Apple and Google Had Informal Agreement Not to Poach Each Others' Employees

[killerrobot]

and i thought non-completes were un-enforceable in CA in general?

Correct. In some states they are banned.


Lethal

Non-compete clauses are basically unenforceable under California employment law.

Understood, but it's not the California Republic investigating this, it's the Feds.
Are the non-competes still not binding if the employees are not employed at the HQ but rather at the satellites in different states?

All of that is besides the point I guess. I see how this could keep employee wages lower.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Understood, but it's not the California Republic investigating this, it's the Feds.
Are the non-competes still not binding if the employees are not employed at the HQ but rather at the satellites in different states?

Like I said in my first post, non-compete clauses in general are very difficult to enforce. The Courts aren't very inclined to give companies the power to dictate how and when their ex-employees can earn a living. I'm not an expert, but from what I've read the only non-competes that have a chance are ones that are very narrowly tailored in terms of duration (usually just months), job description/duties, and geographic location.


Lethal

 

[killerrobot]

Like I said in my first post, non-compete clauses in general are very difficult to enforce...

I read all the replies and thanks for the info and responses. After all the responses I realized it was a moot point, and realized it was up to the individual companies to enforce their non-compete contracts which is why I also said...

All of that is besides the point I guess. I see how this could keep employee wages lower.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

I read all the replies and thanks for the info and responses. After all the responses I realized it was a moot point, and realized it was up to the individual companies to enforce their non-compete contracts which is why I also said...

I signed a lengthy NDA and non compete when I joined Apple.

 

[inkswamp]

WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!

You know, the bigger you get those letters, the more true it becomes.

Apple notoriously poached members from Gap

Thank goodness, too because I was really worried about Gap's desktop operating system.

 

[designgeek]

I thought this was kind of funny, I wonder how this will work out in the future.

 

[wshwe]

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Such agreements should be outlawed. They're collusion plain and simple.

 

[Sehnsucht]

Which may explain Google's horrific UI and software design.

 

[MorphingDragon]

TBH, A WebKit based OS doesnt float my boats. Wheres the accessible power that the C languages were renowned for? The complex core capable of MultiThreading? Its like making a car from a Lawn Mower engine.

If the GUI theme is anything like GTK, Id much rather devel for .net on windows. It may just be another WebOS.


Microsoft dont make top talent, They buy it. My Computing teacher used to work for Microsoft. She... she has some horror stories... *TWITCH!!!

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

You know, the bigger you get those letters, the more true it becomes.



Thank goodness, too because I was really worried about Gap's desktop operating system.

So its ok to poach from some companies?

 

[inkswamp]

So its ok to poach from some companies?

Did I say that?

 

[DELLsFan]

Doesn't everyone working on any Apple project have to sign a non-compete clause as part of their contract?

A good idea if not. In fact ALL Apple employees regardless of station should sign such a clause. Even the retail store prima-donnas should be included. They potentially get more knowledge of product releases and the like than the general public.

 

[wshwe]

Non-Competes Illegal in California

In California employee non-compete contract clauses are illegal.

 

[DELLsFan]

In California employee non-compete contract clauses are illegal.

I did not know this! Interesting! I wonder what precedent set that law in stone ...

 

[wshwe]

I did not know this! Interesting! I wonder what precedent set that law in stone ...

I think it's a state law.

 

[DELLsFan]

I think it's a state law.

If you say so ... but I'm wondering why? My guess is that there was some high profile lawsuit a while ago that precipitated the legislative action in CA to change the law moving forward.

 

[kdarling]

If you say so ... but I'm wondering why? My guess is that there was some high profile lawsuit a while ago that precipitated the legislative action in CA to change the law moving forward.

The law was never changed. California, like some other west-of-the-Mississippi states (Colorado comes to mind), has had laws forbidding most non-compete clauses for well over a hundred years.

There was a high profile case about ten years ago that ruled any non-competes from other states could not be enforced either, if you came to work in California.

 

[DELLsFan]

The law was never changed. California, like some other west-of-the-Mississippi states (Colorado comes to mind), has had laws forbidding most non-compete clauses for well over a hundred years.

There was a high profile case about ten years ago that ruled any non-competes from other states could not be enforced either, if you came to work in California.

Well, now ... color me confused then. Are there non-compete laws in CA, or are there laws prohibiting the practice of non-compete provisions in contracts by employers?