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Apple and Samsung Agree to End Non-U.S. Patent Disputes
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And whole lot more. Typical strawman, pick one element, point out it's not a big deal (previous example: rounded corners). This would be true if it were the only design element copied, but it isn't. You're just ignoring all the other similar elements that when combined, result in a remarkably similar device.
Are you serious? A chamfered edge? I despise this company.
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You wont be upset with someone copying your work and stealing your intellectual property. Many of these countries complain about our IP laws but they do actually contribute to our ability to innovate here in the US. Other countries don't value IP probably because they aren't being innovative enough. If it affects them directly they'll sue just like any US based company. IP law it has it's uses.
Too bad it had to come to this. Samsung knew from the start that Apple would get nowhere suing them.
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I can't see myself buying an iPhone or any other smartphone in the future, so I don't really care about the smartphone consumers. I'd just love to see Samsung tank, the same way I'd love to see Conduit destroyed by a lightning storm.
But I suppose you could say that my skills as an iOS developer are under attack when Apple's marketshare is under attack. Sure I can deal with any language I want, but all those hours of figuring out how Cocoa and such work, plus the convoluted developer certificate system...
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Yeah, exactly. Look at smartphones before and after 2007. We take all the first iPhone features for granted today. I'm not even going to post that picture because I'm sure everyone here knows what picture I'm referring to.
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I can't see myself buying an iPhone or any other smartphone in the future, so I don't really care about the smartphone consumers. I'd just love to see Samsung tank, the same way I'd love to see Conduit destroyed by a lightning storm.
But I suppose you could say that my skills as an iOS developer are under attack when Apple's marketshare is under attack. Sure I can deal with any language I want, but all those hours of figuring out how Cocoa and such work, plus the convoluted developer certificate system...
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Yeah, exactly. Look at smartphones before and after 2007. We take all the first iPhone features for granted today. I'm not even going to post that picture because I'm sure everyone here knows what picture I'm referring to.
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Outside the US it has pretty much been a wash. No one has really won much. In the US Apple has two judgments in its favor. They are probably negotiating the final dollar amount and a cross licensing agreement, but aren't yet in a position to say anything.
Makes sense. When the lawsuits were launched Apple may have genuinely feared that Samsung would steal their lucrative high-end business. It is now clear that won't be happening, and Samsung is now sliding to irrelevance in a race to the bottom with Chinese companies that nobody's ever heard of. Soon Samsung will give up, opening way for them to retake their rightful place as a component vendor.
Sounds like Samsungs funeral then. The US is the only place they have consistently lost cases, in other parts of the world it has been far more split. If I was them I'd have said it needs to be in a reasonably neutral country. That said - who cares!
That's funny. Copying Samsung?? ha ha. Samsung is a master of all masters when it comes to copying.
I believe apple has had limited success with law suits outside of the US. Guess they will focus where they have a much better chance of getting a favourable outcome .
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Samsung are guilty of copying .
Though , If you bothered to pay attention to the industry that both apple and Samsung produce products you will realise that a lot of "borrowing" occurs from all parties involved these days.
This is not 2007 where everyone raced to produce their own version of the iPhone. The idea are running out and android/iOS/WP are borrowing each other's "functionality"
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I guess you have not heard if the galaxy S5. That's what the alpha looks like. I thought it was suppose to be S5 with metal instead of plastic.
Yes, but I think there is a bit difference between borrowing and blatantly copying.
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I been using galaxy s5 for few months and it doesn't look like that. The plastic frame around is not like that either. And these speaker dots on the bottom? Comm on now....if it wasn't for the home button I would have said it's the iPhone 5/5s
This argument is getting tiresome and the picture you're referring to is probably one with all the cherry-picked examples that conveniently omits pre-iPhone all-touchscreen phones like the SonyEricsson P800 and LG Prada on the "before" side and equally conveniently omits non-all-touchscreen phones like the HTC ChaCha on the "after" side.
I know Blackberry with their qwerty keyboards were big in North America but in many parts of the world they were not and before the iPhone there was an obvious trend towards bigger and bigger screens and less and less buttons. The iPhone may have leapfrogged the evolution but that doesn't change the fact that everyone understood this was where things were heading.
The all-touchscreen concept was not introduced by the iPhone (SE P800 is from 2001) and standard smart phone features like 3rd party apps and 3G connectivity were obviously not either.
Why? If I throw money at some problem, will I solve it? How e many lawyers were working on the next generation iPad?
Having said that, good news.
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ui, stores, etc.
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Every single flagship had qwerty. Every single high end device had qwerty.
The phones you mention were experiments, not the center flagships.
We have what we have today thanks to the iPhone. The iPhone showed the way. Multi-touch is what it is because of the iPhone. Operating systems are what they are because of iOS.
The only reason they have done this is because the rest of the world has common sense, it won't allow cases to be one by a sketch on some paper, it actually takes into account prior devices that BOTH companies have copied, I also think the courts are fed up with them.
But I also wouldn't be surprised if another reason is because the damages you can claim for are bigger in an American court.
Good news all round anyway, shake they won't stop all together.
But I also wouldn't be surprised if another reason is because the damages you can claim for are bigger in an American court.
Good news all round anyway, shake they won't stop all together.
Good news. These lawsuits are a drain on both companies. And it's looking like Samsung will gradually be less and less relevant in the areas Apple exists in and is heading.
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You have missed the sarcasm tag because you're just joking, don't you?
If I had to guess, I'd say Apple is only agreeing to this because they can much more easily hurt Samsung in other ways, IE, by having other companies produce parts for the iPhone.
My understanding is Samsung doesn't make much of a margin on their consumer products, so the real way to hurt them is to deny them sales in other product categories (IE, CPU fabrication, screens)
My understanding is Samsung doesn't make much of a margin on their consumer products, so the real way to hurt them is to deny them sales in other product categories (IE, CPU fabrication, screens)
BS, the P-series was SonyEricsson's flagship phones for several years before the iPhone was introduced. Only some of the later models had a qwerty keyboard IN ADDITION to the touch screen. The phones were fully useable as all-touchscreen.
Even if Samsung lose out to Apple on the smartphone market...
...they're still not going anywhere. Get real and believe me when I say that Apple has more chance of going bankrupt than Samsung.
The real threat is not Samsung but Chinese OEM's making cheap flagship's that cost a fraction of what both Apple and Samsung are charging. Both will share a common enemy.
The winner in the next round will be Android users. Apple does not know how to make cheap premium phones. I placing my money on Google.
The winner in the next round will be Android users. Apple does not know how to make cheap premium phones. I placing my money on Google.