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Nope. I use and rely on Siri everyday.


It's the same again and again, siri is crap, maps sucks, it used to be but they both have improved to be very useable.
Siri understands me perfectly and I am not native English.
Maps provided me with the right directions (3 times) last holiday while Google took me to the middle of nowhere.
 
The HomePod is for music. Not audio.

At least 70% of the audio playing in my living room at any given time is audio from video. The HomePod may have a niche market to go after, but it leaves me out entirely because we're simply not listening to music all that often.

- I need a speaker system solution from Apple that takes Video into consideration.
- I want hands-free Hey Siri control of the Apple TV.
 
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The Internet Myth about Siri is just plain silly. They all have their strengths, but Siri is by far the most used personal assistant in the world--over half a billion people use Siri regularly every month. She knows more languages, again more by far, than the others. Independent testing shows Siri excels over Alexa and Google in many areas. Siri is also the only one that protects your privacy. If you choose to go with Google or Amazon, everything they hear is collected in the cloud on their servers for their use, as well as available to law enforcement, intel agencies, hackers, etc.

Google goes even farther and links everything you say to your universal identifier number. Amazing that people don't care that Google is trying to build a dossier on every person that links the contents of every Gmail sent or received, every photo taken or received, everywhere you drive, every document you upload, every website you visit, every post you make, everything you watch, everything you buy, etc. At some point, when people realize how those dossiers are being used and misused, they will have tremendous regret.
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If that's true, why do more people in the world use Siri (over a 500 million use it regularly each month), by far than any other assistant?

i fully understand the privacy view you have here and i respect that. but you are shilling if you think Siri is anywhere remotely close to the google assistant. Siri is total trash with anything other than "set an alarm". Heck, even half the time when i tell it to "shuffle all my songs" it messes up
 
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Being in these chambers for even a few minutes begins to cause issues for most people. You can hear your heart beat and blood pumping through your body. Eventually you can go crazy.

Every time Apple puts up a post about these rooms, I do want to experience it just to feel the unrest for a few moments and of course the option to leave when it becomes too much. I'd pay $99 for up to a half hour in one of these. Not even sure where to start finding one.
 
It's a joke, but really Beats aren't that great sounding for the price, quantity (# of profit) over quality (sounding good)

Haha, thought so.

But still, how does beats work today? Do they have their own engeneers that work seperat from apple? Or are their engeers moved into the apple system?
 
i fully understand the privacy view you have here and i respect that. but you are shilling if you think Siri is anywhere remotely close to the google assistant. Siri is total trash with anything other than "set an alarm". Heck, even half the time when i tell it to "shuffle all my songs" it messes up


My experience, and those of most people I know, is much different than yours. I am an extremely heavy computer user and use Siri from the time I get up, to when I go to bed at night. Yes, she does a great job of setting alarms and timers, but also reading and sending messages, she's super smart about sports, weather, math, etc. She defines words throughout the day when I am reading. She makes phone calls effortlessly. I use her to order Uber. Siri on TV is terrific, to pause, turn up/down volume, back/forward. Great on turning off/on features like low power mode. Latest thing she does well for me is to translate.

So much a myth about Siri. Based on comparisons with family and friends when we are sitting around, I believe Google is inferior in some ways, and superior in only one--Search. I think Google Assistant is still a better searcher right now. But, to call Siri trash is just plain silly.
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It's the same again and again, siri is crap, maps sucks, it used to be but they both have improved to be very useable.
Siri understands me perfectly and I am not native English.
Maps provided me with the right directions (3 times) last holiday while Google took me to the middle of nowhere.


What is most amazing is how quickly so many Americans gave up concern over privacy. Google takes everything that their assistant hears and links it to the universal identifier number they try to assign to every person in America and elsewhere. That links everything they are compiling about you into a file that is kept forever and is available to hackers, law enforcement, intel agencies, their subsidiaries and whoever they sell to in the future.
 
MWhat is most amazing is how quickly so many Americans gave up concern over privacy. Google takes everything that their assistant hears and links it to the universal identifier number they try to assign to every person in America and elsewhere. That links everything they are compiling about you into a file that is kept forever and is available to hackers, law enforcement, intel agencies, their subsidiaries and whoever they sell to in the future.


If I understand the new Eu privacy law well enough, people there have far more rights (in a couple of months), I think you can even ask for them to delete your data, as it should be.
 
Intereting to see behind the scenes of the HomePod testing in the process and how they determine the sound will translate in such a controlled environment.
 
Sound quality has been their secret success story in the last few years, the Macbooks right down to the 12" are among the best in the industry. Even the 12" was in the top 2% of devices tested on Notebookcheck. Then the iPad Pro with the quad speaker setup, and even the iPhones built in speakers are serviceable now.

The Airpods are decent, but I hope Gen 2 really carries away sound quality like some of their other products recently have.
 
