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Looks like a reasonable update aside from the absurdity that is soldered storage.
 
4-6 cores could be i5 or i7, right? Anyone know which it is? The clock speed is meaningless without knowing that detail.

Edit: They have both i5 and i7 options. Didn't realize it was already on their site. The article should've said this.
 
It’s ridiculous to compare a maxed out mini, which has twice as much SSD capacity and twice as much RAM, to a base iMac Pro.

When configured in the closest like configuration—i7, 1 TB SSD, 32GB RAM and 10GbE—the mini is $2,599. That’s not iMac Pro money (but of course the mini is no iMac Pro).

Notice how you completely forgot about the GPU? Or the 27" 5K screen? Or the included keyboard and mouse? If you are able to utilize a GUI OS without the use of a monitor, keyboard, and mouse, more power to you; if you aren't then please compare like with like.


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curious, and likely silly question. i have a mac mini late 2012, currently connecting to a thunderbolt display using thunderbolt (1 i believe, cable). for the new mac mini would i then use hdmi and would i still support 2500x1440?

Yes. HDMI 2.0 will support up to 4K @ 60hz.
 
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Core i7-8700B - 6c/12t

this is a mobile chip
 

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curious, and likely silly question. i have a mac mini late 2012, currently connecting to a thunderbolt display using thunderbolt (1 i believe, cable). for the new mac mini would i then use hdmi and would i still support 2500x1440?
Is it an Apple Thunderbolt Display? If it is, you would buy a Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter ($49) and use that instead - https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207266
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Core i7-8700B - 6c/12t

this is a mobile chip
They are all desktop class CPUs. Apple is using the FCBGA-21140 versions because they are soldered to the board instead of in a socket.

The Core i3 has to be a custom part, probably a variant that would be call the Core i3-8100B.
 
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Please give it a proper thought before answering. They TOOK 4 years and during that time mac mini received no updates whatsoever. Now, after 4 years we get this.

That was my point. They could have kept updating the mini gradually and arrive to this point as well. The 4 year gap was unwarranted and served no purpose rather than just pure lack of interest from Apple.

Most people don't seem to be thinking at all regarding this Mac mini release, they are just so happy they will defend Apple no matter how demonstrably wrong they are.
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These are completely different technologies. The prices are not comparable. The production processes are different. In the computer world smaller and faster cost more. SSD is both smaller and faster. Yes, Apple does charge a premium for their upgrades. They aren't going back to spinning drives any sooner than they will add a DVD drive or serial port.
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It would have been sweet had it grown a bit more, added a PCI-E slot or two and still offered a 2.5" disk option.

Um, it's not a 'premium' it's often twice or three times more other consumer PC companies (known brands) are charging for the EXACT. SAME. THING. Apple is now beyond the pale.
 
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That majorly sucks. I'm still bothered that mobile i5/i7 get the same marketing name as non-mobile. Huge difference. You always have to go find the exact model online to know what you're really getting.
 
That would be the "8700" not the "8700B"

WHY Intel!

Why must you compromise!

NO embedded options available!
The WRONG Device ID

NO VPro eligibility. NONE

The wrong sized package.
NO SIPP support.

No Boot Guard!
FCBGA1140 instead of FCLGA1151

4096x2304@30Hz instead of 4096x2304@24Hz over HDMI 1.4. That's gotta hurt!
 
Have a look here

i7 8700B @ 12 threads turbo with 65w limit throttles at 3200Mhz
 

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Notice how you completely forgot about the GPU? Or the 27" 5K screen? Or the included keyboard and mouse? If you are able to utilize a GUI OS without the use of a monitor, keyboard, and mouse, more power to you; if you aren't then please compare like with like.
Notice how you completely ignored my point that you over-configured the SSD and RAM on the mini so you could say it’s over $4,000?

You compared a maxed out 64GB/2TB $4,200 mini to the pricing of a 32GB/1TB $5,000 iMac Pro. That’s disingenuous and you know it.
 
I'm happy with the new Mini specs, even though they still rip us off with RAM and SSD prices. All models should already come with 16Gb RAM, IMO. No PC is sold with less standard.
So, to get what I want it will cost me $1199 which is basically the same as the current model but with a better chip.
256Gb SSD should also be standard. I guess Apple will never get over their high margins at any cost mentality.
I'd get the $799 model with the 256Gb SSD Drive and 16Gb RAM
 
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Samsung 860 EVO 500GB M.2 SATA Internal SSD (MZ-N6E500BW) $107.99
If you don't understand the difference between SATA and PCIe performance, perhaps you shouldn't be arguing specs. PCIe SSDs are very expensive compared to their SATA counterparts.
I just got a m.2 WD 1TB for $104 a week ago (abeit coupon mistake by Staples).

Doesn't matter, people are stupid enough to pay this all time high Apple tax to purchase inferior computers.
You too.
 
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Interesting info. The power profile is configurable; Apple may or may not supply more than 65W to the CPU. It depends on the capacity of the cooling system, environmental operating conditions, capacity of the power supply, the VRMs that supply the CPU and other factors. We won’t really know how the mini performs under load at various thread counts until it’s tested. But you’re likely to see similar behavior, i.e. reductions in clock speed as the number of cores/threads increases.

According to the article you linked it takes 120W to get the all-core turbo to 4.3GHz, and I’d suspect that’s not achievable on a continuous basis. But Apple specs 150W max power consumption for the mini so there could very well be sufficient headroom to keep from instituting a hard cap of 65W.
 
No SD card? No sale!

Hahaha. Actually i'll pick one of these up to replace my 5,1. I just need some usb external cases to move the 5 drives out.
 
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