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I do not think anyone has a problem with that but you have to tell the customer you are doing it. That is where Apple went wrong. They tried to hide it instead of being open about it.

Bingo. The other part is that it's just an excuse!!! Apple didn't tie the throttling with battery health... they just throttled all iPhone 6's (even if you'd just had your battery replaced). As soon as you updated to [insert version of iOS], you got throttled.

I'm still using my iPhone 6 (bought at launch), it works superbly and Apple has provided excellent service. If I'm frank... the point of litigation is to right a wrong, not for you to become rich because of a wrong. I get $0 as an international customer but they fixed the throttling years ago by giving me the option. I have a new (healthy) battery, so I appreciate not being throttled due to a completely fictitious story about battery health. Problem solved and Apple will NEVER try that tactic again. Without any $$$ being handed out, this is a win for consumers!
 
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No company will agree to $500,000,000 settlement because of a mis-communication.
Apple will. $500M is chump change not to be bothered by this and to focus on more critical aspects of the business(such as production in 2020)
People seem to be forgetting that Apple designed test software used to mislead people about their battery. Most likely this was a decision to juice revenues by selling more phones by avoiding battery replacements, and some engineer wrote an email to his/her manager noting that he/she felt this was not a good idea (something along those lines). The email surfaced in the discovery process, and Apple is making sure that their fans can continue to say that Apple is not a run-of-the-mill "profit maximization at all costs" exploiter.
This is hyperbole, plain and simple.
 
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Yes, they were in the wrong.

1. They slowed the phones down on purpose without telling anyone.
2. The effect caused people to believe their phones were faulty due to being slow.
3. They were then advised to upgrade to a new phone in-store, rather than replace their battery.

Thanks to the big hoo har online, Apple ended up adding the new battery settings to iOS. If there was no hoo har, Apple wouldn't have said a word.

It was obviously their strategy to sell phones.

Apple gives the impression of being eco-friendly, but ultimately they are a company who want you to buy a new phone every year, rather than replace the battery.

The same for audio heath in the health app. What's the biggest selling earphone? The airpods. It provides no isolation whatsoever, which means you have to turn up the volume ridiculously loud to hear anything outdoors, which in effect may damage your hearing. Apple counter this with audio health!

Hmmm.
You started off ok, then you started extrapolating and speculating.

I’m fine conceding Apple might have had the wrong approach, but speculating on what Apple thought and their intentions isn’t something I find productive.

It happened and I told everyone here the end result would be a bit nothing, and I was right.
 
Totally. This lawsuit is stupid. Even with the “non good communication” part.
I do agree it is BS. In the future, Apple should just not update any phones that might need to slowdown due to battery age. I'm sure iPhone users would rather have that than a slowdown.
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So do they just automatically send you the credit or do you have to claim it?
Most likely claim it. That's why the $25 could be a lot less if every eligible user claims it.
 
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You started off ok, then you started extrapolating and speculating.

I’m fine conceding Apple might have had the wrong approach, but speculating on what Apple thought and their intentions isn’t something I find productive.

It happened and I told everyone here the end result would be a bit nothing, and I was right.
We have to speculate due to not actually knowing Apple's intentions because they would never admit it.

However, they were forced to pay up to $500million, so we can assume based on the evidence presented in court and the result, they are guilty of misleading consumers.

Battery fault? strategy to slow phones down? who knows. Apple did slow phones down and didn't tell anyone. It would be naive to think this would not have a positive effect on sales.
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When my iPhone 6s started slowing down, I came this close (holds thumb and finger 1 cm apart) from buying a new iPhone. I thought my phone was in dying off. Fortunately, the news came out about the throttling and I kept my phone. I still use it today.

I am convinced that the prospect of people dumping their throttled phone and buying a new one factored into Apple's decision to keep quiet and not inform its customers of the intention slowdown.
I agree! Why sell a replacement when you can sell a new phone?

Apple is in the business of selling phones, not batteries.
 
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Ah yes, class action lawsuits. As usual, the bulk of the millions in settlements go the lawyers, and all we get is chump change.
 
