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Apple Announces Project to Protect California Redwood Forest

36000 acres? This is peanuts.

Billionaire Patagonia founder bought and restored 2 million acres in Chile and Argentina in the 1990’s. Apple is a multi trillion dollar mega corp, The Redwood national forest is only 130,000 acres….Apple could pay cash for it just using pocket change.

The harsh reality is, runaway climate change will mean the end of these massive trees regardless. In a few short decades, they will all be gone except for a few specimens.

Want to know something funny? There are actually MORE Redwood Trees growing in the UK than there are in their native habitat in California. In the 1840s several Redwood specimins were brought from America and planted around England….the rest is history.
 
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CharlesShaw said:
Let's all boycott them until they find a way to give us what we want without using rare earth minerals.
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Just buy used. Hell, Apple should find out how to get the rare earth minerals from the mountain of landfill waste created every time they discontinue support for an older product. They can buy their own old computers used and recycle the materials
 
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turbineseaplane said:
This 👆

The reason they don't is "money from people upgrading" (lots and lots of it).

Look at all the chops they display with design on things like the Air. There is no way to convince me Apple couldn't make an amazing phone that had a detachable, user upgradeable/swappable battery. It wouldn't even be a visual appearance downgrade given how many people put their phones in cases.
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Meet literally any MagSafe battery.

Battery issue no longer holds as an argument. 🫢
 
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maxoakland said:
Just buy used. Hell, Apple should find out how to get the rare earth minerals from the mountain of landfill waste created every time they discontinue support for an older product. They can buy their own old computers used and recycle the materials
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Umm, they literally do that.

It's the lazy, selfish consumers tossing electronics into a garbage bin (yikes!) that is the problem, not anything Apple is or isn't doing.
 
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zahuh said:
Please someone educate me, why is this a bad thing in any way?
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Some people think trillion-dollar corporations are inherently damaging to nature and to society in general. Those same people are often skeptical when environmental initiatives are publicized by such corporations, viewing them as little more than PR.
 
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jimbobb24 said:
What are the rare earth metals doing otherwise? Like everything else they are just dirt until we figure out how to use them then they become a resource. They have no other purpose except the one we have created for them.
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What does have a purpose? And what is dirt? Does oxygen have a purpose? Carbon? Hydrogen?

I'm hoping this post was sarcastic.
 
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coolfactor said:
Umm, they literally do that.

It's the lazy, selfish consumers tossing electronics into a garbage bin (yikes!) that is the problem, not anything Apple is or isn't doing.
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That’s great! Maybe they should pay more to get more people to do it. And they could also make an effort to get the ones in landfills. They could contract with landfills to buy electronics left there or even just buy the landfill and find the electronics

So many possibilities, especially for a company with Apple’s money and power
 
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Does Tim have an Audi I wonder?
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csnwbd2251 said:
When it becomes politicized, then it is bad...otherwise this is great for the land and surrounding communities. Instead of carbon credits, they should consider tax credits for individuals donating to this fund.
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Yup, and if you gave blood and wear an “I gave blood” sticker…. then giving blood is bad. If you vote and wear an “I voted” sticker… then voting is bad. Absolutely ANYTHING you do good becomes bad as soon as you mention it. It’s called “csnwbd2251’s law”. 🤣
 
Protecting the environment is good, unless it's Apple doing it because they pollute by extracting rare earth minerals, they should be pushing to protect the environme-- 🤯
 
Good to hear about this. Not at all surprising to see Apple donating to protect the forests. Nice effort by Apple.
 
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topper24hrs said:
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Yup, and if you gave blood and wear an “I gave blood” sticker…. then giving blood is bad. If you vote and wear an “I voted” sticker… then voting is bad. Absolutely ANYTHING you do good becomes bad as soon as you mention it. It’s called “csnwbd2251’s law”. 🤣
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There can be a difference between just mentioning it and politicizing it, but I guess not according to "topper24hrs's law".
 
csnwbd2251 said:
There can be a difference between just mentioning it and politicizing it, but I guess not according to "topper24hrs's law".
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Dictionaries have been free for DECADES now! It’s amazing… literally anyone can figure out the difference between words like “politicize” and “publicize”. Best of luck!! Btw… if I could make a “law” named after me, it would be this: “any time anyone does literally ANYTHING, there will be randos that claim to be diametrically opposed to it- even if they only became aware of it 22 seconds ago & couldn’t have remotely formed a personal opinion on the subject yet”. Not saying it applies in this case- just thought I’d share! =)
 
maxoakland said:
I’m not really sure what point you’re making. It sounds like you’re trying to imply “we’ve been doing this for thousands of years so it doesn’t matter?”
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Did you see where I was quoting a post? The point I was making is that the OP was not really being fair to the whole story of "resources" and that the OP was almost making a straw man out of the lack of reasons why the resources shouldn't be used. So I was trying to provide the side that was omitted by describing that while the "resources" are indeed sitting there serving no inherent purpose, people take issue with HOW we get them not THAT we get them. Maybe give the whole thing another read?
 
StuBeck said:
Its not bad persay, but for a company who tried a green initative a few years ago and failed, its more a stepping stone than a completion. They could do so much more by allowing their devices to be more easily repaired, which they are getting better at, but still have a recent past that is quite negative about consumer repairs.
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What’s so hard about bringing you phone to Apple to get repaired. Make a appt and drop it off for about and hour. Simple. Your phone is fixed. Unless you have some black market parts in your phone from shady repair shops
 
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Ct applefan said:
What’s so hard about bringing you phone to Apple to get repaired. Make a appt and drop it off for about and hour. Simple. Your phone is fixed. Unless you have some black market parts in your phone from shady repair shops
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Nothing is hard, its the cost that is the issue.
 
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Ct applefan said:
Get AppleCare. It’s under $10/month. Phones are easy to drop a break. I see shattered screens everywhere. Cheap fix with AppleCare. And you get genuine parts.
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Does AppleCare cover extremely old phones? Does Apple repair extremely old phones?

That’s why being able to repair them ourselves is important. Being able to keep using products long after the company that made them doesn’t care is truly eco friendly. Because making new product is the least eco friendly part of the process
 
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