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Apple Announces The iPhone
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To all those complaining about the Cingular exclusivity:
I would love it if this phone was available on Verizon, since that's who I have, but this isn't possible because some of the biggest features are on the network side, as far as I understand.
Take Visual Voicemail, this feature wouldn't work on any other carrier because they don't support it. Only Cingular supports it. Why would Apple want to make their phone available on other networks when some of the bigger features can't even be used?
Of course I could be wrong about this, someone with more knowledge might be able to say more....
I would love it if this phone was available on Verizon, since that's who I have, but this isn't possible because some of the biggest features are on the network side, as far as I understand.
Take Visual Voicemail, this feature wouldn't work on any other carrier because they don't support it. Only Cingular supports it. Why would Apple want to make their phone available on other networks when some of the bigger features can't even be used?
Of course I could be wrong about this, someone with more knowledge might be able to say more....
For no amount of money
I would pay a $1,000.00 for the phone, been waiting for it for a while. You could not pay may enough to go back to cingular though. So i guess i will call sprint and get a replacement phone for my crappy treo.
Cingular is a sorry excuse for a cell phone provider.
I would pay a $1,000.00 for the phone, been waiting for it for a while. You could not pay may enough to go back to cingular though. So i guess i will call sprint and get a replacement phone for my crappy treo.
Cingular is a sorry excuse for a cell phone provider.
a quick check of the Cingular site shows that for what i get now from Sprint for 63 bucks and change would be over 100 there. and that would NOT include my 6:00pm N/W or my Sprint TV Live. eh, not looking to double my cell phone bill every month.
and - no 3g. deal breaker. my 920 gets used more for data than it does for calls. ain't no way i will ever buy a slower data device than the one i am using. ever.
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and - no 3g. deal breaker. my 920 gets used more for data than it does for calls. ain't no way i will ever buy a slower data device than the one i am using. ever.
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I would have LOVED this phone if it would have been 3G!!! But EDGE only? Definitely not worth the money. And what happened to computers?
I really want this iPhone. I think Apple will have a top seller with this product.
Just need to wait now for it to come to the UK
and I really hope you can buy it sim free without a contract. I really DON'T want any network crap on the phone (like Vodafone Live !)..
Come on December.. Can't wait...
Just need to wait now for it to come to the UK
and I really hope you can buy it sim free without a contract. I really DON'T want any network crap on the phone (like Vodafone Live !)..Come on December.. Can't wait...
My biggest concern. If I'm going to be dragging my fingers all over this thing, and if I'm going to be rubbing it all over my face, I need a durable screen.
Yes, Cingular only is dumb. Who knows how long that exclusive relationship is though. Hopefully only 6 months or so. I can handle leaving T-Mobile (my 2 years has long since expired) to get this phone.
I'm quite please that it doesn't come out until June- that gives me more than enough time to put a little bit of money aside for it.
According to CNN, the phone is exclusive with Cingular/ATT through 2009.
Return of the Newton and beyond. Everyone complaining about Cingular is missing the point -- this thing isn't a phone. It's a mobile device that happens to have a phone on it. Say hello to the PDA, realized.
And this is just a first draft.
Gotta love Macrumors:
1. Hype builds to uncontrolled levels.
2. Product comes out to spectacular design and great innovation.
3. Product doesn't match hype. (i.e. no multiple carriers, no 120 GB HD, no 3 week battery life, too wide, too heavy, not available in white)
4. People complain, whine, yell, and scream that this is Apple's downfall.
5. Product releases and is embraced by the mass consumer.
6. Repeat step one.
P.S. AS of right now, it seems to be GSM only, because GSM is the only standard available worldwide. (Apple is looking at the Global market, not just the insulated U.S. market)
1. Hype builds to uncontrolled levels.
2. Product comes out to spectacular design and great innovation.
3. Product doesn't match hype. (i.e. no multiple carriers, no 120 GB HD, no 3 week battery life, too wide, too heavy, not available in white)
4. People complain, whine, yell, and scream that this is Apple's downfall.
5. Product releases and is embraced by the mass consumer.
6. Repeat step one.
P.S. AS of right now, it seems to be GSM only, because GSM is the only standard available worldwide. (Apple is looking at the Global market, not just the insulated U.S. market)
Well the technology looks amazing, but by the time its out in the UK you can guarantee that the other phone manufacturers will have had plenty of time to work on their product as well. (and work around all of those new Apple patents..) I kind of hope that the UK doesn't get the 1st gen iPhone, but a 2nd gen 3G/HSDPA version with a higher res camera and more storage, which would be more in tune with the rest of the market by that point.
