Very close to pulling the trigger on this one, I wonder if they've addressed the fan and noise issues on some M1 Studios.
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Apple Announces New Mac Studio With M2 Max and M2 Ultra Chips
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The M3 Pro and Max SoC's won't arrive until Spring 2024, in my opinion.
The base Ultra M1 was 4k (I bought one). 7K for the Mac Pro seems right to me for someone in that market. I don't think it's out of line. It will probably also be a lot cheaper than the 2019 on the higher spec options. IMO
Also the base 2019 Mac Pro was 6k. USD.
Also the base 2019 Mac Pro was 6k. USD.
It's a figure of speech among humans, Mr. Spock.
How they compare it to faster than intel iMac makes me think they won’t be doing a 27 inch Mac which is a bummer.
Should be the same as the M2 Max, since it is the same SoC (just with two of them).
I doubt they’ll be very good. My 2019 27-inch iMac with i5 9600K and 64gb of RAM still works fine. It ran me $3K. Apple will give me something like $200 for it. Granted, this is not an M1 Studio that’s a year or two old. But Apple trade-in values drop fast. Better off selling the older machine elsewhere.
Totally. I put 64GB of RAM on my M1 Max Studio (Apple M1 Max with 10-core CPU, 32-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine) and it was totally worth it. I will say, that you should avoid my mistake and get AT LEAST 2TB of SSD. I only got 1 TB, and I'm already kicking myself because 1) it will have less TBW 2) it makes me ultra neurotic about what I leave on the drive, because I don't want anything to take up extra space.
Wondering the same! I did try and return two Studios back in the day, the horrible noise at idle was a deal breaker for me. I'll gladly consider a Studio as my next desktop if it features proper cooling this time.
My expectation -- would be great if I'm wrong -- is that the cooling solution hasn't changed and we'll continue to hear the same gripes. (I haven't watched the keynote but get the impression that this is basically an SoC update).
Just tell me they fixed the AWFUL whine/whistle with the updates to the Studio. I want to buy it, I need the RAM upgrade. But I don't want to keep going on with this whistle.
The Mac Studio form factor is just too good. I love mine, and hope they keep it around for a while
Maxed out M1 Ultra will get you $1500, less than 1/5 of the original price. Lower spec models can get you up to 50%.
Best hardware announced today by a mile! And a smack in the face of everyone who said they'd never update the Studio, how it was only a stop gap till the Pro came out.
Just ordered mine, June 13-15 delivery estimate. Got the base level Max 32 GB plus an SSD upgrade to 1 TB. Traded in a 2018 MacBook Pro for $405 so not bad overall.
Very happy with the purchase (except I wish it came in a darker color), but something seems wrong with Apple's pricing. I was considering the M2 Pro Mac Mini, which seems like a fine machine, but when you add the $300 12-core upgrade and $400 32 GB upgrade, it comes out to $2,000, the same as the base M2 Studio, which has all that in the base model, but also gives you 11 more GPU cores, a second video encoder, a second ProRes encoder/decoder, double the memory bandwidth, an SD card slot, 2 extra front-access USB-C ports, support for a lot more displays at higher resolutions, 10 Gb ethernet, and a better cooling system. Unless you really need some added portability, who is buying that configuration of the Mac Mini? It doesn't make sense.
Very happy with the purchase (except I wish it came in a darker color), but something seems wrong with Apple's pricing. I was considering the M2 Pro Mac Mini, which seems like a fine machine, but when you add the $300 12-core upgrade and $400 32 GB upgrade, it comes out to $2,000, the same as the base M2 Studio, which has all that in the base model, but also gives you 11 more GPU cores, a second video encoder, a second ProRes encoder/decoder, double the memory bandwidth, an SD card slot, 2 extra front-access USB-C ports, support for a lot more displays at higher resolutions, 10 Gb ethernet, and a better cooling system. Unless you really need some added portability, who is buying that configuration of the Mac Mini? It doesn't make sense.
Yep. I was so disappointed with the Mac Pro. Not only is it the SAME as the Mac Studio with SoC and RAM, but the price INCREASED! I thought the base price of the 2019 Mac Pro was a joke, now I am just laughing. $3,000. is PCIe really worth that much difference?
I know there is a VERY VERY long thread on the Mac Studio "loud", but does anyone have any information on the whine? Did Apple either silently address it with the M1 variants or was I just extremely unlucky that I had to go through 5 returns and STILL face the issue and just gave up?
I had a whiner M1 AS as well. Not even thinking about an M2 until I hear confirmation the noise isn’t present.
This upgrade is welcome, but the storage prices should have come down. I'm not surprised they are the same, but all memory prices have dropped so much lately that it is highway-robbery to go from 512GB to 2TB for $600. Even if you said they are the best SSDs by a mile, they don't justify that cost. You can buy a 2TB Samsung 990 Pro M.2 currently for $160 on Amazon, there is no way to account for a 4x price increase except that Apple knows you can't do anything about it (and I'm sure they have bulk pricing). I can go along with all the other upgrade options pricing, but storage is just too high in 2023. At least start the base model at 1TB or something.
(I'm aware I can just get a Thunderbolt 4 enclosure and have fast external storage, but it isn't as ideal especially spreading user files across two volumes.)
(I'm aware I can just get a Thunderbolt 4 enclosure and have fast external storage, but it isn't as ideal especially spreading user files across two volumes.)
Like I have said, I would prefer a "loud" Mac over this very faint whine/whistle I hear non stop. That is why I was leaning on getting a Mac Pro with the better fan system. But NOT at that price!
Not sure why the Mac Mini and Mac Studio couldn't be designed to have fans only power on when you need it like the MacBook Pros. The M1 chips are incredibly efficient and when you are just booted up, doing some lower power tasks whether its email, web surfing, heck even just a YouTube video, playing music, messaging people, these are all tasks plenty of people engage in that don't need a fan.
I tax the memory of my MBP a lot for work but it's mostly just data crunching, documents, etc. The fans never spin up, but I most certainly see a huge difference between native silicon and my old Intel MBP. In fact I've only gotten my M1 Pro MBP to spin its fans up by actually running a benchmark to force it to heat up.
I tax the memory of my MBP a lot for work but it's mostly just data crunching, documents, etc. The fans never spin up, but I most certainly see a huge difference between native silicon and my old Intel MBP. In fact I've only gotten my M1 Pro MBP to spin its fans up by actually running a benchmark to force it to heat up.