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First off, be clear that anything you pay for at iTunes is not "ownership" - it's simply a one-time payment for a license agreement. You have a license to re-download just so long as the item is available in iTunes - if the publisher pulls it from the store, all you have left is what's saved on your computer and/or iOS device.

You also only "own" the music on a vinyl disk or CD for as long as the physical media lasts (ditto for the words of a print book). You can't walk into a record or book store and say, "I trashed my copy, give me another." Any conservation efforts are up to you (copying to HDD, etc.).

The only person who "owns" IP is the person who holds the copyright. Everyone else rents the IP and owns the plastic/metal/paper it's stored on.

So what might this rumored change mean? Apple might stop selling individual album/song downloads in the next 2-4 years. Period. The music would still exists on their servers for streaming purposes, so presumably as long as Apple maintains purchase history on its servers, people who had previously paid would be able to re-download. If Apple were to leave the music on the server but deny re-downloads, Apple would be the one violating the license agreement.

"Streaming" undoubtedly refers to the business model (subscriptions), not the technology. Imagine telling people, "You'll never have music unless you have an active Internet connection." Offline listening is a critical capability, as is avoiding the cost of streaming over the cellular network. So save-to-device isn't likely to go away, either.

Overall, this may end up seeming less revolutionary in two years or so than it does today. Apple certainly intends to make more under the subscription model than under pay-per-download, and Apple's not going to get the signatures of the record labels, TV executives, and movie studios unless they, too, stand to make more money. That's what's supposed to happen with subscriptions - subscribers willingly pay extra for things like convenience, selection, and an "it's already paid-for" guilt free experience.

People here tend to underestimate the appeal of all-you-can-eat/pay-one-price packages. When priced correctly (and I'm not ready to say that the typical cable TV subscription is priced correctly), people generally feel they get good value and great convenience, and the people selling the service make more (and on a more stable basis) than they would by selling retail. It also overcomes "retail resistance" - at some point, constantly reaching into your pocket to buy is stressful. Since the subscription is paid for up front, there's no guilt when I'm listening/viewing - if anything, there's guilt when I don't listen. I am sure I'm paying more for music now than I did previously - I went years without buying a new CD or iTunes download - but I've also had more enjoyment listening to music than I'd had in decades.

We'll see what this means in the context of Apple's "cable-cutter" package when it finally arrives. I'd guess they'll also have a Netflix-like component, if they're to replace movie rentals. $15/month for Apple Music for the entire family, another $15/month for Apple Movies for the entire family, maybe $50 for a Music/TV/Movies bundle... I think that'll fly.
 
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This is because streaming is cheaper for Apple. Less overhead, they don't have to store the product. How can we get people to spend more...kill off iTunes now people can just use us to stream. BTW we are streaming high bit rate audio now, something you can hear through the new lighting port, and btw your Pandora and Spotify won't be able to use our tech, they won't have access to the libs for high def audio.
I don't get this, of course they still have to store the music it has to come from somewhere. It's just keeping people paying rather than paying once. Anyway this will be a big mistake but on the other hand I'm not 100% certain of it's veracity.
 
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not really an issue for me, i can barely listen to a whole album nowadays let alone play it for longer than 1 or 2 months

probably fallen "victim" to the streaming behaviour but i dont mind. listening to a mix and discovering new stuff daily is great
I still listen to new music every day but I also really enjoy listening to my favourite albums constantly. I also never listen to single songs. I exclusively listen to full albums.
 
Apple is also said to be considering ending music downloads due to the confusion it causes with Apple Music, mixing downloaded music purchases with Apple Music content.
Then God Almighty, Apple, straighten out the mess you've made! It can't cost much to allow for downloads if people want them, no matter how few. This is one of the most disturbing rumors I've heard in a long time, and could actually drive me away from the Apple ecosystem. I don't want to be locked into paying a monthly fee just to listen to music.
 
