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List price for new Apple products rarely drops past list price very quickly. I think that is part of the reason for dropping the 5. They can call this a new product and keep the margins crazy high.

This is a new Apple, we can see with the laptop this year that Apple can be very aggressive with pricing to prop up sales. Further part of the reason off contract phones are high priced is to push people into carrier contracts. I'm certain that Apple works with the carriers to establish pricing schemes so that everybody wins. Everybody here being the businesses involved.
 
People will get androids in a faster rate than ever now..
Apple is really doing it all wrong now! Really sad.

This I'm afraid is a turning point in history. Apple have lost their chance to regain ground for good.
 
I'm sure there are still enough stupid people to buy a few iPhone 5Cs... but how many?
 
Y'all don't get it.

Apple moved us from $1,400 Macbooks to $1,000 Macbook Airs.

People pointed to $300 PCs and said "why not that?" Well, because that's not what Apple's after and it's not where they'll ever go.

This is the same thing.

Who will buy this? Probably the same people that spent all this year buying the iPhone 4S and all last year buying the 4 and the previous year buying the 3GS. Apple sold a LOT of those "last year" phones. Some people think they're half of all iPhone sales. And now you're gonna tempt those same people withe a BRAND NEW candy design? Jeez, this thing is gonna break sales records.

You can pretend those people don't exist all you want, but Apple's not ignoring them.

It's not for me. It's not for you. It's not for hardly anyone here.

Never forget that none of that really matters.


no YOU're getting it all wrong. At this price point no one will want this phone. there are too many compromises in relation to the price difference between the S and C. People will go after the 4s and the second hand 5. On the other hand, this move allows for less canibalization of the 5s given that the alternative is now on a different casing.

In the end, apple's market share will remain the same, profits might go up (but just for a bit) and the consumers get the illusion they are being given more options, when in reality they're not..
 
And even the 4S is still $450. Completely insane, it's like they finally gave in on cutting some corners to save a bit of money but then forgot to drop the price. Why would anyone buy the 5C/32 when the 5S/16 is the same price and offers so much more?

The extra 16GB may be important to some people.
 
Iphone 5c should be the unit to get new apple buyers to join in the ecosystem.
Price should be at $350.

The problem is that would kill the flagship phone and their profit margins. So Apple is refusing to do it and probably has little reason until their revenues stall out.
 
US$549 for 16 GB and $649 for 32 GB for unlocked and contract free. I've said this before but WHAT market are they targeting with the iPhone 5C that the 5S doesn't already cater to?

That's crazy. I was thinking it would be $300 entry level. How will these sell in India or China?

Got my eggs in the Nexus 5 basket now....
 
Every time I look into one of these I find reports of drastically slower speeds or people who get dinged for roaming out of their primary coverage area. (Or no facetime or tethering or etc. etc.)

Basically, it always seems that "half the price" comes with a catch which is hardly surprising.

I use Net10 and I love it, if you play by the rules you don't get cut off, and the savings add up, very fast!
 
Really annoyed by this. As a strictly off contract person I was expecting to get an iPhone 5C for around £250-300. But £469 for a 16GB. I just can't afford to pay up for one of these.
 
Total fail at $550. Unbelievable. The only thing more insulting is the pricing overseas (equivalent of $800+ in Europe!?!) Not since the days of Alexander Graham Bell has a telephone cost so much.

Apple had better impress with the ipad/mini this year or else no purchase for me. I'm already sticking with my non-smartphone due to this ridiculous pricing (although a $200 Nexus 4 is a future option--I could buy almost 3 of them for the same price as the 5C). I will consider an ipad or mini if they can improve and no I don't mean a useless fingerprint scanner. IOS 7 to me looks like nothing more than pretty colors and I liked the old skeuomorphism. It had better offer some improved functionality and the ipad/mini will need to have a substantial refresh or else Apple is in serious trouble. I thought Steve Jobs supposedly left them with a roadmap for the next several years??? Maybe the only thing was the ipad mini.... let's hope they can deliver on that now.
 
$549 for a 16gb 5C???

This is a big mistake - sure they will sell a lot, because people will buy anything Apple - but take a $299 iPod Touch (in aluminum) and add the LTE/Cellular for $130 (the same add on an iPad) - and they could have sold this in 32gb configuration for $429 and still made money.

I completely agree, waaaay too expensive for something that could be much cheaper without cannibalising the 5S sales.

Now the 5C is still more expensive than an iPad, I don't get Apple!!!

They should think numbers, because in the end the whole ecosystem (iOS) would greatly profit the more users are on it. (more profit through the app-store, itunes-store and ibooks store)

They did the same with the ipod, when they realized that they needed to lower the prices of the hardware to subsidize it with high absolute sales in the itunes store and it worked great!!!

In my case, I will still replace my iphone 4 with the new 5S, but my plans to get an 5C for my girlfriend are now in the toilet!!! I will buy her a nexus 4 to replace her old galaxy... sorry apple, missed a chance to increase your customer base!

In the end, the market will punish apple for its mistakes! Phones are mass-market communication products and their platforms get better the more people use it! Running with the exclusivity image here is a major mistake in the long-term while on the other hand apple is pricing their ipads much better against the competition!
 
That's crazy. I was thinking it would be $300 entry level. How will these sell in India or China?