I wonder how they will price it in the UK, I'm certainly not going to pay anywhere near £300 - £350 for a phone that's tied into a contract. It would be unusual I think for most UK'ers to spend anywhere near that on a phone, unless it's an unlocked one that's just been released.
I wonder how they will price it in the UK, I'm certainly not going to pay anywhere near £300 - £350 for a phone that's tied into a contract. It would be unusual I think for most UK'ers to spend anywhere near that on a phone, unless it's an unlocked one that's just been released.
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Did they mention what the wifi was for?
So do you use the Internet functions over your wifi connection or over cingular, or does it seamlessly switch depending on where you are?
As an aside, even though I am a Verizon customer, my biggest hope, which seems to be shared by you all, was an unlocked phone--not one that would just conveniently happen to fit my plan.
I think a lot of people's hopes were riding on Apple. If any device could convince a large number of people to go out and pay way more for an unsubsidized phone without a contract it would have been this one. And if it became popular other manufacturers would start building those types of phones and the prices would come down because of competition. And eventually we'd be in SIM-card heaven....ahh summers in Sweden...anyhow, I was dissapointed because what I MOST wanted to see was leopard, a new UI in particular.....
This keynote ---I haven't seen it yet--was odd in that it announced two products that don't yet exist to the public, and unabashedly used a trademarked name ---iPhone......
So do you use the Internet functions over your wifi connection or over cingular, or does it seamlessly switch depending on where you are?
As an aside, even though I am a Verizon customer, my biggest hope, which seems to be shared by you all, was an unlocked phone--not one that would just conveniently happen to fit my plan.
I think a lot of people's hopes were riding on Apple. If any device could convince a large number of people to go out and pay way more for an unsubsidized phone without a contract it would have been this one. And if it became popular other manufacturers would start building those types of phones and the prices would come down because of competition. And eventually we'd be in SIM-card heaven....ahh summers in Sweden...anyhow, I was dissapointed because what I MOST wanted to see was leopard, a new UI in particular.....
This keynote ---I haven't seen it yet--was odd in that it announced two products that don't yet exist to the public, and unabashedly used a trademarked name ---iPhone......
Vision?...Did you notice the iphone looks like the Newton?Time will tell. Some people have vision, some people don't.
Give it a few months. Once the iPhone is out and about, that form factor and graphical interface will be incorporated into the next (widescreen, natch) iPod.
Fido and Rogers provide GSM service in Canada.
Rogers is notorious for letting customers bills go sky high if the phone is stolen and trying to force the unfortunate victim to pay the bill. Keep a close watch on your Rogers phone.
Rogers is notorious for letting customers bills go sky high if the phone is stolen and trying to force the unfortunate victim to pay the bill. Keep a close watch on your Rogers phone.
Incredibly BORING
For the first time I realize Apple is no longer making products for me. It's gonna cost $60 of more per month to use all those features about 90% of which I have no use for at all. The tech is wonderful. Waiting 6 months to get one is also a very bad thing. In any event like I said before I ain't switching from Verizon to Cingular for no freaking Apple phone no matter how "cool" it may be. It ain't that cool from where I sit which is 99% at the desktop Not On The Road which I have retired from.
NOT!Absolutely fantastic this phone! booooooooo@ all you complainers ,whiners and pissy pants
For the first time I realize Apple is no longer making products for me. It's gonna cost $60 of more per month to use all those features about 90% of which I have no use for at all. The tech is wonderful. Waiting 6 months to get one is also a very bad thing. In any event like I said before I ain't switching from Verizon to Cingular for no freaking Apple phone no matter how "cool" it may be. It ain't that cool from where I sit which is 99% at the desktop Not On The Road which I have retired from.
The UI on this thing kills everything else, including the various Windows Mobile iterations. Not just the touchscreen, but the way the GUI takes advantage of the touchscreen, as well as the motion sensor and proximity detector.
Since such touchscreen products have already been available in Windows phones for awhile, it blows my mind that they're not even close.
