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Depending upon how you might be using it, I'd personally recommend waiting for the third party ecosystem to come up with some new options that are catering to this new form factor a bit
Allright good point, wait for new stuff for the new mini. There will be for sure many. Even an advice regarding brand is welcone. Thanks a lot for your reply.
 
What are your required ports? It'll help give some options.
I do not have any usb-c/thunderbolt compatible stuff, physically compatible.
Its either dock or cables/reductions.

6 usb-a ports, despite the mini having 5 ports now, i am still lacking 1 and I do not want to plug and unplug sd card reader for example, the mini would have too much worth for me to plug/unplug cables from it on daily basis.
 
So, regarding the Thunderbolt 5 ports on the Mac Mini M4 Pro: If Satechi / OWC releases an expansion hub that can be connected via TB5 / NVMe-SSD, is it viable to boot directly to a larger, fast external SSD - instead of Apple's onboard SSD? Would I notice a difference in speed? Gaming? Rebuke from the community? :cool:
 
This is pretty tempting, especially at the edu pricing.

I just wish Apple didn’t engage in such blatant price gouging with SSDs and RAM. I’d expect the ‘Apple tax’ to be 50%, maybe even 100% markup. But Apple is charging over 500% markup on RAM and storage upgrades. That’s just obscene.


For anyone who uses an external SSD, how is it? Are there any limitations or performance issues?

I’ve never owned a Mac before but I’m considering getting a Mac mini to complement my gaming pc.

Can I place my iTunes library on an external SSD? What about photos?

Also, is it possible to use the same external SSD for both a Mac and a PC? For example, can I load both my iTunes Library for a Mac mini and my Steam library for my gaming PC, and then use the same external SSD for both machines, or is that not possible?

Does anyone know the answer to this?
 
I have a 4TB high speed NVME SSD hooked up to my current Mac mini with thunderbolt 4 and I store everything on it as far as my personal files go yet somehow the internal 256 has filled up completely in a single years use from whatever apps store on it... incredibly frustrating.
I run a M2 Pro Base Mini 16/512. A 2TB NVME acts as my "home" directory. After about 18 months I'm still only using 139GB of the 500GB available. Try Grandperspective and the built in Storage Settings to find large files to delete. Also see
 
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I run a M2 Pro Base Mini 16/512. A 2TB NVME acts as my "home" directory. After about 18 months I'm still only using 139GB of the 500GB available. Try Grandperspective and the built in Storage Settings to find large files to delete. Also see
what do you do with your machine though? a lot of my storage hog is adobe and all its related system files
 
I think the base M4 Mac Mini at 16/256 is a perfectly good machine for most people, and it’s a fair priced way of getting a Mac at 599 dollars. I’m going to start recommending it to friends and family who don’t absolutely need a PC.
Agreed 100%! Mac Mini + 48”-55” Oled TV is an incredible value. I don’t see the need for an iMac only if someone prefers an all in one.
 
wait they really are thunderbolt 5? that def means a new studio display is coming
$1599 for a 5k, 600 nits, IPS display. Oh and 60Hz. Yes meant for photographers and not gamers, but even the Pro XDR is only at 60Hz. Why? The Studio Display sounds looks incredible, but falls short to OLED monitors similarly priced.
 
$1599 for a 5k, 600 nits, IPS display. Oh and 60Hz. Yes meant for photographers and not gamers, but even the Pro XDR is only at 60Hz. Why? The Studio Display sounds looks incredible, but falls short to OLED monitors similarly priced.
there are no 5k oleds... and oled burn in still scares me with static elements always on on a computer display
 
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$1599 for a 5k, 600 nits, IPS display. Oh and 60Hz. Yes meant for photographers and not gamers, but even the Pro XDR is only at 60Hz. Why? The Studio Display sounds looks incredible, but falls short to OLED monitors similarly priced.
Which monitors? The LG and asus oled 4k ones? Not sure which monitor to buy. The LG has a fan that can be noisy and the asus is quite gamey. Must be other good contenders for the new mac mini.
 