Got my eggs in the Nexus 5 basket now....


I just grabbed a nexus 4 since I wanted a cheap entry into the android market. If I like it I will pick up a 5 in 6 months and sell my 4 (probably get back a good portion of what I paid for it).
 
Off contract price is ridiculous. Glad I moved to the Nexus 4 a few months ago. I won't consider another iPhone until I can get one for $399 off contract, at most. Apple already lost me as an iPhone customer, and if they keep this up, they will never get me back. They just don't offer that much extra value to justify the extra cost.

Might as well say bye to iPhone forever then. Apple has never and will never play in that space.

Everyone, bar one guy here, seems to forget that Apple hasn't done anything new here. They are selling last year's phone at the same price they always have. The aluminium chamfered chassis was too expensive to make their margins on the 5, so they had to make it a different way to get there. So they came up with the 5C. Gave it mostly last year's tech with an improved front camera, and then selling it at the same price point as they always have.

The "low cost" aspect of the rumour was a completely failed and misguided guess by the media trying to put two and two together with Apple imminently moving in China, an "emerging market," and Apple simultaneously developing a second model of the iPhone to be released in parallel with the annually updated flagship model.

This was never meant to be low cost or meant for "emerging markets." It was meant for what it was always meant for - a huge subgroup of people that buy on contract but don't want to spend more than the equivalent of $100 up front.

The sense of entitlement on here is utterly ridiculous. If you all don't feel it is worth it, you are perfectly free to take your money elsewhere, or if you love the platform, buy a second hand 5 or get the 4S which is still available and free on contract, especially since you all feel that the value for money is not there on the 5C. Apple is not twisting your arm here.

I, if anyone is interested, will be keeping my 5 and upgrading to the 6 when the time comes. It should be an amazing machine, might even get that 4.5 - 5 inch screen! The 64bit architecture on the A7 with native OS support for it is going to push these machines to whole new levels in the next couple of years, and I am due for an iPad upgrade - will inly be a tough choice if the mini gets both the 64bit A7 and retina display, otherwise it will be the iPad 5 for sure.
 
You're so wrong that you actually belong on Apple's board making these ignorant sales decisions. Congratulations.

You've got to think like the people who you're so positively speaking for.

There was never any shame in owning last year's model when it's successor was already out. You wouldn't feel wrong about getting a previously flagship model out in public. It could be thought you had owned it from it's release.

Where this is different is now it's plain for all to see you've not been able to afford the negligible difference between the two, you've hit you're financial limit. iPhone is a status symbol and the C takes away all the status and the cost doesn't outweigh this loss.

Anyone who I saw walking around with a 5C I would seriously question their judgement and ask them why they couldn't find the extra £80 on top of £459.

Point well made.
 
Apple claims there are some hardware upgrades. Looks like more LTE bands and a better front camera…is there a full list of things that are supposedly better than the 5 anywhere?
 
no YOU're getting it all wrong. At this price point no one will want this phone. there are too many compromises in relation to the price difference between the S and C. People will go after the 4s and the second hand 5. On the other hand, this move allows for less canibalization of the 5s given that the alternative is now on a different casing.

In the end, apple's market share will remain the same, profits might go up (but just for a bit) and the consumers get the illusion they are being given more options, when in reality they're not..

All of your arguments remind me of the iPod Mini naysayers. Remember, it was "way too expensive for what you got" as well. "Sure it has colors, but it's a WAY smaller hard drive!" is what techies said.

And by "Techies," I mean people who put a lot of weight on internal tech specs and almost none on how it looks. You may recognize that viewpoint as the opposite of the average consumer, as a great many tech-writers learned after the iPod Mini came out.

You all seem to be under the impression that a plastic colored back is a detriment this phone has to overcome. But it's actually an asset for a great many people...worth extra money in their minds.
 
The naysayers are of course, already hard at work.

While I think the colors are pretty bad (as somebody else said, not terribly masculine, any of them), I think they'll sell well to children and females who don't care about specs (which let's face it, is most of them).

As for pricing, this is exactly what I expected, and Apple will sell these like delicious hotcakes. Maybe not so much in the US or Europe, but certainly overseas in emerging markets, which is the whole point.
 
Why would anyone buy the 5C over the 5S? - It relies on hooking in myopic credit loving consumers to buy a new phone for a smaller upfront cost, but still being locked in on an expensive 2 year contract. If we assume $75 a month, the difference between the $99 5C and $199 5S, may seem 50% cheaper, but over the 2 years period the 5% saving seems rather small in perspective. Such is the way our fiat currency fuelled economy works today.

Was really hoping to see something like the Nexus 4 pricing, where you can buy one for like $199 with no contract. I'm not sure why the 5C exists otherwise.

That's so weird, I see the exact opposite, why in the world would anyone pay the extra money for a 5s which is (in the mind of the average consumer) the same phone? I don't think the credit fever among the public means they think logically - they'll see the upfront sticker price and think, "hey this iPhone is half the price, but there's no difference between it and that expensive one, so I'm going to buy it and save $100 *today*!" If they save $100 tomorrow, they wouldn't notice it, but saving them that much money today I think they'll take the deal (the 5c) and then go plop that money on upgrading to a bigger television on which they can watch more reality tv shows<wry grin>.
 
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