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Apple and Qualcomm Reach Settlement, Agree to Drop All Litigation
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Sure I can. I can do whatever I want.
And since I know patent law, readers can choose to believe me or not, as they wish.
I am not sure many people will believe you after statements like that
Qualcomm caved and is getting RAND with an additional contract of 7 years stability. That's the reason the stock is up. They dropped all of their double/triple dipping and you can bet a precedent has been set.
Yeah... no.
If Apple’s stock jumped 15% at nearly a trillion dollar value you’re talking BILLIONS of dollars just got bought worth of stocks.
If Qualcomm goes up 15% on an 84 billion dollar value you’re talking millions of dollars were invested. They were also down considerably because the FTC case isn’t looking so hot and they’re trying to settle that one out of court as well.
If Qualcomm sold Intel a license, patent exhaustion would apply .... And even so, apple would be using a poor implementation from Intel.
Apple needed Qualcomm’s 5g modems or it risked falling behind the entire smartphone industry. They were never going to go to Huawei (privacy & security issues). And Intel obviously cannot deliver.
If the agreement includes a patent license, as it must, Apple is free to make their own devices. Given that Qualcomm is under antitrust scrutiny they couldn’t have required apple not to compete against them.
TLDR: Qualcomm won the war!
Apple and Qualcomm just kicked off a legal battle over unpaid royalty rebates in a San Diego court, but the case will be cut short as the two companies have reached a settlement.
Apple announced the news in a press release this afternoon. Apple says the settlement includes a payment from Apple to Qualcomm and a six-year licensing agreement for Qualcomm's technologies.
The settlement ends all ongoing litigation between the two companies, including with Apple's contract manufacturers. All companies involved have reached a global patent license agreement and a chipset supply agreement, suggesting Apple may be planning to once again use Qualcomm chips in its devices going forward.
The legal battle dates back to 2017, when Apple sued Qualcomm for over $1 billion in unpaid royalty rebates, accusing the San Diego chip company of anticompetitive patent licensing practices.
Apple in its lawsuit claimed that Qualcomm had "unfairly insisted" on collecting royalties for "technologies they have nothing to do with," while Qualcomm said that its technology is "at the heart of every iPhone. The original lawsuit spawned a bitter legal battle between the two companies, which led to patent disputes and import bans in multiple countries, all of which will now be resolved.
Apple had also stopped using Qualcomm chips in its devices due to the ongoing legal troubles, opting for an all Intel chip lineup in 2018. Recent rumors have, however, suggested that Apple's plans to use Intel's 5G chips for its 2020 iPhones may fall through due to Intel's production delays, which may have been a factor in Apple's decision to come to an agreement with Qualcomm.
Article Link: Apple and Qualcomm Reach Settlement, Agree to Drop All Litigation
Double dipping is against the law.
That’s what the trial was about.
But we weren’t talking about the law you were talking about market price, which has very little to do with the letter of the law and more to do with the law of economics.
Not a difficult concept to understand.
This gives Apple six years to develop their own chip. I don't think Apple wants to do business with these guys anymore but were forced to do so to keep up with the growing 5G market. Clearly, Intel is not meeting Apple's standards in their mobile chip demands.
Once they have their own chip, buh-bye Q!
Once they have their own chip, buh-bye Q!
Qualcomm sells the license first, then sells the hardware. Not the other way around.
Complete BS.
My post from the other day:
- In April 2017 Qualcomm and Blackberry had a binding arbitration case. Qualcomm lost and now owes $940 million to Blackberry. Since it didn't go to court, details are limited. What we do know is it was related to royalty rebates due to Blackberry over the number of devices sold. Which sounds eerily similar to what Apple is complaining about (with Apple winning a preliminary $1 billion against Qualcomm just recently).
- In June 2018 Qualcomm was fined $1.2 billion by the EU for antitrust issues arising from Qualcomm paying Apple money to ensure exclusivity in using Qualcomm modems. Just a week ago Qualcomm lost another part of their antitrust case by trying to prevent the handing over of data to the EU regarding their antitrust case.
- In October 2017 Qualcomm was fined $774 million by Taiwan's Fair Trade Commission for overcharging royalties for their cellular modems and IP. Qualcomm struck a deal with Taiwan and had their fine "reduced" to $93 million in exchange for investing $700 million over 5 years into Taiwan's tech sector. Several companies are still protesting this decision as Qualcomm wasn't forced to change all their licensing practices.
- In December 2016, South Korea fined Qualcomm $854 million for antitrust issues surrounding modem and IP royalty/licensing. Prior to this Qualcomm was fined $243 million way back in 2009 over kickback issues to cell manufacturers to use Qualcomm modems exclusively. This fine was lowered slightly to $200 million just last month.
- In February 2015 Qualcomm accepted a penalty of $975 million in China over violating anti-monopoly laws over - you guessed it, royalties and licensing related to modems and related IP.
- The FTC in the US just wrapped up a trial (now awaiting a decision) accusing Qualcomm of antitrust practices related to their modems and licensing practices.
- Apple and Qualcomm start their trial today regarding, again, over payment of royalties.
Qualcomm has been losing BIG TIME all over the world. It's beyond asinine to think Apple caved when Qualcomm is the one who's been losing literally EVERY SINGLE ANTITRUST CASE brought against them over their licensing practices.
Exactly. Qualcomm caved. They have lost so many times already that another loss (with Apple) would have been devastating. They can save face by striking a deal with the worlds largest tech company and continue to make money selling to Apple (though likely less money than before).
Great news. Apple should’ve just paid from the beginning. They have the cash on hand. I specifically bought an unlocked 7 Plus with the Qualcomm modem because it’s much better than Intel’s.
I love Intel but sadly they’ve really screwed up since around 2015. Everything has been delayed and underwhelming. I really hope they get their act together.
I love Intel but sadly they’ve really screwed up since around 2015. Everything has been delayed and underwhelming. I really hope they get their act together.
Oh, so double dipping in the reverse order make it legal? That's quite the leap...
My XS Max was intended to be a 4-5 year phone. It looks like I'll get the first iPhone that was new Qualcomm modems/chips. FU Intel.
...and let's be honest - Apple was at fault here and their greed was on full display. This thing didn't even last 72 hours.
...and let's be honest - Apple was at fault here and their greed was on full display. This thing didn't even last 72 hours.