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If I understand the new Eu privacy law well enough, people there have far more rights (in a couple of months), I think you can even ask for them to delete your data, as it should be.


That's a good start. The key is to make things opt in as "opt out" or "later delete" is a sham pushed by the data collectors as they know most consumers will never even be aware of it. The other thing is that Google, et al, should be required to disclose the universal identifier system and show everything they have amassed on the citizens of the world. It truly would amaze people to learn that a giant company is trying to assemble a dossier on every citizen in the world. It started off with simply tracking searches, but like the Borg, Google's database of private data is always growing. (On this very site, they are trying to install 3 separate trackers on my session (thank you Ghostery and Apple) to track me even though I don't use any of their products). Google was very smart to realize human nature was such that if people got stuff for free, they wouldn't pay attention. Just think how tyrannical govt's and intel agencies are able to learn everywhere you go, every friend and associate, everything about anyone who the govt deems a threat, just by accessing Google's database, with or without Google's permission.

You can't get away from the fact that 90% of Google's revenue comes from selling access to you; thus they would be out of business quickly if they ever lost access to your private data. Ditto Facebook.
 
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That's a good start. The key is to make things opt in as "opt out" or "later delete" is a sham pushed by the data collectors as they know most consumers will never even be aware of it. The other thing is that Google, et al, should be required to disclose the universal identifier system and show everything they have amassed on the citizens of the world. It truly would amaze people to learn that a giant company is trying to assemble a dossier on every citizen in the world. It started off with simply tracking searches, but like the Borg, Google's database of private data is always growing. (On this very site, they are trying to install 3 separate trackers on my session (thank you Ghostery and Apple) to track me even though I don't use any of their products). Google was very smart to realize human nature was such that if people got stuff for free, they wouldn't pay attention. Just think how tyrannical govt's and intel agencies are able to learn everywhere you go, every friend and associate, everything about anyone who the govt deems a threat, just by accessing Google's database, with or without Google's permission.

You can't get away from the fact that 90% of Google's revenue comes from selling access to you; thus they would be out of business quickly if they ever lost access to your private data. Ditto Facebook.

I use Ghostery, Little snitch and GasMask to prevent Google getting into my computer, I also use startpage, gets me the google search results without them collecting data on me.
 
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You can hear your heart beat and blood pumping through your body. Eventually you can go crazy.

totally true. your speech, your everyday noises just fade away.
we have a seemingly bit bigger room like this where i work. to be honest, it is currently not very much used, but in the peak mobile phone era by the end of 90s every single cellphone what was meant to be sold publicly had to pass a set of rigorous measurements, that included precise audio tests in this very room.
 
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What would sound better: 2 Homepods or a Sonos playbar?

Patience. At this point in time, none of us have even heard the HP yet. There will likely be head-to-head showdowns by AV media soon after 2/9. Maybe one will put this particular duo in the ring.

Also, those are dramatically different products. One seems more aimed at a Home Theater setup while the other is more aimed at music. One has great versatility in terms of what audio can be fed to it and what streaming audio is can play, the other is walled garden specific, with no hardware ports to connect any traditional source.

Think about what you are mostly wanting this purchase to play:
  • If Home Theater with some music, probably Sonos and Playbar competition deserves more consideration.
  • If Music with maybe some home theater, probably HP and HP competition deserves more consideration.
Note that Sonos positions that product as both while Apple really is not pushing HP much as a home theater speaker at all. At this point in time, it still needs a software update to even make 2 HPs work together as a "stereo-like" pair. No putdown to HP or Apple there- just pointing out how one product is built for such flexibility right out of the box while the other might move in that direction at some point... or it might not.
 
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The HomePod is for music. Not audio.

At least 70% of the audio playing in my living room at any given time is audio from video. The HomePod may have a niche market to go after, but it leaves me out entirely because we're simply not listening to music all that often.

- I need a speaker system solution from Apple that takes Video into consideration.
- I want hands-free Hey Siri control of the Apple TV.

This is exactly my use case and I want to use HomePod with Apple TV to watch films/TV more than music.

The built-in speakers of my 2017 LG Super UHD 4K TV have terrible sound, I’m not interested in spending $$$$$ for a full home cinema experience. I want clear sound that doesn’t need to be pumped up to the max just to hear speech.

[Serious question...] The temporary lack of pairing functionality aside, what leads you to believe that HomePod audio won’t work well for video content when pairing and multiroom Airplay 2 arrives in iOS 11.3 and tvOS 11.3? What is missing?
 
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I like Apple's testing rooms.

-2 dBA not bad.

I could just sit and constant stare at those all day.
 
Does anyone know if we will be able to walk into Apple Store and purchase HomePod on Friday 2/9? I see in store pickup option isn’t available and I live near a Apple Store so I’d like to just walk in and pick one up.
 
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