Im awaiting now that every Android manufacturer will pay even more for not supporting SW more than 2 years for ist "flagship" phones ...
If Apple was doing this at Purpouse like they were saying the why granting support for 5, FIVE (in cellphone business is like ages) Years and this is the Thank you for it.
 
Ah yes, class action lawsuits. As usual, the bulk of the millions in settlements go the lawyers, and all we get is chump change.
True, but the alternative is getting nothing while still having a case. It's not perfect by far but is better than the alternative, which is companies can get away with anything not illegal because there was no chance of being sued unless it has the potential for being big dollars for one or two people instead of a group.
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Im awaiting now that every Android manufacturer will pay even more for not supporting SW more than 2 years for ist "flagship" phones ...
I suspect it will be a long wait; as there is no requirement to support new versions. You still have what you bought.
 
True, but the alternative is getting nothing while still having a case. It's not perfect by far but is better than the alternative, which is companies can get away with anything not illegal because there was no chance of being sued unless it has the potential for being big dollars for one or two people instead of a group.

I understand. Class-actions are meant to hurt the defendant financially and settle for large amounts and make them accountable for their actions, not to benefit the plaintiffs unfortunately.
 
I understand. Class-actions are meant to hurt the defendant financially and settle for large amounts and make them accountable for their actions, not to benefit the plaintiffs unfortunately.

Yup. Only the nmed plintiffs get anything beyond a small payment; and if the liability is large they may offer to settle with them to stop the class action.
 
That’s it. The compensation is $25 or less for the class action subscribers. And millions for the lawyers firm.
That’s why the legal system behind class actions is rotten... it is not meant to protect consumers. It is meant to bring money to lawyers.

the only good outcome is Apple won’t do that again.
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... or you could provide for a bigger battery since the beginning.
Or make it exchangable
Or wait just make it an innovative option?
 
At least this will end this saga..

"Apple has maintained no legal wrongdoing despite agreeing to the settlement. U.S. federal judge Edward J. Davila is expected to preliminarily approve the proposed settlement on April 3, 2020. "

You could also argue,since its been going on to far too long, pay the money just to end it. Thee are probably somethings you just can't fight forever.
 
Apple/Mac without a doubt are money grubbing scammers but to be fair are no worse than their corporate peers. They’re all in the game for the almighty $buck. Senior managers, engineers and marketers that don’t deliver on the bottom line for the shareholders soon find themselves on the unemployment line.
 
I know what you mean that was a really dumb thing to do often sometimes people can be so obsessed with getting a certain message across they don’t realize the poor trade-offs they’ve committed much like the dumb IMHO flat design fad that is stylistically unique but forces certain cues to be nearly not as intuitive and easy to use as before or so I have read but oh I’m glad things are slowly but surely moving back to function over form.

PS your second sentence is missing a verb and has an extra space. :)
Outrageous, I know... 😂😂
 
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Apple will. $500M is chump change not to be bothered by this and to focus on more critical aspects of the business(such as production in 2020)

This is hyperbole, plain and simple.
So Apple is happy to pay out half a billion dollars. BS. While it’s not a business unsung amount. It hurt Apple books.
Your answer of its chump change is hyperbole.
 
Apple quality peaked in mid 2012 with mobile computing with high quality, easily up-gradable, expandable laptops.
Still have my mid 2012 non-retina 13" MacBook Pro ... love that machine.
It's been a backward slide in build quality and ethics ever since.
 



Apple has agreed to pay up to $500 million to settle a long-running class action lawsuit in the United States that accused the company of "secretly throttling" older iPhone models, as reported by Reuters.

Each affected iPhone user in the class would receive $25, according to the preliminary settlement, reviewed by MacRumors. The amount could increase or decrease slightly depending on legal fees and the aggregate value of approved claims, with Apple's total payout to fall between $310 million and $500 million.

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The class includes all former or current U.S. owners of the iPhone 6, 6 Plus, 6s, 6s Plus, 7, 7 Plus, and SE running iOS 10.2.1 or later (for the iPhone 6, 6 Plus, 6s, 6s Plus, and SE) or iOS 11.2 or later (for the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus), and who ran these iOS versions before December 21, 2017.

