Apple Again Encouraging Mac Developers to Sign Up for Developer ID Ahead of OS X Mountain Lion

[KnightWRX]

How about downloaded binaries not compiled from source, it would make sense to not have to sign code you compile your self. After all you know where that came from. In the end Gatekeeper is there to add trust to binaries from someone else. There are some solid arguments why certificates is a good strategy for Apple on this blog (made before Gatekeeper was announced). http://blog.wilshipley.com/2011/11/real-security-in-mac-os-x-requires.html

You're clearly arguing without even reading my post : downloaded and unsigned binaries, executed through normal exec() like bash does, launch without any problems.

It seems to only apply to Cocoa built binaries launched in the Cocoa runtime. Stop arguing and go try it. You always do this, can't ever accept that maybe, just maybe, you might not be understanding the issues being discussed, same as in the programming forum when you argued with both me and chown33 for pages...

 

[pdjudd]

Did I miss the link you posted where they stated explicitly that the MAS is not going to be the only method to get apps?

Here

It’s right here on camera from Steve’s mouth.

ETA: Of course I’ll bet that your going to discount that by saying that Apple can change its mind like it’s done it the past.

 

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Here

It’s right here on camera from Steve’s mouth.

ETA: Of course I’ll bet that your going to discount that by saying that Apple can change its mind like it’s done it the past.

Not a very exact statement. At the time he said it you could discover iPhone apps in Chomp but you still had to install them using the App Store.
Then again maybe I missed what you were referencing since it is a 90 minute video.

 

[pdjudd]

Not a very exact statement. At the time he said it you could discover iPhone apps in Chomp but you still had to install them using the App Store.
Then again maybe I missed what you were referencing since it is a 90 minute video.

The video has nothing to do with chomp - it should be the video introducing Lion and the App store. Jobs basically said "it won't be the only place for apps"

 

[milo]

Well, the publicly available info shows you'll be just fine, because the Gatekeeper options from a user standpoint are:

1. Signed code only!
2. Ask before allowing unsigned code.
3. Allow any signed or unsigned code without asking.

Good post but one correction, the user options are actually:

1 App store only
2 App store or signed code (default pref)
3 run anything without asking

In the case of 1 or 2, it doesn't ask, it pops up a box saying why it can't be run. It's possible to run apps without changing the security setting by right clicking (or option clicking) and selecting Open.

 

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The video has nothing to do with chomp - it should be the video introducing Lion and the App store. Jobs basically said "it won't be the only place for apps"

He said discover not install. If he meant installation it would be a bit strange to talk about the iOS app store being the best place to discover iOS apps because it is the only place you are allowed to install apps from.

 

[pdjudd]

He said discover not install. If he meant installation it would be a bit strange to talk about the iOS app store being the best place to discover iOS apps because it is the only place you are allowed to install apps from.

He doesn't have to say install. He is saying it won't be the only place. Clearly that means other sources.

And stop talking about the iOS App store. That has nothing to do with this subject whatsoever.

 

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He doesn't have to say install. He is saying it won't be the only place. Clearly that means other sources.

And stop talking about the iOS App store. That has nothing to do with this subject whatsoever.

I reference the iOS store because the only portions of the 90 minute video that reference the Mac Store compare it to the iOS store.

 

[pdjudd]

I reference the iOS store because the only portions of the 90 minute video that reference the Mac Store compare it to the iOS store.

Only on a marketing level. Not a technical level.

 

[tbrinkma]

Good post but one correction, the user options are actually:

1 App store only
2 App store or signed code (default pref)
3 run anything without asking

In the case of 1 or 2, it doesn't ask, it pops up a box saying why it can't be run. It's possible to run apps without changing the security setting by right clicking (or option clicking) and selecting Open.

Yeah, I misremembered the second option. I would have sworn, though, that I'd seen screenshots of a dialog asking if you want to run an unsigned app. Is it something that pops up when you use the right-click method, or am I just misremembering that, too?

 

[milo]

Is it something that pops up when you use the right-click method

Yes. Trying to open the app gives the box saying you can't do it, opening from right click/control click brings up a similar box but with the extra OPEN button added.