That's what I'm hoping to do. I'm going to find out for sure tomorrow. I don't care what kind of phone the free one is, as long as it has bluetooth. Then I can finally trash my bluetooth nextel and use all of the programs like BluePhone Elite with the free phone.
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That's what I'm hoping to do. I'm going to find out for sure tomorrow. I don't care what kind of phone the free one is, as long as it has bluetooth. Then I can finally trash my bluetooth nextel and use all of the programs like BluePhone Elite with the free phone.
from AT&T s site....
Share minutes and save. Get the first two lines for one low price. Each additional line is just $9.99 per month.
their policy has always been a la carte...you add whatever service you want to each line...text messages, data, etc. So 2 iPhones would add $20 each for data, assuming you have an existing plan... or a new 'family plan' for as low as $109 sharing 700 minutes (two iPhones)...so, a single iPhone with a regular phone would be $89, assuming no additional features for the second phone... edit in red
you might be able to...but where is the benefit? you won't have two lines or two sims...are you planning on switching them constantly?
Right, see Sprint makes you get txt for each phone so I am just wondering if AT&T is doing the same.
Can't I just use the phone as a remote to change songs in iTunes using Salling Clicker without a SIM? If not, then I'd just sell the phone or give it to my wife.
It's pretty close, but it depends on if you want unlimited N/W or 5000 (which is a lot). Combined, you'd have 200 more total daytime minutes, but only 5000 N/W... So, for 10 bucks more, you'd get 100 more daytime minutes per phone and limited (although huge) N/W minutes. Another thing to consider is if your minutes get used up in an even balance between the two... In some situations, the combined makes more sense, where one phone gets used a lot more than the other.
So, I guess it comes down to if you need unlimited N/W or not... On ours, we have a couple of teenagers using them that burn up the time on N/W, as well as the free anytime mobile-to-mobile. I wouldn't be surprised to see them use up 5000 in a month easily.
On this one, my sister, my dad, and myself are sharing 3 lines on a family plan... My sister's phone (with the teenagers) uses up way more than 1/3 of the total minutes, but my dad's phone hardly ever gets used, so she can in effect use his unused minutes. If you have one phone using up way more minutes than another of the two, then family shared will help (although the posted family plan combines for less than two individuals).
Another example of how your mileage may vary... Being existing, we can keep renewing our 850 shared minutes for about the same price as the new 700/family.
This is for iPhone plans? That's the going rate for their current voice only, non-iPhone plans.
it's alot of money a month...but look what you're getting
hope those deals transfer to australia
hope those deals transfer to australia
you are correct...but the $9.95 is for the line and $20 is for the data for a new iPhone...hence the $29 for each additional iphone line.
It does work. I just did that exact thing tonight. I had to pay $10 for a phone but I figured it was worth it.
The phone won't boot up w/o a SIM card. It will ask you to insert a SIM card before it's able to load any application, etc.
As far as I've ever seen.
AHHGHGHGHG! I guess they will make me put the SIM in from the free phone into the iPhone?
Yeah, but you'd think if you are paying for 2 iPhones, you'd get a little break on the data bill. You buy more quantity, you pay less per unit. That's the way it should work.
So do you use your mobile minutes when you go on the internet, YouTube, or when your phone is checking e-mail?
I think MBHockey already answered this question, and he's right. It's just a flat $175 fee, and if your monthly plans are cheaper than the $175 contract termination fee, just wait it out and then cancel.
Ooops, um, yeah, forgot about those tricky "land lines". Us New Yorkers don't have 'em, our mobiles are normally our land lines.
AT&T web site update
Check out the newly updated iPhone section of the AT&T web site: http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/specials/iPhone.jsp
The FAQs (Before You Buy section) help answer many of the questions I've seen posted here.
Check out the newly updated iPhone section of the AT&T web site: http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/specials/iPhone.jsp
The FAQs (Before You Buy section) help answer many of the questions I've seen posted here.
You are 100% right.
To do an investment like, $600+~$100/mo*24 mo = $3,000 with no way to switch carriers or use it outside US (I am not talking about AT&T roaming).
And on that slow molasses network. Yeah right. I would just buy a maxed out MBP
Thanks OP.
