He joined in April, wtf did you expect to show up on your phone in a few months? Get real
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Apple AI Chief John Giannandrea Gets Promotion to Senior Vice President
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He joined in April, wtf did you expect to show up on your phone in a few months? Get real
Giannandrea was literally hired just under nine months ago with Apple, any changes made with Siri won’t likely debut until IOS 13, what else were you expecting at this point?
Also, your snide remark about his promotion, you have no other idea what type of contributions he has internally with the company, we only know based off of the article says. Whatever promotion was given by Apple, he likely deserves that based off his work efforts.
That guy has serious RDF -- I bet he'll be the next CEO.
In charge of AI at Google, then Apple.
Check out his academic publication list:
https://dblp.org/pers/hd/g/Giannandrea:John
https://ai.google/research/pubs/
But he's tall and has CEO hair, so it's all good.
In charge of AI at Google, then Apple.
Check out his academic publication list:
https://dblp.org/pers/hd/g/Giannandrea:John
https://ai.google/research/pubs/
But he's tall and has CEO hair, so it's all good.
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More ripping on Cue - completely biased and unrelated. At least Eddie proven his worth before being granted senior executive.
This guy just combined two departments as a sniffling to tell the public as to why he’s been graduated to senior VP?!
I’d have like to see at least a full year of employ before becoming a snr executive role - something concrete to show why he deserve that mantle.
Every time I try to explain how worthless Siri is people act like I'm from Mars on these Apple boards. I am an Apple fan, but I am forced to use Alexa because Siri just isn't a reliable product. Come on Apple and all the apologists.... you have all the money in the world. Do something with it.
As Giannandrea was hired this year, how about “because the half-assed AI software doesn’t work, it’s good that this guy got a promotion at Apple”?
Or is it just more fun to lob snarky, wildly misleading comments?
I totally believe that Siri has a LONG way to go, but it is interesting how different experiences can be. I hated my dot because she could never understand me (only listened to my roommate, haha), but Siri does so much better for me. I know it is an oddity. I almost wonder if they hear different vocal tones differently ♂️
Heck as long as you’re Caucasian, have a large nose thenyes yes YES you too can be an executive at Apple. Bonus if your surname ends in “zniak” then you snort have to work hard or barely at all and be given rein in projects with easily attainable rewards.
Steve Wozniak still gets a lifetime stipend did y’all know that?
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Yes nothing has changed with Siri.!! Only shortcuts which was not done in-house just taking from a bed or that had an app on their store that already did the work. So again why is this Heffer getting new distinction and raise for? Nothing quantifyable to qaulifiable has been shown with Siri to justify this!
Does Apple even have own apple hardwares sufficient to do machine running? I'm wondering.
Perhaps somewhere in their cubicle, they have whole bunch of custom PCs with nVidia.
Perhaps somewhere in their cubicle, they have whole bunch of custom PCs with nVidia.
It wasn't a problem with parsing my diction it was what Siri does/doesn't do. I literally had to write custom GoLang scripts to keep Siri/Homekit in sync because half the time it got all screwed around and couldn't do the simplest home automation tasks. I hooked up Alexa pretty much straight away. The difference is the walled garden approach on this one. Alexa just flat out interacts with more things because of the skills that 3rd parties can create. Its an API/SDK, not a licensing process. Apple is suffering a similar fate as they did with maps. By trying too hard to do it "their way" they are falling woefully behind the competition.
In many instances I agree 100% with the closed ecosystem. But this is like only allowing licensed apps on iPhone (please don't get any ideas Tim lol).
Because you can’t transform Siri from a dumb, bare bones digital monkey to a beacon of genius AI in eight months. Think strategically. Apple is fixed on AI and has a multi-year plan to replace Siri with something vastly smarter and permeative. Putting an AI guy in an SVP position is undoubtedly part of this plan. If you want to know how important something is to a company, look at the SVP‘s. When Steve Jobs return to apple, he made Jony Ive SVP of design. I know we’re in an age of instant gratification, but give it time. Rome wasn’t built in a day, let alone rebuilt.
I'm confused so he has been in charge of Apple's AI branch for 9ish months... Now he is promoted and no longer working on Siri? What?
Either that or Siri's replacement and it's foundations have been pretty much finished which would be all around good news.
