It's not just a different way, it's also productivity for different tasks. iPad is not a viable replacement for Mac.
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Apple Announces New iPad Pro With M4 Chip, OLED Display, and More
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In fact, yes it is. Take a look at oled vs lcd tv's power. Like actual tests from rtings. The "because the pixel is off when it's black" will save tons of power is bs.
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I am not saying I would buy one. Lol.
Pretty happy with my Oled Tab s9 11" I got for around $300 with trade and paid about the same for the previous tablet. So for the cost and what I use tablets for I could never justify $1k for a tablet so I can stream videos.
But for those who are used to paying $799 for a much less device than the new OLED M4 iPad Pro so for extra $200 you get Oled display and M4. Retail price for tab s9 is $699 which is a lot less but still for $300 more I think a lot of Apple users will see the value.
Obviously in a few months there will be discounts, specially on the base models so maybe looking at $200 off at Best Buy which would make it much closer to Tab S9 MSRP.
But Apple is pricey. However with this tablet it should run for years and if AI chops are good enough even that can evolve. So I don't see the price as crazy. It is expensive but so are all Apple products.
The question isn't is it expensive but are you willing to pay that much for a tablet? If you are an artist it would be justified and my son is a digital artist and this would be a dream machine for him.
I did order the 13” ipad Pro with 1TB SSD and 16Gb of RAM. I found it odd that the various sizes of SSD did not seem to specify the locked in RAM size per SSD size Maybe I missed it. I called Apple sales, and as far as I could determine 16GB of RAM was the limit even with a 2TB???
Correct, 1TB and larger sizes get 16GB of RAM - this has been the case since the M1.
Also since the M1, no apps on iPadOS can actually use near that amount of RAM so it is generally a waste of money.
Apps can access up to 12GB of physical RAM, and use swap memory for more than that. Seems about right since other things like he OS will be using RAM while you are in that app.
The Files app combined with DropBox and iCloud is pretty sweet. I don't miss a full filesystem all that much.
Just made a purchase 5 mins ago: Space Black iPad Pro 256G + keyboard + new mini stick
my last iPad is Air 5 from 2022. Get AUD400 back with trade in.
Days of using iPad: 365 days a year.
Days of opening my Macbook Air: less than 30 days a year.
I decided not to buy anymore new Macbook.
my last iPad is Air 5 from 2022. Get AUD400 back with trade in.
Days of using iPad: 365 days a year.
Days of opening my Macbook Air: less than 30 days a year.
I decided not to buy anymore new Macbook.
The USB-C cable with the space black is colour matched, I’m not sure that’s been available before?
I think Apple did a great job with this update. I have a feeling that in a generation or two they'll add an always on display and I'd rather wait to get that. I have an iPad Pro 2020 with Magic Keyboard that I'll continue using.
I can understand the point of the 13inche 16 gb of ram for photo audio apps but then what is the point of the 11' with again 8gb ram? watch movies and surfing only?
Nice update, but my 2017 iPad Pro 10.5” still plays YouTube videos flawlessly so I guess I’ll wait another year.
I got a very good trade in value for mine which is the only reason I ordered a new one. I did want to move back to 13 inch. I love the 11 inch especially for travel but I use my iPad mainly for art apps and a second monitor so 13 inch makes sense for me. I used to have a 12.9 inch but never realized how much I'd miss that extra screen real estate.
"Copium" is when you don't, can't, or won't admit what happened.
I was in a car crash. I could have been killed, and indeed, almost was.
The person who hit me was going the wrong way on a toll road. One doesn't "just make a wrong turn at Albuquerque" in order to go the wrong way on a toll road. In order to hit me, he would have HAD to have found a fully unique way of entering the roadway, or he would have had to do an illegal u-turn.
He must have also entered at least one toll gate going in the WRONG DIRECTION. You don't just do that by an "oopsie". He was either drinking or was high. I was barely able to avoid the accident being a head-on crash, which probably would have killed both of us.
As it turns out, I had serious injuries, but thankfully those have healed. We'll see if they come back in 30 years.
I kid about the iPad being bent because it's so ludicrously funny now in hindsight; especially in all my years of owning Apple iPhones and iPads, this nearly deadly accident was the only thing where one of my Apple devices got bent. My Apple pencil had also flown off of the iPad and I couldn't find it in the wreck afterward. So I did have to buy a new Apple Pencil.
I do wonder if the battery or screen will suddenly or gradually fail one of these days.
And I know very damned well that I could have died. At the hands of a drunk or high person. I think I have earned the right to make fun of "bend gate" in every possible way I can, and that's what I aim to do. I know that it takes a 70 MPH crash, a few spins 'round and 'round, and an unfortunate ending into a guard rail to bend an Apple device, so there it is.
Welcome to my version of the "Teacup Ride". Please keep your seatbelt on at all times, and keep all hands and feet inside the ride until the ride has come to a complete stop and the airbags have deflated. Thank you for spinning with us today!
Just keep it the same thickness and make the battery thicker. Why is the Pro thinner and lighter than the Air?
I guess a better question is why do we even need an iPad Pro? I have one and I ask myself this all the time. I hope we get some serious updates at WWDC. It needs to at least run a scaled-back, sandboxed version of macOS when connected to a mouse and keyboard.
For now I’m thinking about downgrading to an iPad Air in the future when my M1 iPad Pro dies off. Which the battery seems to want to do…
I guess a better question is why do we even need an iPad Pro? I have one and I ask myself this all the time. I hope we get some serious updates at WWDC. It needs to at least run a scaled-back, sandboxed version of macOS when connected to a mouse and keyboard.
