remember?
 
wikus said:
How do you guys, particularly the fanboys, feel about Apple copying others?
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I asked this on the last page - the post got negative feedback. Hard to take for some hey?

The whole suit is ridiculous. Just a way of boosting media coverage for both companies.
 
wikus said:
How do you guys, particularly the fanboys, feel about Apple copying others?
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Apple has a strong case against Samsung.

Now RIM made a tablet that has features that distinguish it from the ipad for instance. But unfortunately their stock is down 20% today. I guess Apple's overall user experience and feel is what people want. Maybe Samsung understood that and that is why they so blatantly copied Apple.

So what do you think of Apple creating whole new markets where all the competition follows suit?

Hey the Android fanboys are here. You could tell by all the negative ratings that were suddenly appearing.
 
macphoria said:
If this is hardware issue, I do see iPhone resemblance in Samsung hardware and I believe Apple has valid case.

But looking at the software, how much can Apple hold Samsung liable since Samsung device uses Android software which isn't entirely Samsung's product?

Can someone shed some light on this?
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It is about the layer that Samsung put 'on top' of the Android UI - that layer that is supposed to look like iOS. This layer (look&feel) is 100% Samsung.
 
ten-oak-druid said:
Apple has a strong case against Samsung.

Now RIM made a tablet that has features that distinguish it from the ipad for instance. But unfortunately their stock is down 20% today. I guess Apple's overall user experience and feel is what people want. Maybe Samsung understood that and that is why they so blatantly copied Apple.

So what do you think of Apple creating whole new markets where all the competition follows suit?

Hey the Android fanboys are here. You could tell by all the negative ratings that were suddenly appearing.
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haha, ten-oak-druid, you are not answering the question from wikus. So how do you feel about apple copying others?
 
wikus said:
How do you guys, particularly the fanboys, feel about Apple copying others?
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Apple's been ripped off consistently, regularly, blatantly since June 2007, and they've been rather kind about it up until recently.

Fair play by Apple. Karma's a bitch.
 
ten-oak-druid said:
Apple has a strong case against Samsung.

Now RIM made a tablet that has features that distinguish it from the ipad for instance. But unfortunately their stock is down 20% today. I guess Apple's overall user experience and feel is what people want. Maybe Samsung understood that and that is why they so blatantly copied Apple.

So what do you think of Apple creating whole new markets where all the competition follows suit?

Hey the Android fanboys are here. You could tell by all the negative ratings that were suddenly appearing.
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So in essence, you don't care if Apple copies any other company.
 
Seems allot of companies are ripping each other off. Apple ripping off nokia, samsung supposedly ripping off apple, etc.. Going to get even bigger when whoever buys nortel patents will start demanding money. Gets funnier every day.
 
rosalindavenue said:
Patent suits are my least favorite tech topic. Look and feel patents are particularly silly. Apple just paid Nokia a ridiculous amount of money for things that should never have been patentable; now they are suing Sammy for things that should not have been patentable.

Regarding the Android prototype pictured above: I had this Sony Clie 10 years ago:

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I used to hold it up to my ear and think: Hmm, if only this were a phone with internet access-- a touch dialpad and I could make calls and browse the web, plus all the palm apps (or whatever they were called back then).

The idea should not have been patentable. Period.
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Hmm, I don't remember that those had a touch screen and that you controlled the UI by using your finger on the screen .... seems I'm getting old and my memory is failing me
 
*LTD* said:
Apple's been ripped off consistently, regularly, blatantly since June 2007, and they've been rather kind about it up until recently.

Fair play by Apple. Karma's a bitch.
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I would appreciate it if YOU of specifically refrained from responding to questions that required an unbiased, rational and logical thought.
 
ssk2 said:
God I love fanboys....

Apple use an identical notification system to Android? No problem.
Apple use a identical messaging system to RIM? Excellent.

Samsung use a green phone icon to represent the phone app? OMGGGGZZ LAW SUIT!!!?!1

Do you not see the irony?

This topic has been done to death and is clearly not as simple as the fanboys make out. This is clear by the fact that the case(s) continue to rumble on, with no sign of resolution.
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You reaaaally don't see the bigger picture here do you? :rolleyes:
 
dba7dba said:
haha, ten-oak-druid, you are not answering the question from wikus. So how do you feel about apple copying others?
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How do you android fanboys feel about being so resentful that others prefer iOS, that you need to seek us out and tell us we are wrong?

I think there is some deep seeded need in all of you to make everyone conform to your view. I don't know what the underlying issue is but I hope you get help.
 
ten-oak-druid said:
Apple has a strong case against Samsung.

So what do you think of Apple creating whole new markets where all the competition follows suit?
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Apple doesn't have a strong case. Just because Apple fans believe they do, doesn't make it a fact. Apple fans will think that Apple has a strong case, while Samsung fans will believe otherwise. We don't know all ins and outs of the case. Apple is only accusing right now. A strong case is when the judge takes these accusations and accepts them as evidence in the case.

And Apple didn't create anything new. They took upon the idea of something that was done before and only improved it to their liking. Stop believing that Apple created something that was not done before.

And by your belief that Apple did create new market, this is how business is done. Someone creates something, others follows to create healthy competition, to innovate and make US (the consumers) better off. If you think the world would be better off with only one company in the market, well.. you should really take some economics or business classes.

On a personal level, I don't really care who wins this. This is business and this is how all companies do it (every single one). This will be settled behind closed doors like all other major cases involving major companies. Cases like that never go to actual trial.

And before you call me an Android fanboy, I should stop you. I am not. I have an android tablet, I have a MacBook Pro, a Nokia N900 and a windows desktop PC. I use things that I actually find useful.
 
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