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This was probably the most useless update during the whole keynote.

This app adds absolutely no functionality that we don't aldready have in the other HomeKit apps. Nothing other than the app, in regards of HomeKit, was brought to light during the keynote. HomeKit needs work, it needs a LOT of polishing...what does Apple do? They present an app. An app that doesn't do anything more than the existing apps already do.
 
Is there information anywhere that shows all the different hardware available that has home kit integration?

I want to do garage doors, lights, blinds and front door but would like to find some information on what brand is he best to go with.
 
Is there information anywhere that shows all the different hardware available that has home kit integration?

I want to do garage doors, lights, blinds and front door but would like to find some information on what brand is he best to go with.
there are several sources but most driven by snapshots in time, of whatever the blogger prefers or like.
If you are in the US I suggest you to go to Best Buy and browse around some of the products they offer.
Home Depot have theirs, as well as Lowes.
The race is very fragmented with different communication protocols. I prefer Wi-Fi.
I was kind of tired of waiting and a couple of months ago I end up buying the Arlo (by net gear) cameras which requires a bridge, its wifi.
A couple of FLIX wi-fi light bulbs (no bridge).
And some Lutron light switches with a Wi-Fi bridge.
I already had a Honeywell thermostat that also controls humidity and have a remote portable sensor for temp control.

For those complaining about Apple's App, I think it's a past due move they should had released when HomeKit was. They will continue investigating with real customers data how the systems are used and what are the pain points to then improve it.

May main issue when choosing components and bridges and solutions is having to settle with compromised functionality and needing several isolated bridges with different apps to control things.

The Cybersecurity and integrity as well as upgradability without the need to pay for a monthly fee are still a concern.

If the HomeKit standard enables seamless integration of all the hardware offers in the market then the Apple App should be the consolidation solution, again if the bridges from the hardware manufacturers are no longer needed and the AppleTV or HomeKit hub can handle the I/O securely to control them.

What 3rd party apps do you guys use?
 
Really looking forward to toss the Philips Hue app completely. Even though their new app is much improved compared to the old one, this just seems so much more natural and intuitive to me.

I'm more sceptic about whether I would actually be able to set the same automatic scenes according to time, wake-up lights and everything without having to relay on the Hue app.

Don't wait for this app to be your new app of choice, go and see some of the amazing apps third party developers have made. Some you pay for, so,e are free, some have in app purchases that you may not need (2nd bridge for Hue lights with the iConnectHue app for example - I'm guessing you won't need that if you still use the Hue app and having sought out an improvement), others let you try and app before paying to unlock all features.

The official Hue app has fewer functions than many of the it'd party apps, and Philips themselves promote other apps from within their own app so expect you to find others.

Give iConnectHue a go - it has your timers for sunset and sunrise, animations, allows your to thoroughly customise the Tap and Dimmer switches and lots more.

For the best simple app to just get on and use your lights you need to look at HueMote - that's free.



I've been looking forward to this. I'm cautiously optimistic that I'll be able to get rid of all the device specific apps and just use the Home app to control everything. Device manufacturers should only have to focus on the hardware, not have to develop apps, which most are terrible at and result in a mishmash of design language and control methods.

I've mounted my iPad Air to the wall as a central console for my home and this app is coming at just the right time to become the interface.

I wouldn't bet on it, take a look at the MyHome app and Home apps for something to replace several apps, Elgato Eve does a good job too and is free (the previous two are not cheap but if you've spent money on smart home tech it's cheap enough).

I'm sure the new HomeKit app can control everything, but to what extent we will have to wait and see. If we can't delve into the full workings of the product then the app is useless, I want to be able to control scenes with lights, not just turn them on and off.



I look forward to use this one and get rid of all other apps.
In case anyone in the forum knows and can elaborate on these questions:
1) Are the HomeKit compatible hardware possible to set up without the manufacturer bridge and instead use the AppleTV?
2) Will this mean we can circumvent manufacturer limitations in their software apps, e.g Arlo limits the quantity of cameras to a maximum of 5, therefore they want to force you to subscribe for a monthly fee if you want more cameras. I hope this app will help us sty on control of things if they are HomeKit compatible.

As I said above, it will need to do a lot to replace all apps. Don't stick with the manufacturers apps anyway, go and see what's available. You will need to pay, but then that's usually the case for quality.

