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Agree. I know everyone says to just get an external, but I still prefer to have at least 1TB internal SSD. $400 just for that upgrade totally kills the supposed savings of dropping it to $599.

entire point of cheap base model is thats its completely unusable for anything really and you will spend couple hundred bucks more on decent config

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Depends on your needs. If you don't need the GPU cores, the two extra USB-A ports, and the 10G ethernet, I think the mini makes more sense. The cores in the mini are faster and you get two more of them.
I tend to use Final Cut Pro occasionally, would I need the 19 core GPU or would the 16 be enough?

I previously had a 2019 Macbook Pro which had the Radeon Pro 560X, wondering how both GPUs would compare to it as that was good for me.
 
Really excited by the price of that base M2 mini. The base M1 MBA has served my family beautifully for over 18 months, so I’m one of those ppl who know it will work just fine IRL.

I’ve already got a nice external monitor. I might even treat myself (and my family) to a new Magic Keyboard with touch ID.

Is it possible to use a HomePod mini as an external speaker for a Mac mini? Does anyone do this?
 
So a new M2 Pro MacMini with 32GB RAM, 2 TB of disk and 10Gbit costs £2499 in the UK. But a base M1 Max Studio with 2 TB disk costs £2,599 and it will probably be faster. Doesn't sound like the M2 Pro Mini is well positioned to me.
 
The M2 Pro is certainly faster than the M1 Max chip on the CPU front. It is using newer cores. The Max just adds more GPU cores. We will need to see what performance tests say to get specifics.

We will probably see the Mac Studio upgraded to M2 X later this year. We'll have to see if the price holds or if they bump up the price. That base model Mac Studio with M1 Max is a great deal.

Excellent to hear the CPU is better, I hope the GPU is too for the price. I thought the Studio pricing was just right, but agree it’s now a good deal. I suspect the Studio will see a £500 price bump now. I look forward to the tear down of the new M2 Pro Mac Mini, great to see them bring the chip to the computer, bad to see its pricing.
 
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Most people will not need it. Unless you are connecting to a network that supports it and use it for transferring huge files across it.

Consumer routers, especially WiFi 7 ones coming out, have now got 10GB networking on board, and fibre broadband is only going to get faster. But it is an option which is good.
 
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I've been making do with my late 2012 27" iMac (3.2 GHz Intel Core i5) with 24GB RAM and 1TB SSD for quite some time, never quite compelled to make the jump until today. The Mac Mini was looking very tempting but knowing the M2 might be right around the corner had me waiting. So...

Mac Mini M2 with 24GB RAM (I do a lot of video editing) and 1TB SSD with extended keyboard, trackpad, and Apple Studio Display order placed. It's a lot of money but, after more than ten years using increasingly behind-the-times equipment, it made sense.

Now to see how blown away (or not) I am with the improved performance.
 
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So a new M2 Pro MacMini with 32GB RAM, 2 TB of disk and 10Gbit costs £2499 in the UK. But a base M1 Max Studio with 2 TB disk costs £2,599 and it will probably be faster. Doesn't sound like the M2 Pro Mini is well positioned to me.
Read the posts on prior pages - the consensus is that for many tasks (anything not GPU bottlenecked), the M2 Pro will likely be faster. And doing so at less than half of the physical volume.
 
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Exactly right
It's just to hit a low number on a model that basically nobody should buy

The real "base price" is hundreds more
I use a base M2 MBA with essentially the same specs as the base MM, and it works flawlessly for me. I am a typical consumer that has a mix of business and personal computer needs. My son just completed his bachelors degree with an older lower spec MBA that he used for 4 years. Not sure why people on this forum believe the base models are useless or no one should buy them.
 
