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Orange sellers are only in it to make money! People who plant orange trees, grow oranges, pick them, pack them and sell them are only interested in one thing. Money! Disgusting…

I for one will not be eating oranges (or anything else unless it is non-profit and state-controlled) ever again! They say eating is good for you - but they just want your money!!
You have a very British sense of humour :)
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Data from the phone/watch is so important for health and diagnosis. Most problems are through lack of exercise and lifestyle so now we have a way to capture this data. NHS should use it to help with diagnosis!
It won't capture what food you just ate or what/how many smokes you have. And would you want it to?
 
The app they have now is terrible.

1) It's very confusing.

2) While you can theoretically export your data, it doesn't work (for me). I've set the screen so that it won't auto-shut off and left it for hours and it never finishes exporting.

3) Even if I could export the data, I can't re-import it.

4) You can't get it online or sync it. And this is possible with other services. I can get my Fitbit and Omron data online. I can log into my insurance company and see health data, log into LabCorp and see test results, and Microsoft Healthvault is actually really good for collecting and viewing your health data.

My Health app data is permanently stuck on my iPhone with a horrible interface, and the only way to get it onto a new device is to backup your entire phone and the restore to that image.

/I know all this because Siri recently stopped working on my phone (not in the way where Siri is dumb...in the way where it just won't show up), and I have to erase my phone but can't restore from a backup because something is apparently corrupted in the software. All my Spotify, email, iCloud stuff, everything basically will repopulate once I sign back in. But not Health data.
 
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Make sure it's unticked via iCloud and it will be local only :)

Aye, but the fact they now give the option at all ups the level of trust I require.

Data from the phone/watch is so important for health and diagnosis. Most problems are through lack of exercise and lifestyle so now we have a way to capture this data. NHS should use it to help with diagnosis!

At the moment its not that important - we know exercise good, smoking, drinking, overeating bad. Watches don't change that. If they actually get something like real time glucose monitoring to work with FDA approval it will be hugely important.
 
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At the moment its not that important - we know exercise good, smoking, drinking, overeating bad. Watches don't change that. If they actually get something like real time glucose monitoring to work with FDA approval it will be hugely important.

I think this data is important for diagnosis. Food and drink is harder to monitor as it would need to be done manually, but an Apple Watch is great as it monitors your heart and steps along with sleep. All these show patterns which could be used by GPs or hospitals. The more information about someone the better, glucose monitoring would be great because if a patient lied about what they ate, you can see they had a spike and questioning work out what caused it.

Smoking (e-cig) would be possible to log. Stick a sensor in it, bluetooth it and every time you turn it on and use, it's logged. Surprised no one has done it.

So many problems can be resolved by diet, exercise and lifestyle.
 
Medical ID quite possibly saved my life. This past March I had a medical emergency and was unable to speak when asked questions by the medics, but was just barely able to pull up Medical ID from the lock screen before going completely out of it. I hope to see more features like this, and I'm glad Apple is investing in this field.

***Public Service Announcement (or more like a friendly plea to everyone here): Set up and make sure your Medical ID is up to date and become familiar with how to access it fast - it may just save your life!***

Sorry for my ignorance, but is "Medical ID" an app?
 
Here in NY, Northwell health insurance has a service at followmyhealth.com where my doctors, hospitals, pharmacies, and labs have all joined. When I sign in I can see all my med records, lab results as they come in, prescriptions, the works. Having a more universal system like this in an iOS app would be swell!
 
I'd like a national standard.

Not Apple proprietary.

Standards often start off as a company's or organization's proprietary format, which is then opened up to the industry at large. In my experience, standards-by-committee almost never produces a useful standard.
 
I'd like a national standard.

Not Apple proprietary.

Health records are far to important for any company to control. A company such as Apple, but more likely Google, may work with government to design and implement a system, but the government must control the system and data store age.

Apple is in the business of selling electronics, if these help Apple users track their health that is great, but Apple shouldn't even being contemplating controlling a any kind of national records. What about people who don't own or can not afford an iPhone? Should they have access to healthcare?
 
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Medical ID quite possibly saved my life. This past March I had a medical emergency and was unable to speak when asked questions by the medics, but was just barely able to pull up Medical ID from the lock screen before going completely out of it. I hope to see more features like this, and I'm glad Apple is investing in this field.

***Public Service Announcement (or more like a friendly plea to everyone here): Set up and make sure your Medical ID is up to date and become familiar with how to access it fast - it may just save your life!***
As a diabetic with a heart condition I'm very pleased that my Apple Watch has an emergency button I can hold down that calls 911, doctors and family with my location and info. It's like one of those pendants but for free!
 
Health records are far to important for any company to control. A company such as Apple, but more likely Google, maybe work with government to design and implement a system, but the government mush control the system and data store age.

Apple is in the business of selling electronics, if these help Apple users track their health that is great, but Apple shouldn't even being contemplating controlling a any kind of national records. What about people who don't own or can not afford an iPhone? Should they have access to healthcare?

Absolutely agreed. But the iPhone would be optional, of course.
 
Can we trust this as much as we can trust anything that's stored in iCloud? Given Apple's past track record.....

When was iCloud ever hacked and any data stolen in which the end user not only failed to exercise basic common sense security practices, but also didn't volunteer their info up the minute they were phished? Also, wasn't the last "hack" actually proven to have been a situation where a completely different company actually was hacked, and the users used the exact same credentials across services? Not exactly Apple's problem in that case.
 