Some interesting stuff from http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/iphone-faqs.jsp
Q. Is iPhone eligible for Wireless Phone Insurance?
A. No. iPhone is ineligible for the Wireless Phone Insurance program offered to AT&T customers. iPhone is covered by the Apple Warranty. If you have Wireless Phone Insurance from AT&T, it will be removed from your line of service.
Q. Are business customers eligible for discounts?
A. No. iPhone service is available only to consumer accounts. iPhone and associated wireless service are not eligible for corporate discounts.
Activation
Q. How do I activate iPhone?
A. You activate iPhone in a whole new wayusing iTunes right on your computer. All you need is a PC or Mac, a credit card or debit card, access to the Internet and an email address.
The credit approval for your AT&T service also happens on your computer. Its part of activating through iTunes, but if youd rather have your credit pre-approved before you leave the store, an AT&T store representative can help you with that.
You will also select an available plan during activation.
Q. Does iPhone work out of the box?
A. No. iPhone must be activated before it can be used. iPhone includes a pre-installed SIM card for your convenience.
Q. How long does it take to activate iPhone?
A. Most activations should happen within a few minutes of selecting your plan. If there are any questions around your account status or credit, there may be delays in activation.
Existing Customer Questions
Q. How do I upgrade to iPhone?
A. Just go to an AT&T retail store, and mention you're replacing your existing phone. Our salespeople will help you through the process and answer any questions you have.
Soon you'll be able to upgrade through myWireless online.
Q. Do I need to switch to a different rate plan if I upgrade to iPhone?
A. If youre an existing AT&T (formerly Cingular) wireless customer, you just need to add an iPhone Data Plan. (This may replace your current data plan. Your voice plan will stay the same) The iPhone Data Plan gives you Visual Voicemail, as well as Unlimited Dataincludes both email and weband texting, all for as little as $20. You'll add an iPhone Data Plan during the activation process.
Q. Can I add iPhone to a FamilyTalk plan?
A. Yes. Just go to an AT&T retail store, and mention you'd like to add a line to an existing account.
Q. Do I need to switch to a different FamilyTalk rate plan if I want to add iPhone?
A. No. You might want to upgrade your minutes since you are adding an additional line.
Q. I just upgraded my phone recently. Are there any penalties or restrictions for upgrading to iPhone right away?
A. No. Everyone can upgrade to iPhone right away.
Q. What if I currently have a GoPhone?
A. You will need to activate iPhone on a new account with a new phone number.
Q. I'm an existing customer. Can I swap out my current SIM card and start right away?
A. No. iPhone must be activated befroe it can be used. iPhone includes a pre-installed SIM card for your convenience.
Return Policy
Q. Do you have a special return policy for iPhones?
A. Yes. Apple branded equipment is covered by a 14-day return policy and must be returned to the original point of purchase. If the Apple branded equipment is returned unopened and in the original shrink wrapping, it will be refunded back to the original payment method. Opened Apple branded equipment that is returned within 14 days will be subject to a 10% open box restocking fee. All products must be packed in their original, unmarked packaging including any accessories and manuals that shipped with the product.
Some interesting stuff from http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/iphone-faqs.jsp
Q. Is iPhone eligible for Wireless Phone Insurance?
A. No. iPhone is ineligible for the Wireless Phone Insurance program offered to AT&T customers. iPhone is covered by the Apple Warranty. If you have Wireless Phone Insurance from AT&T, it will be removed from your line of service.
Q. Are business customers eligible for discounts?
A. No. iPhone service is available only to consumer accounts. iPhone and associated wireless service are not eligible for corporate discounts.
Activation
Q. How do I activate iPhone?
A. You activate iPhone in a whole new wayusing iTunes right on your computer. All you need is a PC or Mac, a credit card or debit card, access to the Internet and an email address.
The credit approval for your AT&T service also happens on your computer. Its part of activating through iTunes, but if youd rather have your credit pre-approved before you leave the store, an AT&T store representative can help you with that.
You will also select an available plan during activation.
Q. Does iPhone work out of the box?
A. No. iPhone must be activated before it can be used. iPhone includes a pre-installed SIM card for your convenience.
Q. How long does it take to activate iPhone?
A. Most activations should happen within a few minutes of selecting your plan. If there are any questions around your account status or credit, there may be delays in activation.
Existing Customer Questions
Q. How do I upgrade to iPhone?
A. Just go to an AT&T retail store, and mention you're replacing your existing phone. Our salespeople will help you through the process and answer any questions you have.
