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Most NEW car stereos come already installed in NEW cars. Add those into your calculations. Also, really look at all of the new car stereos instead of just the one you bought and tell me the percentage.

The auto manufactures aren't always at the head of the curve, and are usually sucking the hind teet, if you haven't seen that from the recent goings on.
 
If you have to upgrade, I believe Apple was forced for accounting purposes to charge something for giving you a higher quality product. Although my ears couldn't tell the difference between 128 and 256 kbps, I'd still do it for the following reasons.

1. Decouple your iTunes Library from DRM. You won't have to worry about authorizing computers. Probably a few DRM orphans will be missed but no big loss.

2. Higher bit rates. Better quality. m4a's are better than mp3's.

3. Ability to use with other Mac Software.

4. Ability to use with other devices (Zunes, :D) . Either convert AAC, m4a's to mp3's or get devices that recognize m4a's.

5. A lot more devices now have incentive to recognize m4a's since there will be many more (billions) than m4p's. This is a firmware upgrade that will probably happen pretty quickly.

6. I think iPods and iPhones are the best but the lock in is done. More competition for devices, this will spur Apple as well to stay on top. Not that they are not already.

7.) Every college kid in the world will download A song and distribute it for free to all their friends. Welcome to 1999 and this thing called Napster.

I just don't get why the record labels want DRM removed! Sure, it can play on other devices, but is it worth the amount of illegal file sharing that might take place.
 
7.) Every college kid in the world will download A song and distribute it for free to all their friends. Welcome to 1999 and this thing called Napster.

I just don't get why the record labels want DRM removed! Sure, it can play on other devices, but is it worth the amount of illegal file sharing that might take place.

Because DRM hasn't really stopped illegal file sharing. DRM cost them money, There is the future legal problems and legacy issues of people that purchase DRM tracks, what right does the label have to stop supporting them?
 
7.) Every college kid in the world will download A song and distribute it for free to all their friends. Welcome to 1999 and this thing called Napster.

I just don't get why the record labels want DRM removed! Sure, it can play on other devices, but is it worth the amount of illegal file sharing that might take place.

News flash: illegal file sharing already takes place!
 
when itunes plus first came out it was at a better compression level, is this still true? if not why upgrade all my music. Seems silly i have an ipod and i'm not planning on getting a zune or other crappy mp3 player so the DRM doesn't really effect me. Only if it was at a higher bit rate would i consider it.
I suppose it's just a matter in peace of mind, that there's no barrier hindering you in sharing music with your friends/colleagues.

@ frankly.... it wouldn't hurt to MERGE all your quoted replies into one post... no benefit in posting 7 straight times reply to only one quote each. There's a nice little button to the right of the "QUOTE" button in all posts. That could help a lot.
 
The FAQs say that you will not be able to upgrade these files.

Yep, confirmed, none of my free singles of the week came up when I clicked in to check the damage.

As for the damage, only $24.50! I guess I clung to CDs longer than I thought. (Or maybe I went Napster crazy in 1999, and still listen to that stuff)

Still, I'm going to let all of you guys get the bugs out before I do this.
 
i will upgrade too but i think i have only 2 albums that are the old itunes format. i made sure never to buy 128kbps drm stuff.
 
Thanks AAPL for reeming we the consumer once again. Making the consumer pay 1/3 of the price of the original product, just so they can use said product anyway they want. Ingenious.. and you make us feel great about it!!!
 
Finally. Goodbye Amazon MP3, hello iTunes again.

And here's my groundbreaking prediction: we'll see a lot more songs priced at $1.29 than at $.69. Record label weasels...

Well, that's easy: Goodbye itunes, hello Amazon MP3 again.
 
7.) Every college kid in the world will download A song and distribute it for free to all their friends. Welcome to 1999 and this thing called Napster.

I just don't get why the record labels want DRM removed! Sure, it can play on other devices, but is it worth the amount of illegal file sharing that might take place.

That will happen regardless of DRM. They may as well save money and score brownie points with consumers by removing the system.
 
The site check what you have ordered in the past and will put back music u may have deleted.

Also, I didnt see my U2 box set i got back in 2005 get updated. I moved it to my MBP from my old Dell with a USB memory card, don't know if that makes a difference but i have over 400 songs and it only cost me $10 to upgrade to PLUS.

What a pain in the ass, now I have to go back into my library and delete songs I previously purchased and re-delete them again.

The U2 Complete probably didnt upgrade because its not all eligible for iTunes Plus yet.
 
Does anyone know if the DRM 'upgrade' replaces trashed music files?

edit: just done it and it does! so if you've ever lost tracks on you can now get them back at a big discount (assuming they used to be DRMd)
 
I am upgrading now... $250. Please don't judge me. :)

Anyway, it is putting EVERYTHING I have ordered that is now available back on my computer. Stuff I have deleted or moved off, and stuff I got for free from promotions (like the Pepsi code one).

THe issues I have with Complete U2 is that their albums (U2's) are now available in iTunes plus, so it kinda sucks I get screwed by buying the compilation since I can't upgrade the albums. I have an email in to iTunes about it. I'll report back with the response.
 
The auto manufactures aren't always at the head of the curve, and are usually sucking the hind teet, if you haven't seen that from the recent goings on.

I don't know about this. I got a 2008 Ford Fusion last year with SYNC and it is pretty advanced. I just plug my iPod Classic into the USB port in the console and I run it by voice. It also runs my phone on a Bluetooth connection with voice commands. Sure the technology is from Microsoft, but it works well with the iPod. I have never put a CD in the player since I have owned the car.
 
Still a rip-off...Amazon is cheaper

Yeah I've now bought my last 10 albums off of Amazon. Bought Coldplay's new EP for $.99 (yes the entire EP) a couple of weeks ago. And Snow Patrol's new one for $5.00 yesterday.

And to quote someone I saw on another thread:

"I paid $9.99 for an album I bought last week, now I have to pay another $3 to get iTunes Plus quality. $12.99 now. Rather, I buy the same album today, and it is $9.99....what a rip-off"

Couldn't agree more.
 
How poorly did Phil introduce this as a one last thing?

THE last thing for them at Macworld aswell...

for shame
 
Thanks AAPL for reeming we the consumer once again. Making the consumer pay 1/3 of the price of the original product, just so they can use said product anyway they want. Ingenious.. and you make us feel great about it!!!

Don't do it if you don't like it. It seems pretty simple to me.
 
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