For now I’m thinking about downgrading to an iPad Air in the future when my M1 iPad Pro dies off. Which the battery seems to want to do…
Overall, I thought this was a nice release. Having the base 11" model (and giving us 256gb) at $999 I thought was quite reasonable, especially given how much inflation has raised prices for everything in the last few years. Maybe the rumors that it could be much more set the expectation high!
- Like many things Apple, the storage upgrade prices are what get you. The base models are much better "value". If you are one of the users who have specific needs to have significantly higher storage, the "bang for buck" gets considerably worse very fast. 11" - $999 for 256gb, $1599 for 1TB, $1999 for 2TB. Is the 1TB/2TB versions worth 60%/100% more cost? Most people would say no... Like Apple does with the MBA/MBPs with both memory and storage upgrades, you really pay for it if you are in the relative minority who needs the higher spec.
- Folks outside the US (eg. Canada, Australia, Europe) in general have it pretty rough, as Apple typically prices it in local currency at a bit above the FX-converted price at time of release. And in general, it's a bad time as USD has strengthened quite a bit in last 2 months as interest rate-outlook has pivoted with likelihood interest rates staying higher for longer. That doesn't change the effect that you earn what you earn in local currency. So effectively it could be a more substantive price increase for many internationally.
Although I'm eager to upgrade my 2018 11" iPad Pro (still going strong!), I think I will likely wait until WWDC to see what Apple has in store for iPadOS 18. And whether something big is coming that will allow the use case of the iPP to be significantly different than what it is today. Like many have said, the iPad has been OS-limited in capability for awhile now, not hardware. That will probably help drive what configuration I end up going with.
- Like many things Apple, the storage upgrade prices are what get you. The base models are much better "value". If you are one of the users who have specific needs to have significantly higher storage, the "bang for buck" gets considerably worse very fast. 11" - $999 for 256gb, $1599 for 1TB, $1999 for 2TB. Is the 1TB/2TB versions worth 60%/100% more cost? Most people would say no... Like Apple does with the MBA/MBPs with both memory and storage upgrades, you really pay for it if you are in the relative minority who needs the higher spec.
- Folks outside the US (eg. Canada, Australia, Europe) in general have it pretty rough, as Apple typically prices it in local currency at a bit above the FX-converted price at time of release. And in general, it's a bad time as USD has strengthened quite a bit in last 2 months as interest rate-outlook has pivoted with likelihood interest rates staying higher for longer. That doesn't change the effect that you earn what you earn in local currency. So effectively it could be a more substantive price increase for many internationally.
Although I'm eager to upgrade my 2018 11" iPad Pro (still going strong!), I think I will likely wait until WWDC to see what Apple has in store for iPadOS 18. And whether something big is coming that will allow the use case of the iPP to be significantly different than what it is today. Like many have said, the iPad has been OS-limited in capability for awhile now, not hardware. That will probably help drive what configuration I end up going with.
This is incomprehensible nonsense. I can't even figure out what you might be trying to say here.
Just in case you actually meant something like what you said: Processes going forward will CONTINUE to put MORE transistors per area than previous processes... in general. However, as has been the case in the past, some specific processes will relax certain design rules (making things a few % larger) in exchange for better manufacturability (lower cost) or better performance.
N3E (the M4's process) is marginally less dense than N3B (used by the A17 & M3) because it relaxes design rules somewhat. This buys marginally better performance (though FinFlex complicates this a lot, so you could perhaps wind up with an even denser design, though likely at lower performance), but more importantly lowers mfg cost and cycle time by a substantial amount. N3P will be denser, while N3X will be slightly less dense. But those are all offshoots of N3E. The next major node, N2, is coming in 2025, and it will be substantially DENSER than any N3 variant. And the next process after that (A14? I forget what they're calling it) will be denser yet.
Meanwhile, reticle size will not decrease (in case that's what you were thinking about).
Interesting notion about the AVP. I don't think you're right about that - it would obviously be easy to respin it with an M4 instead of an M2, without doing much else - but it's definitely a plausible argument that they don't want to do that.
Um. That's a tasty looking word salad there, but it's sadly deficient in meaning. Once again I'm not going to try to guess what you're shooting at with the first part. As for "consume things like third-party in-chip parts"... are you talking about them buying IP blocks from other vendors like Renesas or Synopsys? Because AFAIK they aren't buying anyone's designs for anything on the SoC, nor have they since they moved to their own GPUs. And they certainly aren't going to be buying more in the future. They are constantly bringing MORE design in-house, not less.
No, not processing power (in the sense that that term is generally used, which is, something using the CPU, or possibly GPU/NPU). However it does need the new display engine.
Of course it's true. I wasn't fantasizing. I just used it a few weeks ago to scan in all my tax docs. However, as I wrote, that's on the Mac. They'd have to extend that feature to the iPad, and I don't think they have (though I haven't checked).
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Really smart move introducing the M4 with the new iPads, because comparing it to the previous iPad Pro generation's M2 is probably way easier than comparing it against an M3, which the iPads never had.
But even with that, there were still some of metrics where they didn't compare the M4 against the M2, sometimes even against the A11 Bionic. We didn't get a single comparison of M4 vs M3. Makes you think...
But even with that, there were still some of metrics where they didn't compare the M4 against the M2, sometimes even against the A11 Bionic. We didn't get a single comparison of M4 vs M3. Makes you think...
There are multiple M3s. But not in iPads. So they didn’t have data to compare.
This M4 will probably be low end M4 compared to forthcoming laptop and desktop ones as well. Apple designed this for iPad where speed is one thing but thermal load and battery life are also paramount.
All comparison values still show significant speed improvements.
And having an Air with M2 and AI show that MacOS is going to out AI on a lot of existing devices.