Soon you'll be able to upgrade through myWireless online.
Q. Do I need to switch to a different rate plan if I upgrade to iPhone?
A. If youre an existing AT&T (formerly Cingular) wireless customer, you just need to add an iPhone Data Plan. (This may replace your current data plan. Your voice plan will stay the same) The iPhone Data Plan gives you Visual Voicemail, as well as Unlimited Dataincludes both email and weband texting, all for as little as $20. You'll add an iPhone Data Plan during the activation process.
Q. Can I add iPhone to a FamilyTalk plan?
A. Yes. Just go to an AT&T retail store, and mention you'd like to add a line to an existing account.
Q. Do I need to switch to a different FamilyTalk rate plan if I want to add iPhone?
A. No. You might want to upgrade your minutes since you are adding an additional line.
Q. I just upgraded my phone recently. Are there any penalties or restrictions for upgrading to iPhone right away?
A. No. Everyone can upgrade to iPhone right away.
Q. What if I currently have a GoPhone?
A. You will need to activate iPhone on a new account with a new phone number.
Q. I'm an existing customer. Can I swap out my current SIM card and start right away?
A. No. iPhone must be activated befroe it can be used. iPhone includes a pre-installed SIM card for your convenience.
Return Policy
Q. Do you have a special return policy for iPhones?
A. Yes. Apple branded equipment is covered by a 14-day return policy and must be returned to the original point of purchase. If the Apple branded equipment is returned unopened and in the original shrink wrapping, it will be refunded back to the original payment method. Opened Apple branded equipment that is returned within 14 days will be subject to a 10% open box restocking fee. All products must be packed in their original, unmarked packaging including any accessories and manuals that shipped with the product.
Since they aren't giving us anything what about getting a cingular phone from amazon that has like a $150 rebate and $0 upfront, then you could get the $150 and go ahead and replace the phone with the iphone once you pick one of those up, since there is no conditions to upgrade to iphone, if you pay the 500/600. I wonder if this idea would work, or if the rebate would end up not going through?
Why can't they just give us $10 off a month for 1-2 years, if you're a new customer? That is what they should do.
Why can't they just give us $10 off a month for 1-2 years, if you're a new customer? That is what they should do.
Exactly....
On watching the video and seeing the Pricing Plans I'd already worked out that the price difference between and iPod and iPhone was 250$ and that I'd need the 80$ Plan + SMS = 100$ a month!
I suspect that a lot of buyers are going to wake up on the 30th with a (financial) headache. And we're not the first to see this - the big airtime providers have been pumping stories into the UK press this week. For example take this one from the broadsheet 'Telegraph in the UK;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/06/27/niphone127.xml
Finally I know nothing about the US Pricing Plan market but if Apple's trying to push European airtime providers into minutes carry-over then no-wonder they're having trouble finding a supplier.
If one calculates the retail value of the cumulative expired minutes and divides that into the 'suppliers annual profits we'll see they make half their money by not having carrying-over.
It take more than hype to compel an industry to rebuild it's collective business model, not even Apple hype! It takes a quantum leap to do that, and iPhone is not a quantum leap (yet).
You are 100% right.
To do an investment like, $600+~$100/mo*24 mo = $3,000 with no way to switch carriers or use it outside US (I am not talking about AT&T roaming).
And on that slow molasses network. Yeah right. I would just buy a maxed out MBP
On watching the video and seeing the Pricing Plans I'd already worked out that the price difference between and iPod and iPhone was 250$ and that I'd need the 80$ Plan + SMS = 100$ a month!
I suspect that a lot of buyers are going to wake up on the 30th with a (financial) headache. And we're not the first to see this - the big airtime providers have been pumping stories into the UK press this week. For example take this one from the broadsheet 'Telegraph in the UK;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/06/27/niphone127.xml
Finally I know nothing about the US Pricing Plan market but if Apple's trying to push European airtime providers into minutes carry-over then no-wonder they're having trouble finding a supplier.
If one calculates the retail value of the cumulative expired minutes and divides that into the 'suppliers annual profits we'll see they make half their money by not having carrying-over.
It take more than hype to compel an industry to rebuild it's collective business model, not even Apple hype! It takes a quantum leap to do that, and iPhone is not a quantum leap (yet).