1 - Apple are releasing an app, not a hub, that is simply not going to be an option. If the manufacturer could have controlled their kit with an app they wouldn't have put the hub in and could have saved a lot of money. So,e may be able to use an Apple TV but many work on systems rather than just taking a wifi signal. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see it happening, at least not with a lot of the thermostats that have a box to control the system, and Hue Lights.

2 - probably relates to one. Not all limitations are accurate anyway, and for so,e there are workarounds. With Hue lights they say you can connect 50 devices, people have connected 70, after that you just plug in another Bridge although at the moment on the iConnectHue can manage multiple bridges.



just wish more manufacturers were allowed into the HomeKit tent

I thought this was about Apple taking security serious and wanting to ensure any product was safe and reliable for the home before slapping their mark on it - could be wrong though. Plenty of rubbish coming to the market in the guise of 'smart home' - and a lot of it I wouldn't want near my house. If it's not trustworthy then it shouldn't be certified. The discussion about garage doors opening because you drive by is a perfect example. One incident of that happening and property stolen and Apple lose all credibilitywith Homekit surely. I wish there were not options, but I also want to ensure stuff I rely on is reliable.



This was probably the most useless update during the whole keynote.

This app adds absolutely no functionality that we don't aldready have in the other HomeKit apps. Nothing other than the app, in regards of HomeKit, was brought to light during the keynote. HomeKit needs work, it needs a LOT of polishing...what does Apple do? They present an app. An app that doesn't do anything more than the existing apps already do.

I tend to agree. We do need more global apps, and I don't mind Apple developing one, although I'm confident it won't be the app to replace all other apps - not at first anyway. I would like them to work wih manufacturers to develop more products. Don't try to make a thermostat, or a garage door, or a lighting system, or a cat flap, or an audio system, work with companies who know how to make those items really well and help them to make their product really make a difference in a connected home. Both sides win, and we get great products we can rely on.

I don't think the app is a bad idea, it's just that it isn't the priority, and doesn't change the fact we are waiting for more products.
 
This all looks promising for the disabled.

I am blessed to still have the use of my fingers, so I am able to use conventional light switches. Good to see Apple accommodating the handicapped, though.
 
I'm sure the new HomeKit app can control everything, but to what extent we will have to wait and see. If we can't delve into the full workings of the product then the app is useless, I want to be able to control scenes with lights, not just turn them on and off.

Craig Federighi specifically showed off Scenes. I already use Siri for most of my HomeKit controlling but I've been waiting for a visual UI from Apple and this appears to be it.
 
This all looks promising for the disabled.

I am blessed to still have the use of my fingers, so I am able to use conventional light switches. Good to see Apple accommodating the handicapped, though.

This have been possible for a looooong time.

The Apple Home app won't add anything new that hasn't been available through third party apps for months and months.
 
"As I said above, it will need to do a lot to replace all apps. Don't stick with the manufacturers apps anyway, go and see what's available. You will need to pay, but then that's usually the case for quality.

1 - Apple are releasing an app, not a hub, that is simply not going to be an option. If the manufacturer could have controlled their kit with an app they wouldn't have put the hub in and could have saved a lot of money. So,e may be able to use an Apple TV but many work on systems rather than just taking a wifi signal. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see it happening, at least not with a lot of the thermostats that have a box to control the system, and Hue Lights.

2 - probably relates to one. Not all limitations are accurate anyway, and for so,e there are workarounds. With Hue lights they say you can connect 50 devices, people have connected 70, after that you just plug in another Bridge although at the moment on the iConnectHue can manage multiple bridges. "

If the HomeKit standard enables the interaction with the hardware devices, sensors and actuators, to respond to the App commands then there will be very limited hardware need for bridges. Actually there are lightbulbs that work directly with the iOS App, they are either Bluetooth which limits the usage when out of the home unless you have some kind of bridge; and Wi-Fi ones like FLIX, kind of similar to the Phillips Hue, I have a couple of them and they work great.
If the Apple Home Hub, future AppleTV or whatever name they give it, can talk all the protocols (or key ones) then there is no need to have any other bridge. The main killer for a wide spread adoption is the business drive behind forcing the customers to sign up for a monthly fee. Which some prefer to pay apple for a "reasonable' fee that gives you a sense of security. But I do always prefer to buy the hardware and not pay for a monthly fee. also data mining and intrusion to your home is another aspect that the general public seem to not care too much (Facebook, Google, etc.). nest was a promising company to make a significant impact in the home automation race but after Google bought them it went down in my list.
Interesting times are coming and I hope Apple delivers something good. Hopefully they don't limit it to Siri and the Apple Watch.
 
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