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Can Jimmy Iovine just bugger off already. Rather than killing off iTunes better integrate it with Apple Music so people don't have to go to a separate app to buy music. They could easily have a buy button for music that isn't streamable.
The retarded database/CMS known as iTunes is still alive? Last I heard it had mated with iPhoto and spawned a deformed crack-baby called Photos.
 
Every time I read crap like this about iTunes or Apple Music, it makes me smile and feel good about the fact that I totally don't use any of it and am happily paying Google $14.99 per month for a Family plan and can do whatever I want with music, be it my own or music I download or stream. And the UI is actually usable!
 
I don't use Apple Music and I don't intend to. I have a large music library that is a mix of CDs and iTunes downloads, all managed through iTunes on an iMac. I have a much smaller selection on my 16GB iPhone. It has worked well for many years. Now I find My Music in ios very intrusive as it seems to list all purchased songs, even if not on the iPhone. If I am connected to my home wifi it seems to download them to the iPhone - filling its memory (I turned off downloading over mobile data)

I wish I could restore and use the old Music app.

Grrr!
 
Frankly who cares what Apple do re music? They had their day and now its gone. If they ever shut people off from their paid-for content they will gut their own revenue base. If they choose to go all streaming, fine, there are plenty of competing services I can choose if Apple offer nothing specific that I value.

The iPad/iTunes ecosystem was special for a while - well integrated and comprehensive. What the current Apple management are useless at is coping with the ever-increasingly short "innovate/mature/exploit/commoditise" cycle that almost all technology is subject to these days. If they had any brains the whole company would be geared to managing that cycle to the benefit of their shareholders. I would be more comfortable with being a shareholder if that was an explicit element of their investment thesis.
 
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I sub to Apple Music and I like it because I can listen to any music I want without having to pay for thousands of individual downloads. That being said, I have my own collection of music, like all Steely Dan, all Donald Fagen, all Walter Becker, the music I always come back to, the music I own. There are new artists that come along whose work I want to own as well. Music I can listen to in my car without using my cellular data. If Apple ceases selling downloads, I will take my business elsewhere.
Actually...any online music service might be bad...if those business shut down (which may be unlikely).
 
Already commented by so many and railed on by me over many threads in the past.... I believe in ownership over rental/subscription. I am sure that there is a large group of people (millennial) who prefer to throw money out the window every month use it or not. I have my 10k plus collection on my hard drive and thanks to Apple Music I am already searching for other places to discover new music since they put radio behind the pay wall. Maybe Apple doesn't care to lose loyal customers like me. Maybe they think they get it back through their drug dealer model (here try it for free and once hooked bleed them until they OD). Whatever, I hope this rumor is not true but if true, that 10k of sales they got from me will certainly go elsewhere.

The saddest part is that I blame my fellow Cuban, Eddy. Chico, esto es una mierda.
 
Starting to see that keeping my home stereo was a good thing. Back to CDs, well if those are still around in the next decade.
 
No thanks.... I like to own my music and have it actually on my devices. I stream when I have service... but there are many times I'm in locations where I have ZERO access to the internet and wish to have music available.
 
This is just another hurt rumor in a long line of them to come that will help push Apple's stock down. The vultures are out in full force these days.
 
If true it means going back to CDs for me and cancelling Apple Music at the same time.

I have been buying all my music from Amazon for years and a copy gets uploaded to Google music automatically..... I have a full copy of my entire library locally in iTunes, on Amazon and Google and it does not cost me a cent.
 
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This is a joke, how long till they stop you buying films too eh? They just don't want YOU to build a collection and know what music YOU want, they want YOU to be told by APPLE what music you want and like with their stupid 'human made playlists'..

Oh well, I guess they want to commit suicide then this will do it. No way will we have in 3 years unlimited data plans to stream music.
I like my Podcasts and the music I OWN, I have not and don't want to subscribe to a music service and if i did, I doubt it would be Apple's service. Is this their way of attempting to force it's service to be more successful by removing any alternatives they offer?
 
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