OK, I get it, you're bashing Microsoft on an Apple fan forum. I worked at a Doctors surgery referring people within the NHS. The reason they are still (yes still) using Windows XP is because they bought MRA equipment, or mammogram equipment, stuff that only works with custom built programs designed to run on Windows XP. A MRA machine is half a million pounds (£); Really? Do you think they'll throw that away to be more compatible with the modern World?.

It's a light-heated reference to the recent cyber attack on the NHS that only worked because they were running XP and hadn't installed the appropriate patch. I'd humbly suggest that if a computer system is needed to run vital equipment or hold personal health data it is either secured or not connected to the Internet directly. Anyway, I doubt will see that level of interaction with Apple Watch and health services in the UK unless it is with private companies who can make it a selling point. And before you now accuse me of NHS-bashing or whatever, I'd rather they spent their limited funding on frontline care such as nurses anyway.
 
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The NHS isn't just Scotland though. It's the whole of the UK - 65 million people who all get free Healthcare!

My understanding is NHS records are not connected nationwide. They tried to integrate England's records, failed and the project was cancelled.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHS_Digital#care.data

Yeah, not so here in the US. If a patient shows up in the ER, I'll be lucky if they pull out a piece of paper with their meds scribbled on it

That's a big generalization. I get my care from a regional medical group (not Kaiser), and everything is electronic. I've never even gotten a paper prescription to fill, the pharmacy gets it by computer.

3) Even if I could export the data, I can't re-import it.

4) You can't get it online or sync it. And this is possible with other services.

Didn't you listen to Tim Cook? Privacy!!!!!!
 
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I just hope they don't try and force something on to us.

Even if they (currently) happen once in a blue moon, the 'health badge' announcements on my Apple Watch always seem to happen at the most annoying time but AFAIK they can't be stopped.
 
I really like the idea behind this. It's always irked me how my doctor keeps a detailed history of my health which I don't have access to.

That's backwards.

I should have full access to all my health history, including all lab tests, X-rays and doctors notes on my visits and then I should be able to share it with relevant specialists or health institutions who are taking care of me. If I visit a hospital, I tap my iPhone or Apple Watch on a terminal to give them instant access to my history. If I stop dealing with that hospital, I can revoke access.
YES! There is nothing more frustrating than trying to get your doctor to send over data to another specialist. And you never know whether it gets sent over you just have to hope for the best.
 
I really like the idea behind this. It's always irked me how my doctor keeps a detailed history of my health which I don't have access to.

That's backwards.

I should have full access to all my health history, including all lab tests, X-rays and doctors notes on my visits and then I should be able to share it with relevant specialists or health institutions who are taking care of me. If I visit a hospital, I tap my iPhone or Apple Watch on a terminal to give them instant access to my history. If I stop dealing with that hospital, I can revoke access.

It doesn't work that way. If you visit a hospital, the medical history you give becomes part of the chart the hospital creates for you - in other words, it's copied to their own records. There's no way to "revoke" access.
 
I think this data is important for diagnosis. Food and drink is harder to monitor as it would need to be done manually, but an Apple Watch is great as it monitors your heart and steps along with sleep. All these show patterns which could be used by GPs or hospitals. The more information about someone the better, glucose monitoring would be great because if a patient lied about what they ate, you can see they had a spike and questioning work out what caused it.

Smoking (e-cig) would be possible to log. Stick a sensor in it, bluetooth it and every time you turn it on and use, it's logged. Surprised no one has done it.

So many problems can be resolved by diet, exercise and lifestyle.

"Important for diagnosis" of what? Disease states? Acute symptomatology?

I haven't found a single bit of "health" data from Apple, Fitbit, Garmin, etc. that has been useful in my medical practice. And not a single one of my colleagues has either.

We are a LONG way from having consumer grade devices that provide useful/meaningful health monitoring data to the clinician.
 
"Important for diagnosis" of what? Disease states? Acute symptomatology?

I haven't found a single bit of "health" data from Apple, Fitbit, Garmin, etc. that has been useful in my medical practice. And not a single one of my colleagues has either.

We are a LONG way from having consumer grade devices that provide useful/meaningful health monitoring data to the clinician.

Because the data provided by these devices replaces the day-to-day need for an expensive primary care physician. Example:
-My wifi scale charts weight. There was a period where I started to gain weight and body fat, so I exercised more, ate less. No doctor needed.
-I ran an app that kept track of caffeine intake. It said I shouldn't drink so much in the afternoon. Did that, slept better. No doctor needed.
-One app keeps track of what you ate. I found I was getting too little iron and calcium and the multivitamin I was taking didn't have any. Switched to a different vitamin. No doctor needed.

I have a better view of my health than one weight measurement every 12 months and 60 seconds of "what's wrong?" can provide a physician. I only told him what I did after the fact.

Proper care should be encouraging people to take steps like this, not saying that technology is useless.
 
Not interested at all.

Hopefully, they have a setting to turn this off.

Just as long as the data transfer (can be disabled) and backups secure and can be deleted by the end user separate or from a centralized listing in iCloud - then Im all for it.

More importantly that THIS kind of data is NOT made available to HMO's that could affect higher insurance costs or lack of coverage.

i think Apple needs to pay strict attention to law changes goin forward in these areas of Health, Health Records and data access from 3rd Parties - anything beyond Apple + Doctors i consider 3rd parties.
 
The mountains of paperwork I had to help my parents fill out each new Dr visit asking the same bloody questions is mind boggling stupid.
And a chance for a critical mistake.

This will make things much better!
 
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