Very useful for plugging in flash drives, which to this day, are still stuck on the USB-A standard, for some reason. Sure, you can find USB-C flash drives, but for whatever reason, 99.9% of flash drives are still using the USB-A standard, hence why you need it in a Mac Mini.
MBPs should include one. Pro machines should be useful, practical and versatile
 
entire point of cheap base model is thats its completely unusable for anything really and you will spend couple hundred bucks more on decent config

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And that is the same conclusion I came too long before watching Marques said it. That is why I play Apple's game and just buy the base model, always. If you check the trade in values, you get a tenth back on your upgrade purchase not only from Apple but also retailers. So a $200 memory upgrade will net you $10-20 extra dollars.

So even if 8GB is paltry and wears down the SSD more than it should, by the time the SSD is pretty much toast, it will be time to trade it in.
 
Agree. I know everyone says to just get an external, but I still prefer to have at least 1TB internal SSD. $400 just for that upgrade totally kills the supposed savings of dropping it to $599.
External drives are a pain to deal with. I use them for backups only. They’re also less reliable with NVMe blades, so I stick with the 2.5” SATA form factor which are slow. The NVMe enclosures from OWC always corrupt my drives. I won’t buy those anymore.
 
In Europe Mac Mini with M2 Pro is more expansive than Studio with M1 Max. And with the same 10GB ethernet is the difference even bigger. Weird logic. Or maybe some marketing for selling aging M1 Studios now.
Same in USA dude!
 
It was about time, glad to see a price reduction, maybe my old i7 can take a breath before retirement, just wondering if the M2 power can supply lacking RAM, I'd go for the 8GB one, the upgrade is too expensive at this moment in time, my i7 has 1TB SSD and 16GB ram and does quite well with LightRoom and basic PhotoShop, my guess is computing power will be a huge step forward even with the base model
 
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Holy Moly - that M2 Pro price and configuration is maybe the best value ever of a mac?

Edit - maybe the studio M1 Max entry still has that crown 🤩.

Yeah, and the refreshed M2 Max Studio will be an even better deal. The M2 Pro mini is not a good deal IMO, but the base model is. I think I’d recommend the base M2 with 24GB memory for most users. It’s a better buy than the old M1 mini with 16GB memory.
 
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entire point of cheap base model is thats its completely unusable for anything really
I can easily some writing and Office work, document scanning and light photo editing, browse the internet with a few dozen browser tabs open, listen to and convert music files on my baseline M1 Mac Mini. Watch YouTube video or my favourite Instagram influencers or even cable TV. It doesn’t even break a sweat on those adult video sites (I’ve been told).

And it feels fast, too.
That’s at least something, really,
 
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£400 for an extra 16GB memory is a shambles pure greed
Yep. I can get 64 GB of fast DDR-5 laptop memory for $300 from Crucial, fast enough that if PC laptops had quad-channel memory, it would be the same speed as Apple says the M2 Pro's memory is. Charging $400 for a 16 GB upgrade is borderline criminal.

The M2 Pro Mini would be my *PERFECT* computer - but that damn expensive RAM upgrade is ridiculous. I have a first-gen M1 Mac Mini I've been testing for server duties, and finally got everything just the way I'd like, but am port and RAM constrained. The M2 Pro, with four TB4 ports and available 32 GB RAM would resolve every remaining issue. But overpaying that much for RAM feels like being beaten up and having my lunch money stolen.

I know Apple always overcharges for RAM, but usually not by THAT much.

And Apple's trade-in value on my M1 Mini? $270. For one that if I went in to an Apple Store today to buy from their stock, would cost me $899. (16 GB model, the max they offered on the M1.)

Oh, and if you order now, it won't arrive until late February. In spite of the main Mini being available "Starting January 24." (Edit: Ah, apparently upgrading to 10Gbit Ethernet is what causes the delay. :-/ Any other configuration is available within a couple days of January 24; but the moment you add 10GbE, it jumps to late Feb.)
 
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God I'm really sick of Apple's obscene upgrade prices.
Here in Switzerland, to go from 8GB to 24GB is CHF440, from 256GB to 1TB is CHF440, from 1TB to 2TB is you guessed it, CHF440.
Sky-high prices that have no relation to the actual cost of the upgrade, scumbag pricing.

I'd happily upgrade my i5/32GB Mac mini but they can get f-ed.
 
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