I have a 4TB high speed NVME SSD hooked up to my current Mac mini with thunderbolt 4 and I store everything on it as far as my personal files go yet somehow the internal 256 has filled up completely in a single years use from whatever apps store on it... incredibly frustrating.
I get along fine with my 512 internal w/4TB of NVME and 28TB of spinning rust on my M1 Mac Studio, the up charge for 512 is $200 so for $799 you get everything you need
 
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No they were not. They currently don't even sell headphones with the headphone jack, not even Airpods Max. It's a desktop computer without a decent speaker. So you connect it to speakers. If you want to use headphones, get an airpods, and that's their answer too. So it's weird to have the headphone jack on the front. And btw, they did exactly that with the mac studio.

Airpods work on Bluetooth, some years ago I had a bluetooth speaker that was like a second late from a video which was annoying. It was not in sync. Is this fixed in new bluetooth speakers or Airpods since airpods are bluetooth?
 
Agree they are "clean", but you're plugging in a dock and then plugging stuff into that!

Just build the ports into the Mac
It's a desktop computer

I have no clue why we celebrate making it all "minimal" and "small" and then all have endless threads about which dongles, docks, connectors, external drives, on and on, are the "best"..

...to get back functionality that should be built in

Doesn't everyone see the real story here?
By externalizing so many things, Apple is just cutting their own costs and offloading them onto us
Considering that they shrunk the case but managed to keep most of the ports is a pleasant surprise. Apple seems to be willing to add more ports in their newer models than in the Intel generations. Good.
 
$1599 for a 5k, 600 nits, IPS display. Oh and 60Hz. Yes meant for photographers and not gamers, but even the Pro XDR is only at 60Hz. Why? The Studio Display sounds looks incredible, but falls short to OLED monitors similarly priced.
The XDR is intended as a reference monitor for color grading in photography and video production and it is priced like other reference monitors. It’s never been priced or marketed as a general market monitor. For that scenario, refresh rate is irrelevant. Most gamers want higher refresh and lower resolution for fast response. Very different market. Those OLED monitors may have faster refresh than the Studio Display but most have lower resolution.

Now that Apple has TB5 and DP2.1 available we’ll have to keep an eye on this space to see if they bump up the resolution or the refresh rate or both.
 
Agree they are "clean", but you're plugging in a dock and then plugging stuff into that!

Just build the ports into the Mac
It's a desktop computer

I have no clue why we celebrate making it all "minimal" and "small" and then all have endless threads about which dongles, docks, connectors, external drives, on and on, are the "best"..

...to get back functionality that should be built in

Doesn't everyone see the real story here?
By externalizing so many things, Apple is just cutting their own costs and offloading them onto us

There's a bit of that. It's certainly a bonus to Apple that less ports on their devices = less cost / greater profit for them.

I think there's an aesthetic angle too though. Apple get to present a featureless paragon of perfection; it's up to the user to add the dongles and hubs that make it useable in real life. MacBooks with one or two USB-C ports created a cottage industry of adapters to provide SD, Ethernet, HDMI and USB-A ports. It's a design cheat to externalise stuff like this; it reminds me of the X360, where MS kept it relatively compact by using a huge external PSU.

Apple devices in general tend to be designed for the showroom rather than the real world. Their aluminium finishes look pristine, but are fairly easy to scratch, necessitating the use of cases for everything. It's the polar opposite of ThinkPads, which are bulletproof in comparison. Speaking of Lenovo, repairability is another angle to this. Again, arguments can be made (with increasing justification) that Apple makes repair difficult simply for profit reasons. But it's also the case that whenever it comes to a choice between shaving 1mm from a device's thickness, or using a layout / construction that makes it easier to take apart, they'll go for the former every time. It's all about the showroom - real life is your problem.

Apple is the sole hardware supplier to iOS and macOS. You can't go anywhere else (aside to Android / Windows), so their users tend to talk themselves into whatever Apple is offering. The "8GB of RAM is enough for anyone" farce is a great example of this. This self-soothing talk helps when 16GB is beyond your budget, yet people rejoice the moment Apple (is forced to) change their mind.
 
Not a fan of front ports. Would've loved a clean and tiny Mac mini box with no front ports. Many will be pleased. This is how it goes. Cool tech all the same.
Sure, permanent cables in the front ports are messy looking, but think of the positive: for that occasional plugging in something for a temporary sync or transfer: it would be so much more convenient than lifting up the mass of cables in back and plugging in the cable.
 
What do you need for edu pricing. Is an edu email enough or do they ask for current ID. Asking for a friend wink
 
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