Either that or Siri's replacement and it's foundations have been pretty much finished which would be all around good news.
I can guarantee you that with Deep Learning, data trumps everything. It's pretty much the bottleneck with current approaches. To change that you need to make major advances in machine learning, and I honestly doubt Apple is in the position to do this.
I am pretty damn sure Apple does not exclusively use Apple hardware for research and development. They just have a bunch of servers in their basement running whatever OS featuring some GPUs that they use remotely to train their models. I doubt they have those on their actual desks though.
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What matters is that he showed the worth to Apple, so he really doesn’t need your approval does he? You have absolutely zero knowledge of what he’s been doing there or why this happened.
NONE of this rebuttals why this guy deserves the promotion lol. It's important to Apple sure, so is their marketing which is turning UP better results that what is publicly known. So it publicly shown Apple is making major strides on improving Siri ... THEN publicly announce the deserving role. He needs to deserve the role, not the role deserving of him.
This is exactly instant pre-ejaculatory raise.
I want factual evidental prof of new improvements warranting this change. Else why bother at all?!
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Here we go.
1. What has he actually shown that you can prove with documentation?
- Shortcuts? (Sorry engineers from a third party app ran that for over 2yrs prior to this guy being an employee)
- implementing of Shortcuts (sorry that was an underling after purchase by Apple to really show it off).
> pulling in two existing and held seprately teams already within Siri together?! LMAO REALLY! How the hell did THIS improve upon Sir? This last action? It didn't! Thus it doesn't deserve executive appointment!
This is classic "I know what I'm worth. Pay me and give me the same title I had before or I walk!"
Apple's response because they cannot get anyone as good or better this quickly.
This isn't about me ... the article is about a position raise that is not qualifiable nor quantifiable. And if not public ... it's bound to stir up crap amongst majority shareholders and internally as well.
Do you know who/what you are talking about? I guess not as it is the case with 99% posters these days.
You quite literally don’t know what you’re talking about. What you do know is that you haven’t had your Siri itch scratched, so you think this guy doesn’t deserve the promotion he got. It’s so funny that you think you know all the NON-consumer-facing things going on at Apple, and that you think you know his current and former job descriptions, just because Siri still lets you down. The first step in learning anything is knowing (or in your case, admitting) what you don’t know.
Still making this about me ... when the thread and the topic is this employee.
Siri is a public facing product/service; plain and simple.
- hired said guru to improve Siri overall.
- The article specifically states he brought in two divisions under one! Those two devisions already work towards Siri as a finished product, not earth shaking there.
EVERY single other executive at Apple has been stated at what they do and how they improved it. Every executive appointed has had this. This guy 1 liner like code or a commandlet itself.
Don't believe me ... look up their site and history of executive appointed individuals. Look at whats listed. Then compare.
Nobody knows except those at Apple directly involved at all the "NON-consumer-facing things" going on at Apple. lol do you even ready what you're typing there? HIs current and former job descriptions are publicly available via Apple.com or LinkedIn (unless he choses to make the latter private); it's NOT difficult.
You're completely acting out of hand to just point a finger yet you don't understand my point.
What has he actually done to deserve the Senior Executive appointment?!
What is the real reason?!
IF Apple cannot state the reason it causes confusion and unreset internally and questions by shareholders. I don't care what he's done at Google beause their AI is based off an entirely different system. So what makes him a guru there doesn't necessarily make him the Guru here: Sorry I'd like to see the proof when raising someone to the upper echelon. You'd want the same for a CEO or president (oh wait whom am I kidding here).
Yawn.
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They've been "more serious" about Siri for years. With minimal results.
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They've been "more serious" about Siri for years. With minimal results.
And I was being told in another thread how MacRumors is a good source for Apple employees to know how their customers think. Most people here want to blame a guy that has been there for 9 months for a year’s long project.
Also, Siri has improved vastly over the last year. But I assume everyone here is ignoring that.
Also, Siri has improved vastly over the last year. But I assume everyone here is ignoring that.
Interesting my home automation works better with Siri than Alexa, but to be honest both are sub par. I also think that I am a pretty basic user of voice assistants (reminders, lights, and texts), so I don’t notice the bigger knowledge gap between Siri and other voice assistants. My brothers ask more knowledge questions and Alexa is almost always better at answering those.