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Notice I used the word "consumer". Consumer != businesses. Consumers don't pay google to advertise and what google "sells" you are the ads... or more accurately you are paying google with your privacy, allowing them to brainwash you with consistent ad-placement and track you through the internet for analytics to see how they can optimize ads in your face so that you are more likely to accidentally or purposefully follow links.

I'm not sure how you think an apple iPhone, computer or any electronic device is the same thing as an ad? My point was that Apple develops phones (what we are talking about in this forum) and tries to get people to love and buy them because that's their primary business. UNLIKE Google (as an example) that focuses on selling ads to businesses and tries to make phones/software for their primary business (ad-networks). Not sure why you changed the scope of what I said to engulf every possible product or service in the world?

This is not a very complex idea. The previous poster did the same thing, took a simple idea and blew it out to include all things under the sun. Why?

No, you said something:

"I still love Apple and always will because they make their $$$ of selling products that people like and choose to buy."

you were then called out and then you moved the goalposts by trying to say that you said something else.

Companies turn a profit by creating and selling a product or a service to its consumers.

advertising space and the data that Google collects are its products and the advertisers are its consumers.

A consumer is the end user of a product or service, so yes advertisers,businesses and even giant corporations can be consumers.

It's not a complex concept, however it is one that you seem to fail to grasp.
 
3 different screens. I bet there will be technical and visible differences. It's going to be a lottery if you want the good screen.
 
I currently own the 5s and it's a solid handset. But it'd be nice to stay on the cutting edge in terms of battery optimisations, general performance, camera quality etc. without potentially having to move up in size.

Agree 100%. I don't want to be forced to buy a 4.7" screen just to get the latest features, like the ones you named, but also others that we don't even know are coming (along the lines of Siri and Touch ID).

It is very clear Apple needs to be in the larger screen market for their own sake. And while I understand they don't want to crowd their iPhone line with tons of screen sizes, I'm really hoping they have a 4" option.
 
I can't be the only one with that sinking realisation that there really will not be a 4 inch iPhone this time round.

I'm glad for those that have championed a bigger screen finally getting what they want. But I really have no need for the bigger screen on my phone.

Same. The 4S is perfect for me. I don't need a taller display and I certainly don't want a wider display. I'll stick with the 4S until there's a replacement and comparable device from another manufacturer or until Apple make another small one.
(would be great if they kept the C line going for the next phone and that it was 4S sized! And an S line with a larger screen)
 
don't bother

:mad: don't bother looking for suppliers for the 4.7 inch (tiny phone model)... Look for suppliers for the 5.7 inch model that everyone wants and has been for a very long time now.:mad:
 
No, you said something:

"I still love Apple and always will because they make their $$$ of selling products that people like and choose to buy."

you were then called out and then you moved the goalposts by trying to say that you said something else.

Companies turn a profit by creating and selling a product or a service to its consumers.

advertising space and the data that Google collects are its products and the advertisers are its consumers.

A consumer is the end user of a product or service, so yes advertisers,businesses and even giant corporations can be consumers.

It's not a complex concept, however it is one that you seem to fail to grasp.

Oh my god... how are you not understanding this. Let's do some basic exercises to get you to understand.

1) Is a service-related product relevant to this post? Correct answer is , no.
2) Does google make phones or software that are relevant to this post? Yes
3) Does Apple make phones or software that are relevant to this post? Yes
4) When comparing google and apple, are their primary business roles the same? No
... now hopefully i haven't lost you yet... Based on the answer above, apple is focused on phones & hardware, google is focused on ads...

still with me? Now let's try to put that together... I like Apple because they make products (i.e. phones–relevant items to this thread) while other companies make more of their money off different aspects of the business (warranty plans, ad networks, etc).

Notice, I did not include toilets, or cars, or any other product in this thread. Just the original topic.

But hey, you really brought GREAT information to my response by saying that companies make products and consumers buy the products. You even made it really intelligent by saying sometimes the consumers are businesses. I mean whoa, mind blowing.
 
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Oh my god... how are you not understanding this. Let's do some basic exercises to get you to understand.

1) Is a service-related product relevant to this post? Correct answer is , no.
2) Does google make phones or software that are relevant to this post? Yes
3) Does Apple make phones or software that are relevant to this post? Yes
4) When comparing google and apple, are their primary business roles the same? No
... now hopefully i haven't lost you yet... Based on the answer above, apple is focused on phones & hardware, google is focused on ads...

still with me? Now let's try to put that together... I like Apple because they make products (i.e. phones–relevant items to this thread) while other companies make more of their money off different aspects of the business (warranty plans, ad networks, etc).

Notice, I did not include toilets, or cars, or any other product in this thread. Just the original topic.

But hey, you really brought GREAT information to my response by saying that companies make products and consumers buy the products. You even made it really intelligent by saying sometimes the consumers are businesses. I mean whoa, mind blowing.

Time of the month?..
 
OK, screens from 3 different suppliers. Who's going to get the bad ones?

I had the ghosting problem with my 1g retina macbook pro, so fully understand

There really should be some consumer protection laws about this... At least full transparency for the customer about the components of the device they're purchasing.
 
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