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I’m interested in trying one out at the store. The older Magic Keyboard I’m using now for the 13” Air is a very different experience from the 11” M4 Magic Keyboard and I kind of like the keys better on the 13” Air (even if it’s an older keyboard and $350 … which I coughed up back in January).

White only and no keyboard backlight kind of kills ever picking one up. The old keyboard works just fine.
 
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I’m interested in trying one out at the store. The older Magic Keyboard I’m using now for the 13” Air is a very different experience from the 11” M4 Magic Keyboard and I kind of like the keys better on the 13” Air (even if it’s an older keyboard and $350 … which I coughed up back in January).

White only and no keyboard backlight kind of kills ever picking one up. The old keyboard works just fine.
I think too

I have the older keyboard and thus would be a downgrade in my opinion. You can easily get by without the function row keys. Not perfect but easily doable
 
How much does this keyboard weigh?

I'm still using my 2018 iPad Pro 11" because it supports the discontinued Smart Keyboard Folio, which weighs only 308 grams. All Apple's more recent keyboard models weigh almost twice as much (580 grams for the magic keyboard!), making the whole thing almost as heavy as a laptop.
 
So glad I got a Smart Keyboard Folio for both my wife and daughter’s an iPad Air M2 last year.

It’s much cheaper, more practical, more stable on your lap (or table). These keyboard prices are insane, and they don’t even have backlit keys, which is the only feature missing on the good old Keyboard Folios.
 
I hate these new keyboards that force the trackpad on us...WHY DO I NEED A TRACKPAD ON A TOUCH DEVICE?! What I want is an updated version of the much more elegant SMART Keyboard Folio!!!! Ugh. At least this isn't as cumbersome and egregiously heavy as the Apple Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro (which weighs MORE than the iPad!)...and to add insult to injury, why is this only available in white?
I personally find the trackpad useful, since it's more convenient than reaching out to the screen. Although either way, I refuse to buy any of these cases, since they are way overpriced.
 
Then, why add these desktop-cenric features to it?
  • split view
  • slide over
  • desktop mode on Safari
  • Files app
  • Erasing an external drive
  • expanded external drive file format support
  • Stage Manager
  • Cursor support
I know, I know but they’re just no more other than productivity features
 
So glad I got a Smart Keyboard Folio for both my wife and daughter’s an iPad Air M2 last year.

It’s much cheaper, more practical, more stable on your lap (or table). These keyboard prices are insane, and they don’t even have backlit keys, which is the only feature missing on the good old Keyboard Folios.
But no Trackpads sadly, but Hey!, you can use an external mouse!
 
At least it's compatible with all M chip iPad Airs and even the A14 iPad Air?

But this whole iPad accessories ecosystem is so confusing and all over the place. It breaks compatibility on a regular basis on both Pencil and keyboard side.

For the keyboard I sometimes get it. Sure, the M4 iPad Pro is physically thinner and whatnot and as the keyboard + trackpad combo is a case (or "folio") at the same time. But this new folio couldn't have been compatible with the iPad Pro M1/M2? Just make the camera cutout a little bigger. The base iPad has an entirely different keyboard folio.

Pencil, same thing. For some reason Apple didn't think of the idea that a landscape-oriented webcam is a good idea, so they put the charging coil of the Pencil 2 in a very inconvenient place. Now you need the Pencil Pro on devices with a landscape webcam and the Pencil 2 on older devices with a portrait webcam. There is no cross-compatibility at all here. Oh, and the base iPad, even the new one, guess what: it doesn't have a charging coil at all, so you better get the weird-to-use USB-C Pencil or the even-weirder-to-use Pencil 1 with Lightning and a USB-C adapter. Just iterate ONE Pencil design with new features every now and then, but make them compatible with older iPads and make newer iPads compatible with older Pencils.

I get that Apple bets on users simply purchasing new accessories with their device, I just think it's confusing and at least for me personally, it holds me back from upgrading, it doesn't make me want to upgrade more.
 
Yeah, I’m surprised backlighting is not here

Depending on where you plan to use this backlighting could be more useful than the function row keys
I’m sitting in the dark with my 11” M2 Air + Magic keyboard on my lap and the backlighting is much more valuable than function keys. But at that price, it should be both.
 
Its got to have backlit keys, there is no way they would remove it, because you need it in dark areas obviously. It will have fixed backlit keys for sure, just not adaptive.
it really doesn’t. I just checked on Apple’s website and there is no mention of backlighting. They really took it away, as hard as it is to believe .
 
I’m sitting in the dark with my 11” M2 Air + Magic keyboard on my lap and the backlighting is much more valuable than function keys. But at that price, it should be both.
Yeah I agree, I mean I can get by without it on some of my devices. But on my iPad sometimes I might be someplace with inadequate lighting as it’s a mobile device and I’m away from desk. So in those cases the backlight it super useful.

After all these years you’d have thought they would have found a way to keep it and keep manufacturing costs down. I just wonder what the profit is on these accessories. And it seems they prioritized profit over user experience.
 
I am disgusted. 4 different kinds of keyboards and none of them are cross-compatible
 
I want the Apple Smart Keyboard Folio back for all new iPad models. I won't upgrade until Apple releases it. Magic Keyboard is heavy, thick, and beats the purpose of having an iPad for reading. Apple could come up with an even lighter, stronger Smart Keyboard Folio if they put the research into it. Not sure who convinced Apple that we wanted to transform our iPads into laptops. I'd just buy a Macbook for that which is what I have.
 
Can I use my old keyboard case with backlit keys with a new iPad Air?

I can’t fathom why Apple downgraded this “upgrade” to the Air keyboard from 4 years ago?

"it still lacks an aluminum top case, backlighting, and haptic feedback." My current magic keyboard is backlit.

Bloody hell, they've actually taken away the backlighting!!

This is actually quite a significant downgrade from what we previously had for a very similar price.
 
How much does this keyboard weigh?

I'm still using my 2018 iPad Pro 11" because it supports the discontinued Smart Keyboard Folio, which weighs only 308 grams. All Apple's more recent keyboard models weigh almost twice as much (580 grams for the magic keyboard!), making the whole thing almost as heavy as a laptop.
To be fair, the Magic Keyboard's need to have a certain weight to stop the iPad from toppling over backwards with you tap the screen.
 
The price of these keyboards completely baffles me.
I think the pricing is designed to price discriminate between people buying an iPad as just an iPad and those wanting a "laptop light".

In other words, keep the iPad itself relatively cheap to sell more units. Charge a high price to turn the iPad into a laptop substitute, such that it's not that much less than a low-end Apple laptop.

(This doesn't mean I agree with the pricing . . . but it doesn't "baffle" me, just annoys me).
 
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