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Apple Announces New iPad Pro With M4 Chip, OLED Display, and More

polaris20 said:
The thing keeping me from spending a ton on another iPad is that I just can't load my software on there. There's no Superior Drummer for iPadOS. While some of that's been alleviated with having Logic Pro (and FCP) now on there, it's still an issue for me.
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I agree with this so much. I think macOS is a lot better for professional apps like Logic Pro & Final Cut, I just can't see an iPad replacing it.
 
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At $1300 + Tax for 11" Pro with keyboard, I wish Apple would offer a 11 or 12" MB again. The new iPad Pro is impressive if you make your living in the arts (or architecture) but, given the current state of iPadOS, I can't see myself spending that kind of money again on a Pro _keyboard setup.
 
FlyGuyDEN said:
What part of "I never sat on it" don't you people understand? It was NEVER SAT ON...it resided in my pack pocket from time to time and began to shape to fit my @$$.
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You may have skimmed over the part where I said (as an example) "simply bending down to tie your shoes, over and over and over" will lead to contortion of the iPhone.
FlyGuyDEN said:
Stop trying to blame me when a LOT of people had issues with "Bendgate". FFS.
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Mostly people who put it in their back pocket. I'm glad Apple increased reinforcement in later generations, but you're putting electronics in your back pocket so maybe be frustrated less with Apple.
 
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PaperMag said:
You may have skimmed over the part where I said (as an example) "simply bending down to tie your shoes, over and over and over" will lead to contortion of the iPhone.

Mostly people who put it in their back pocket. I'm glad Apple increased reinforcement in later generations, but you're putting electronics in your back pocket so maybe be frustrated less with Apple.
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I never said I was "frustrated" with Apple. It's just the Reality Distortion Field doesn't extend to physics...and that phone bent for a lot of people just from being in their back pocket. After it happened twice I stopped putting it in my back pocket. Luckily Apple took care of me. We had had no reference for that in the past with regards to behavior on where NOT to put it...my iPhone-iPhone 5S never had that issue. And clearly, it was a thing-the iPhone 6S was thicker.
 
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satchmo said:
Some have suggested it has to do with location of magnets.

But that would simply mean you can’t charge the Pencil. I would think you could still write with it? 🤷
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Yeah I am guessing it works but doesn't charge. Meaning you have no way to charge it outside of owning an old iPad it charges with also. Would explain it being listed as not compatible.
 
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PaperMag said:
On QD-OLED vs Tandem OLED...

  • QD-OLED isn't "true" OLED. The light source is made of blue OLED diodes, and in front there is red and green micro-crystals; combined they produce an RGB image. Problem is there is no polarizer layer, so black levels become dark grey in bright ambient light (LTT video example); and the odd sub-pixel arrangement is sub-otimal for text clarity.
  • Tandem OLED is "true" OLED because it has all three RGB OLED diodes—plain and simple—producing both the light and the color; plus what makes it "tandem" is there are two layers of RGB OLED to increase brightness while using less voltage per diode (which is going to minimize burn-in of static content like the menu bar). The sub-pixel arrangement is optimal for text clarity.
  • WOLED is what happens when you add a white sub-pixel to RGB OLED. The white sub-pixel adds brightness to the image, but it takes a small hit in color space and color accuracy compared to the rest; and pixel arrangement of WRGB is sub-optimal for text clarity.
As far as I'm concerned, LG Display's Tandem OLED is now the best mainstream consumer display on the planet and that is what Apple is using in the M4 iPad Pros.

Tandem OLED > QD-OLED > WOLED

PS: Samsung is upset that LG Display took their business, so Samsung are dedicating a team of engineers to compete and win Apple's business back. And Chinese OLED manufacturers are also improving and trying to win bids with Apple, so the writing is on the wall that this is the future of displays. You will see this come to MacBook Pros in 2026 and regular OLED (not Tandem) to MacBook Airs in 2027.

PPS: It's going to be a long time before Apple brings Tandem OLED to external displays, but LG is in mass production on a 27-inch 5K @ 120Hz panel with 2000:1 contrast (a feature called IPS Black) that hmmm...sounds like it would fit in an Apple Studio Display version 2.
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You do realize this is Samsung Display’s sub pixel structure right?
 

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That OLED display is going to be awesome.

That said, this class of device has completely left behind its original intent of being a couch device made for comfort that's reasonably priced.

At these prices and with the tech they put in nowadays, they really should be running something more complete than ToyOS. But as we all know, that would eat into the sales of macbooks so not happening. No new version of ipadOS is going to challenge this since it's a business goal not to cross that threshold.
 
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I keep looking on the AT&T website to see if the new Pro is up for order and it's not. Their rep had zero clue about the new iPads when I called to ask when it would be available to order. I'll keep checking but if anyone sees it go up for order can you reply to this?
 
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Well, considering I use my iPad to read books, I’ll stick with the kindle white’s. That’s all it’s good for, with no software integration aside from iPad os I’d rather buy a Mac 😒
 
RedCloud2017 said:
That OLED display is going to be awesome.

That said, this class of device has completely left behind its original intent of being a couch device made for comfort that's reasonably priced.

At these prices and with the tech they put in nowadays, they really should be running something more complete than ToyOS. But as we all know, that would eat into the sales of macbooks so not happening. No new version of ipadOS is going to challenge this since it's a business goal not to cross that threshold.
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WWDC '24 here we come 🤞
 
FlyGuyDEN said:
I keep looking on the AT&T website to see if the new Pro is up for order and it's not. Their rep had zero clue about the new iPads when I called to ask when it would be available to orderer. I'll keep checking but if anyone sees it go up for order can you reply to this?
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Will do if I see it.
 
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gleepskip said:
I'm souring on incremental updates and their impact on the environment. Self-proclaimed responsible stewards of the environment shouldn't manufacture barely-different products in a saturated marketplace.
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incremental updates only hurt the environment when people update every generation. at these prices the percentage of users who do so become vanishingly small. the majority of folks updating to the iPad Pro are coming from devices they purchased 4-6 years ago (or longer.) I used my 2018 iPad Pro for 6 years, and its the fact I bought the high end model that was "overkill" back then that directly led to me be content enough to hold on to it for many years before upgrading today to the new iPad Pro.
 
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