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I've been using a Microsoft Surface Pro 3 for almost a year. With Windows 10 it is spectacular. Apple's announcement today is a spectacular, "oh! Great idea, we can do that too."
 
I love it how everyone jumps on the 'it's overpriced when you add on the $799' iPad Pro... when go back 5-6 years before the original iPad launched and everyone was HAPPILY expecting it to be $999+ device!

With it's angle and pressure sensors, I can see this being massive. Although they previewed a really basic 'pencil' use with Microsoft Office, the real benefits will be in the creative world for digital/web designers, architects, cad workers etc.
 
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Unless I'm replacing my laptop I can't really afford it. I guess I'll stick to my regular Wacom tablet got now till the pencil works with other models. Just can't blow $999 for something to just mess around with. Wish the original iPad came with a pressure sensitive stylus. I don't use my iPad for any thing but to read comic books once in awhile most times it just sits there. Hopefully it works well though it would be like a dream come true if it does.
 
Sticking the pencil in the side of the ipad is just asking for it to be snapped off.

And what does a person do if the iPad Pro AND the Apple Pencil both need charging at the same time?


$250 for both accessories is highway robbery give the already hefty price for the iPad Pro. This pricing makes the product dead-on-arrival for the education market.

I'm not sure I agree. The MS Surface keyboard retails for $129.99 and the keyboard is (based on reviews) likely inferior to the build for the Apple keyboard.
 
Been telling you guys for a while now: sell your Apple stock while it's still north of $100. We'll see $85 by this time next year. Book it. They're starting to do what Apple did after Jobs was fired: over-saturate their product lineup.

Enjoy shorting. Sounds like you will be a very rich man if it all works out for you.
 
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I'm actually hoping that the pencil will be compatible with the next iPhone +. Kinda doubt it though.


The pencil is not only pressure sensitive, but also detects tilt and angle. Something I'm pretty sure we've only seen on the higher end dedicated Wacom tablets up until this point.
Nah, been available on Samsung S Pen (Note series) for a while. Impossible to say how it compares, of course, but this is hardly novel and Apple's solution seem more complicated (charge via the Lightning port, no built-in slot for it). Neat feature anyway though.
 
I hope that they make these accessories available to the other iPads as well. How long has other iPad users wanted stylus support!? Plus, I would love a first party keyboard for my 9.7" iPad besides Apple's Mac keyboard.
The keyboard seems to require that new connector, and the stylus requires a specialized display... So I don't think these will be able to work with the existing iPad designs. The mini was updated, but it looks like it's just a bump to put it roughly on-par with the Air 2
 
It's pretty interesting to see negative reactions to the Pencil.

A similar Wacom stylus costs at least $50 + a board which can cost up to $400 for the largest size.
Surface is nice, but if you need it for OS X, you cannot use Surface obviously.

It would be pretty sweet if iPad pro were allowed to be tethered as a secondary screen for the desktop or laptops, which would essentially replace all wacom tablets.

For business use or for students, this could be a boon for productivity if there are great apps for it.
Something like Microsoft OneNote would be really great; the currently existing softwares for note-taking mostly just don't cut it.
 
And what does a person do if the iPad Pro AND the Apple Pencil both need charging at the same time?
Great opportunity for an aftermarket pocket-protector/charger!

I'm not sure I agree. The MS Surface keyboard retails for $129.99 and the keyboard is (based on reviews) likely inferior to the build for the Apple keyboard.
Microsoft will introduce a new Surface Pro "4" in October. Expect improvements across the board.
 
And what does a person do if the iPad Pro AND the Apple Pencil both need charging at the same time?
The pencil gets (reportedly) half an hour of use out of a 15 second charge. I think somehow a person will manage :) Unless they're both 100% stone cold dead.
 
The pencil is not only pressure sensitive, but also detects tilt and angle. Something I'm pretty sure we've only seen on the higher end dedicated Wacom tablets up until this point.

Samsung has included Wacom technology in their devices for years now, with fine point and pressure sensitivity.

And since late 2014, using an "Advanced S Pen" with Samsung tablets or phablet adds speed, tilt, rotation.

And charging the stylus is super awkward!

Yeah, since they're Wacom based, Samsung pens are wirelessly powered by the detection field. No battery or cable needed.
 
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Does the iPad Pro do Palm rejection? Not a deal breaker if it doesn't as that doesn't really work too well but from the video it looked like it doesn't have it.
 
Does the iPad Pro do Palm rejection? Not a deal breaker if it doesn't as that doesn't really work too well but from the video it looked like it doesn't have it.

It seems like it does, or at least it should, since they said it can detect when you're using the Pencil vs. a finger- which means it knows when the pencil is writing (obviously considering the other sensor readings for tilt, etc). Also, there's a pic on http://www.apple.com/apple-pencil/ where the hand appears to be resting partly on the screen- hopefully that's not a mistake...
 
It seems like it does, or at least it should, since they said it can detect when you're using the Pencil vs. a finger- which means it knows when the pencil is writing (obviously considering the other sensor readings for tilt, etc). Also, there's a pic on http://www.apple.com/apple-pencil/ where the hand appears to be resting partly on the screen- hopefully that's not a mistake...
It might be App based. Some apps don't support it as they don't have any faith in it. It needs to really be built into the device to work properly I think.
 
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