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Why would FaceTime need carrier approval when Skype, Fring, NimBuzz, etc already allow video chats over 3G?
 
The question is do those carriers even have a choice to bargain with Apple, after iPhone's success and thus marginalizing those telecomm co.

Tethering was blocked as well when Apple had the tech to do it well, but later on it became available on 4.3.
A similar issue will probably happen to sim card. Soon all those "activation fees" will be charged by Apple rather than AT&T

It's not nearly the power dynamic you want to think. The iPhone isn't particularly useful without the carriers, who were around before it.
 
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Will iOS 5 support email based FaceTime on iPhone?

I use iPhone on a non FaceTime supporting carrier. Would be great if I can have FaceTime like on an iPod touch over email.

over email? what?
 
Facetime will never be a success without working on 3G - either people can reach me anytime or it is pointless ... so I hope this is true - especially that now that I gave up hope for a true iPad client of Skype due to the Microsoft ownership.
 
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Will iOS 5 support email based FaceTime on iPhone?

I use iPhone on a non FaceTime supporting carrier. Would be great if I can have FaceTime like on an iPod touch over email.

yes it will work with email (just like the desktop facetime app)
 
Becasue, they are using pure data - Facetime utilizes carrier voice networks to initiate the call on iPhones.

But it would switch over to data, and if you facetime with an email address (which is required to facetime with anything that isn't a iPhone4) you would be pure data as well...
 
Why would carriers even care. The more data you use on the limited plans then the more you will pay them when you go over. I don't think AT&T is really concerned if you use less than 2gb or more. If you use more you pay more. Its more $$ in their pocket. You can use Skype and Yahoo messenger to do video calling so I can't see this being any different.

i think it has to do with them trying to maintain their quality of service without having to upgrade and maintain their network hardware. if they can limit traffic they don't have to build to maintain larger amounts of traffic.
 
Given how many issues Apple tends to have with carriers, how long until they just branch off and offer their own service?

Where can I sign up for it? Can we start some petition for that?

The carriers these days are dinosaurs from the past - they just stand in the way of new technologies and try to suck as much money out of you with limited investment in new technology.
 
Carriers should be fine. They already support other VoIP and video chat apps on iPhone over 3G.

I hope that Facetime has a "low bandwidth" version though.

I've used Skype and Facetime over low bandwidth connections and Skype works FAR FAR better. However, when you've got the bandwidth, Facetime looks better.
 
Good. I'm glad. I'm glad Apple is starting to just show the features our mobile devices could have, if our carriers didn't completely suck in their quest to provide the least amount of service for the most money. Shifts the blame of this stuff to where it is due.

So much for free market capitalism providing the best consumer bah blah blah
 
But it would switch over to data, and if you facetime with an email address (which is required to facetime with anything that isn't a iPhone4) you would be pure data as well...

You are correct.

FaceTime on an iPod touch clearly doesn't use a voice call to start things off!
 
Well, you can add FaceBreak to the list of DOA JB apps now.

This is actually a GOOD thing. I'm getting a chuckle out of the comments lamenting the fact that some jailbreaks will now be useless. This goes to show that the users have spoken, and some of the features that we want badly (tethering on AT&T, using the Volume Up button as a camera shutter button, FaceTime over the cellular connection, iMessages, a better notification system etc.) are now legally coming to iOS.

If you're a developer of some of these kinds of previously "illegal" software, this should be considered a victory!
 
You can NOW video Skype without the carriers saying a effffing word about it so why should this be any different??
 
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I don't want "FaceTime 3G support" I want the phone to stop treating wifi and cellular connections differently altogether!
 
Given how many issues Apple tends to have with carriers, how long until they just branch off and offer their own service?

Apple have been rumored to have been looking at a model where they buy airtime in bulk from all the carriers and set themselves up as a MVNO. Part of this was the sim-less phone that they were looking at last year.
The idea her is you just buy call/data when you need it from whoever has the best coverage where you are.

This was met with a revolt from the carriers in Europe who left it woul take away their "direct relationship with their customer" or "control"

Still might happen in some form
 
Not on iPad...

Interestingly, I tried this on my iPad2 running iOS 5 and I didn't receive such error when I tried to connect via 3G to a FaceTime call.
 
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I don't want "FaceTime 3G support" I want the phone to stop treating wifi and cellular connections differently altogether!

Same here.

I'd also like to be able to download apps over 20 megs... at least up the limit to 30 or 40. Or, even better, give the option to only warn the user and not block them from doing so (in the parental controls/restrictions menu!). We pay for the service, we should be able to use it.

It's annoying to see my friend on Verizon video call someone right next to me, while I sit with my higher-priced paperweight, at the moment.
 
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