Apple has maintained no legal wrongdoing despite agreeing to the settlement. U.S. federal judge Edward J. Davila is expected to preliminarily approve the proposed settlement on April 3, 2020.

The class action lawsuit was filed in December 2017, after Apple revealed that it throttles the maximum performance of some older iPhone models with chemically aged batteries when necessary in order to prevent the devices from unexpectedly shutting down. The complaint called it "one of the largest consumer frauds in history."

Apple introduced a performance management system in iOS 10.2.1, but it did not initially mention the change in the update's release notes. Likewise, in a statement issued a month later, Apple still only mentioned vague "improvements" resulting in a significant reduction in unexpected ?iPhone? shutdowns.

Apple only revealed exactly what the so-called "improvements" were after Primate Labs founder John Poole visualized that some ?iPhone? 6s and ?iPhone? 7 devices suddenly had lower benchmark scores starting with iOS 10.2.1 and iOS 11.2 respectively, despite operating at maximum performance on previous versions.

Apple apologized for its lack of communication in December 2017, and reduced the price of battery replacements to $29 for ?iPhone? 6 and newer through the end of 2018. Apple then released iOS 11.3 with a new feature that enables users to track their ?iPhone? battery's health and performance status.

The performance management system has also been disabled by default since iOS 11.3, and it is only enabled if an ?iPhone? suffers an unexpected shutdown. The performance management can be manually disabled by users as well.

Article Link: Apple Agrees to Pay Up to $500 Million to Settle Class Action Lawsuit Over 'Secretly Throttling' Older iPhones

Do we have to sign up for this or is it automatic? I had three of those generations so do we get one per generation?
 
Do we have to sign up for this or is it automatic? I had three of those generations so do we get one per generation?
I got an email from them, you have to file a claim in order to get anything. The email says, in part:

How Do You Get a Payment? You must complete and submit a valid Claim Form by March 23, 2020. Claim Forms may be submitted online at www.powerbuttonclassaction.com, or printed from the website and mailed to the address on the form. Claim Forms are also available by calling 1-855-336-4060.​
Your Other Options. If you do nothing, your rights will be affected and you won't get a payment. If you don't want to be legally bound by the settlement, you must exclude yourself from it by January 4, 2020. Unless you exclude yourself, you won't be able to sue or continue to sue Apple for any claim made in this lawsuit or released by the Settlement Agreement.​

Presumably it’s one per phone.
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Apple quality peaked in mid 2012 with mobile computing with high quality, easily up-gradable, expandable laptops.
Still have my mid 2012 non-retina 13" MacBook Pro ... love that machine.
It's been a backward slide in build quality and ethics ever since.
I have a 2011 MBP that keeps chugging along, with a replaceable battery, replaceable drive (upgraded to SSD), replaceable RAM (upgraded to 16GB long after purchase), a solid keyboard, and ports galore. I wish they could build a machine combining those features with the latest processors and screens. Sigh.
 
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Do we have to sign up for this or is it automatic? I had three of those generations so do we get one per generation?
I got an email from them, you have to file a claim in order to get anything. The email says, in part:

How Do You Get a Payment? You must complete and submit a valid Claim Form by March 23, 2020. Claim Forms may be submitted online at www.powerbuttonclassaction.com, or printed from the website and mailed to the address on the form. Claim Forms are also available by calling 1-855-336-4060.​
Your Other Options. If you do nothing, your rights will be affected and you won't get a payment. If you don't want to be legally bound by the settlement, you must exclude yourself from it by January 4, 2020. Unless you exclude yourself, you won't be able to sue or continue to sue Apple for any claim made in this lawsuit or released by the Settlement Agreement.​

Presumably it’s one per phone.
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I have a 2011 MBP that keeps chugging along, with a replaceable battery, replaceable drive (upgraded to SSD), replaceable RAM (upgraded to 16GB long after purchase), a solid keyboard, and ports galore. I wish they could build a machine combining those features with the latest processors and screens. Sigh.
Looks like more details are at https://www.macrumors.com/2020/07/13/iphone-slowdown-lawsuit-notification/
 
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