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You know it is rediculous. With so many tech companies all the current day practical applications of technology are patent so any company that developed ANYTHING is violating something! Nothin should be made! That will solve everything!:rolleyes:

I can wait for someone to patent air, the English language, the use of air conditioning.....
 
I just can't with this... I just can't...
 

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Why are the requesters allowed to be anonymous?

To avoid retaliation via lawsuits, or cause other problems between companies, just for challenging a patent.

Are they sending it in anonymously or is USPTO masking them but have the records as to who send it in?

I believe that the party wishing to remain anonymous must retain a patent agent to file the challenge. The agent is known. Their client is not.

Filing an anonymous request does have some major downsides. For example:

  • Once requested, the anonymous party cannot participate in further discussions about the patent validity.

  • Also, there is no way to stop the patent holder from refining their claims to keep the patent valid.
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As an aside, I looked up this particular auto-complete patent. The challenge is over 340 pages, listing prior art.
 
Apple is just wasting their time with Samsung while the rest of Android is growing stronger by the day. Apple’s best strategy to penetrate India was to bring the 4 year old iPhone out of retirement and price it at a ridiculous amount for a third world country. That should tell you something about Apple right there.
 
Apple is just wasting their time with Samsung while the rest of Android is growing stronger by the day. Apple’s best strategy to penetrate India was to bring the 4 year old iPhone out of retirement and price it at a ridiculous amount for a third world country. That should tell you something about Apple right there.

thats the problem, Apple has to face two monsters with multiple heads

Apple owns its hardware and OS

Google owns Android for the most part

Samsung just provides Hardware

So add in around 4-5 major manufacturers and their own iterations of the current Android and they have a much larger uphill battle than anybody else.

I do however agree with your last statement.
 
To avoid retaliation via lawsuits, or cause other problems between companies, just for challenging a patent.



I believe that the party wishing to remain anonymous must retain a patent agent to file the challenge. The agent is known. Their client is not.

Filing an anonymous request does have some major downsides. For example:

  • Once requested, the anonymous party cannot participate in further discussions about the patent validity.

  • Also, there is no way to stop the patent holder from refining their claims to keep the patent valid.
--

As an aside, I looked up this particular auto-complete patent. The challenge is over 340 pages, listing prior art.

That's my point, how does USPTO prevent such parties from participating further if they don't know who requested it? It's not like they can just block the patent agent. How would that stop the requestor from getting another patent agent?

It seems as if it can be gamed easily. For an example, Samsung notifying the courts that the patents were being questioned and reviewed again, so it could be invalidated, so they should wait for USPTO to finish the re-examination (as a stalling method).
 
That's my point, how does USPTO prevent such parties from participating further if they don't know who requested it? It's not like they can just block the patent agent. How would that stop the requestor from getting another patent agent?

Once a reexamination is started, all further conversations are only between the USPTO and the patent owner. No one else can participate at all.

It seems as if it can be gamed easily. For an example, Samsung notifying the courts that the patents were being questioned and reviewed again, so it could be invalidated, so they should wait for USPTO to finish the re-examination (as a stalling method).

Perhaps, but Judge Koh has ignored requests to wait for the end of reexamination proceedings. As she puts it, if a patent is later invalidated by the USPTO, then the no-longer-infringer can ask for their payment back.
 
lol.. I'm confused how are Samsung going to claim on the macbook pro? The macbook pro, even in its current unibody form outdates anything from Samsung, am I not right? *_*....

:apple:
 
lol.. I'm confused how are Samsung going to claim on the macbook pro? The macbook pro, even in its current unibody form outdates anything from Samsung, am I not right? *_*....

I'm pretty sure the MacBook Pro is there because of patent 5,579,239 and Facetime.

Samsung had originally also included the newer Mac Mini and iMac, but dropped them later on. Perhaps in exchange for Apple dropping some of Samsung's devices.
 
I treat this more like a EULA...


I may understand it, but just choose to ignore it.... However, it's kind of hard to pass it up when MR keeps posting one i just gotta get in on the action.

Looks like both of these companies have a long battle ahead of them, if Apple's products date back to the 4S.

But don't worry Samsung, iPhone 5S will soon be on the list too, so there is some fresh blood for ya.. :rolleyes:

just think if Apple were suing every android manufacture.... we'd may as well set out camp outside.
 
Then you should be patenting everything that's so obvious cos you could be making a small fortune.:p

:confused:

I mean things like pinch to zoom or swipe to turn pages or other actions that were already available in the non digital or touch screen world but just applied to that. (excepting the things that sound obvious only after someone has told you about it, like the tape on the end of laces or a paper clip)
 
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