The interface is also key to the way everything is integrated- Google, contacts, phone, photos, blah blah blah...THIS is what a smartphone is supposed to be like.
Pricing is a bit ahead of the curve right now, but wait until next year when memory prices are cheaper. Apple doesn't drop prices a lot, but if you look at the iPod, you will see that cost improvements are passed onto consumers.
This is the next big thing for Apple, and has a chance to be right up there with the Mac and the iPod.
What I'm wondering is what kind of additional apps will be possible. Widgets are obvious, and actually will be much cooler on the iPhone than on Macs. I like the square icons, there should be some way of organzing additional apps/widgets though.
Since such touchscreen products have already been available in Windows phones for awhile, it blows my mind that they're not even close.
The interface is also key to the way everything is integrated- Google, contacts, phone, photos, blah blah blah...THIS is what a smartphone is supposed to be like.
Pricing is a bit ahead of the curve right now, but wait until next year when memory prices are cheaper. Apple doesn't drop prices a lot, but if you look at the iPod, you will see that cost improvements are passed onto consumers.
This is the next big thing for Apple, and has a chance to be right up there with the Mac and the iPod.
What I'm wondering is what kind of additional apps will be possible. Widgets are obvious, and actually will be much cooler on the iPhone than on Macs. I like the square icons, there should be some way of organzing additional apps/widgets though.
Word and Powerpoint Editor
The new interface and touchscreen are truly amazing, but for 499/599 I'd hope these aspects would be better utilized.
A Word and Powerpoint editor would truly make this device complete and justify the price. Without these pieces of software (and without 3G support), Apple's implementation of a smartphone has some serious limitations.
The new interface and touchscreen are truly amazing, but for 499/599 I'd hope these aspects would be better utilized.
A Word and Powerpoint editor would truly make this device complete and justify the price. Without these pieces of software (and without 3G support), Apple's implementation of a smartphone has some serious limitations.
I apologize if this has been answered I can't keep up with the thread.
On apples site they say the iphone is used with wifi... does that mean Cingular hot spots or like your regular internet at home?
God I hate Cingular, but maybe in a year when my Verizon contract is up Cingulars service might have picked up a bit as far as covering my house.
On apples site they say the iphone is used with wifi... does that mean Cingular hot spots or like your regular internet at home?
God I hate Cingular, but maybe in a year when my Verizon contract is up Cingulars service might have picked up a bit as far as covering my house.
$3000-ouch!
Ok, so about $100 for a low end phone plan with unlimited data over 24 months=$2400 min to use this phone like it's supposed to, plus the initial $599. I was talking to a friend about getting a Treo at Cingular, but they don't have their own product replacement plan that lets you walk into a store and get a replacement if you drop yours and break it of it gets stolen. I needed to swap my Treo 600 twice with Sprint and that alone was worth the $6 per month. Cingular sends you to a 3rd party company. Can you say headaches? People are going to drop this thing left and right like they do any cell phone. I hope that screen is made of something that doesn't exist yet, like a magic force field or something, because there are going to be a lot of people with $600 bricks and a junky contract several months from now.
Ok, so about $100 for a low end phone plan with unlimited data over 24 months=$2400 min to use this phone like it's supposed to, plus the initial $599. I was talking to a friend about getting a Treo at Cingular, but they don't have their own product replacement plan that lets you walk into a store and get a replacement if you drop yours and break it of it gets stolen. I needed to swap my Treo 600 twice with Sprint and that alone was worth the $6 per month. Cingular sends you to a 3rd party company. Can you say headaches? People are going to drop this thing left and right like they do any cell phone. I hope that screen is made of something that doesn't exist yet, like a magic force field or something, because there are going to be a lot of people with $600 bricks and a junky contract several months from now.
I can't believe the amount of bitching on this thread. Steve Jobs could've announce he was giving away 100 dollar bills and you'd complain about having to send him a self-addressed, stamped envelope.
This phone will be bigger than the iPod. It's the convergence device everyone's been waiting for. All you naysayers may now practice hanging your heads in shame when this thing takes off.
This phone will be bigger than the iPod. It's the convergence device everyone's been waiting for. All you naysayers may now practice hanging your heads in shame when this thing takes off.
what are the capabilites of using this as sat nav with google earth, or any other sat nav application? ill probly wait till the 2nd 1 comes out, hopefully with ichat.
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