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Paywall...right..so "only the wealthy" everyone...What is the URL for the paywall....??

https://developer.apple.com/swift/resources/

^ You can find Swift videos there (scroll to the bottom). I got to this section simply by following the breadcrumbs at https://developer.apple.com/swift/. Just because Apple doesn't post it on their main page does not mean they are not pushing Swift. Most aspiring (or current) developers will be looking at a sub page than the main page for this type of information.

Regarding the paywall, look here: https://developer.apple.com/programs/

I wouldn't say only the "wealthy" can get it. It depends what the value of $100 per year (or $8.33 / month) is to you.
 
Hi ipponrg,

You missed my point, the point was that if Apple Inc was serious about Swift and everyone can code, the videos, tutorials, the entire Swift experience would be front and center on the home page, accessible via 1 click, but that it is hidden for the most part, and the video link you posted, only has stale video for obsolete versions of Swift only says one thing...Apple has made the decision in Chicago to abandon Swift, it has zero interest in the promotion, in the production of video and tutorials, Apple has zero corporate interest in Swift.

What will it take to prove this? It is not hard to understand, Apple has abandoned Swift.
 
Hi ipponrg,

You missed my point, the point was that if Apple Inc was serious about Swift and everyone can code, the videos, tutorials, the entire Swift experience would be front and center on the home page, accessible via 1 click, but that it is hidden for the most part, and the video link you posted, only has stale video for obsolete versions of Swift only says one thing...Apple has made the decision in Chicago to abandon Swift, it has zero interest in the promotion, in the production of video and tutorials, Apple has zero corporate interest in Swift.

What will it take to prove this? It is not hard to understand, Apple has abandoned Swift.

Hi,

No, I did not miss your point. Apple is always serious about Swift. It's their entry point to developing apps for their platform. It's just not obvious to non-engineers such as yourself.

I would argue that Apple Inc is focused on consumer sales and products, and Apple Developer is focused on providing developer products. They have historically always been different sites, and one will never promote the other. Many other big tech companies do the same thing where they separate their consumer products from their developer products.

Regarding Everyone Can Code, I just went to their site, and at the bottom you find course work and Swift playground (https://www.apple.com/everyone-can-code/)

Last note, Apple has always been pretty lazy with their UX on their developer website.
 
Apple Inc and Apple Developer are the same company, with the same aims, to I would assume sell more Apple products...

So if Apple Inc, the spaceship, Tim Cook was serious about Swift, I cannot see how they are serious about Swift or Coding in general, then they would make access as easy as possible, not as difficult as possible.

You see, the greater the access to code, the greater the chance that "coder" would invest in the tech they are wanting to code for, so cross promoting is key, your argument is exactly what Tim Cook is doing, that is killing any hope of people getting into coding...

Apple Inc harps on about this concept "everyone can code" that means not limited to 0.01% of the population, that means young and old, those with PHD's from MIT and those that have just a school leavers certificate..

The point Apple has missed is the word "everyone" what is meant by "everyone"??? Why is Swift hidden, is Apple embarrassed by Swift and Everyone can code?? I would say yes, as the information is hidden, there is no promotion of any material by Apple..

To take this to the logical end, the every ipad unveiled at this Chicago event does not mention anywhere on that website of the 9,7 inch ipad Swift or coding...Apple used coding to reveal it, and yet the website created does not mention coding or Swift??? Why??? I will tell you why, Apple has abandoned Swift and coding for everyone!
 
Apple Inc and Apple Developer are the same company, with the same aims, to I would assume sell more Apple products...

So if Apple Inc, the spaceship, Tim Cook was serious about Swift, I cannot see how they are serious about Swift or Coding in general, then they would make access as easy as possible, not as difficult as possible.

You see, the greater the access to code, the greater the chance that "coder" would invest in the tech they are wanting to code for, so cross promoting is key, your argument is exactly what Tim Cook is doing, that is killing any hope of people getting into coding...

Apple Inc harps on about this concept "everyone can code" that means not limited to 0.01% of the population, that means young and old, those with PHD's from MIT and those that have just a school leavers certificate..

The point Apple has missed is the word "everyone" what is meant by "everyone"??? Why is Swift hidden, is Apple embarrassed by Swift and Everyone can code?? I would say yes, as the information is hidden, there is no promotion of any material by Apple..

To take this to the logical end, the every ipad unveiled at this Chicago event does not mention anywhere on that website of the 9,7 inch ipad Swift or coding...Apple used coding to reveal it, and yet the website created does not mention coding or Swift??? Why??? I will tell you why, Apple has abandoned Swift and coding for everyone!

I'm not exactly pro Apple either, but you're overthinking the entire situation.

I'm approaching this from a user experience point of view for browsing the Apple site. When you go to apple.com, most users are expecting a retail store page. For those of us that are into coding, it's instinctive to just go to developer.apple.com. The reason you separate the 2 sites is because they are targeting 2 different demographics: one is for retail, and the other is for developers.

Have you noticed what they accomplished? They got you to search for their "Everyone can code" site. You may have had trouble navigating to find such information, but you can be assured there are many others who won't have the same difficulty.

Lastly, their best promotion tactic is word of mouth and online 3rd party news outlets. It's more powerful than clicking around on a website.
 
Swift is more of a niche pyramid scheme to give 30% cut to Tim Cook. It's better to think about what industry you want to get into then focus on programming languages that are currently in demand and upcoming ones. Perhaps look at Github's top 10 programming languages. For something simple but relevant look into Python that's popular with machine learning then progress to Go for backend development, C++ for industry standard, Rust for upcoming, etc.

https://octoverse.github.com/
 
Swift is more of a niche pyramid scheme to give 30% cut to Tim Cook. It's better to think about what industry you want to get into then focus on programming languages that are currently in demand and upcoming ones. Perhaps look at Github's top 10 programming languages. For something simple but relevant look into Python that's popular with machine learning then progress to Go for backend development, C++ for industry standard, Rust for upcoming, etc.

https://octoverse.github.com/

Last I checked, you have to code in Objective C or Swift to make an Apple iOS/tvOS app.

These Github stats are misleading particularly because it's more relevant to open source communities with public commits/repos. The job market with open reqs is a better indicator of what is in demand. (e.g. https://stackify.com/popular-programming-languages-2018/)

Google recently released support with TensorFlow for Swift and Javascript. So you don't necessarily have to work with Python for ML. The problem with Rust/Go is the community is very small right now. It will be a while for if/when it ever gets big.
 
So Apple is not keen on Swift, that is fact!!

They don't have to be anymore. Swift has left Apple’s nursery, grown up and risen to be one of the Top 10 most popular programming languages according to some rankings ( more popular the Go or Perl). There’s tons of info on Swift on 3rd party sites, including stackoverfllw and github. And a mass of videos for anyone who looks.

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Last I checked, you have to code in Objective C or Swift to make an Apple iOS/tvOS app.

It’s also possible to code an iOS app purely in C. Although it’s easier to do 1% of an app in Obj C.
 
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