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I went back and forth between my 5s and 6. I ultimately sold my 6 as I got used to the 4.7" screen. While it wouldn't be a bad idea to introduce a 4" 6c, I can see their reasoning behind scraping the idea.
 
Well it would sell more because the 4 inch version would be cheaper. It's not the fact people want a smaller iPhone it's the fact it would be cheaper.

I've not heard one person complaining about the iPhone 6 size. It seems to be apple fanatics who can't adjust to change who want a 4 inch phone. If it was up to them the iPhone 6 would be 3.8 inches.
You just completely contradicted yourself. You said you've not heard one person complain about the iPhone 6 size. Okay so maybe you've not heard complaints with your ears. But this thread is full of posts and thumbs up from people who would love a smaller phone. Yes, people, not Apple fanatics. People like you and me. Humans. Homo sapiens sapiens. I'm being an ass about driving this point home because I resent being dissed and dismissed.

I'm many things, but I'm not an Apple fanatic. I'm only going to be with Apple while they make what I want and provide the level of service I've come to associate with them. It's not a religion I adhere to. We do have a Steve Jobs bobble head figure in the house, but we don't pray to it! ;) The Great Cthulhu would smite us if we did.

And I and at least one other person I saw specifically said we would happily pay full price for a smaller iPhone because it's smaller. We don't want it just because it MIGHT be cheaper, if they ever make one again.

Of course this whole article is fluff. It's an analyst analyzing. None of this comes directly from Apple so all of our rants are against the idea of Apple doing this, not the direct knowledge of what they intend to do.
 
You just completely contradicted yourself. You said you've not heard one person complain about the iPhone 6 size. Okay so maybe you've not heard complaints with your ears. But this thread is full of posts and thumbs up from people who would love a smaller phone. Yes, people, not Apple fanatics. People like you and me. Humans. Homo sapiens sapiens. I'm being an ass about driving this point home because I resent being dissed and dismissed.

I'm many things, but I'm not an Apple fanatic. I'm only going to be with Apple while they make what I want and provide the level of service I've come to associate with them. It's not a religion I adhere to. We do have a Steve Jobs bobble head figure in the house, but we don't pray to it! ;) The Great Cthulhu would smite us if we did.

And I and at least one other person I saw specifically said we would happily pay full price for a smaller iPhone because it's smaller. We don't want it just because it MIGHT be cheaper, if they ever make one again.

Of course this whole article is fluff. It's an analyst analyzing. None of this comes directly from Apple so all of our rants are against the idea of Apple doing this, not the direct knowledge of what they intend to do.

I don't care about price. If I want to buy something and I can personally justify my purchase, I'm an owner.
In this instance, I really like the form factor of my 5s. I personally don't care for the larger screens on the phone, I have an iPad for that.

As for the analyst, we need to consider the first four letters.
 
How about they just offer a 4" iPhone 6S for the same price as the 4.7" iPhone 6S? They could call it the iPhone 6 Minus, lol. I know lots of people, especially women who are staying on iPhone 5 and 5S until Apple makes a 4" iPhone again.

My wife has small hands and it took her LG Flip to die and a great promo at Costco to get her to step up to the 5S. I know for a fact that she would never entertain the idea of the 6, much less the 6+.
 
How about they just offer a 4" iPhone 6S for the same price as the 4.7" iPhone 6S? They could call it the iPhone 6 Minus, lol. I know lots of people, especially women who are staying on iPhone 5 and 5S until Apple makes a 4" iPhone again.

I doubt Apple would go backwards and make a smaller phone again.
 
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I'm sure Apple knows better than me, but, honestly, rather than cannibalizing 6/6+ sale, I think they would have seen more upgrades from folks who prefer 5/5S size and did not upgrade to 6/6+.

Perhaps fewer people than we think would actually prefer a 4" screen over a 4.7" screen. It's really not that big of a difference in terms of pocket-ability or hold-ability.
 
My wife has small hands and it took her LG Flip to die and a great promo at Costco to get her to step up to the 5S. I know for a fact that she would never entertain the idea of the 6, much less the 6+.

iPhone 6S- for everyone! Haha. Yeah my wife is in the same boat. She gets really mad about it when I bring it up because she is so frustrated. She loves her iPhone and feels like Apple abandoned her after years of using a smaller screen. She wasn't very happy with the 4" screen either after having the 3.5" but the 4" is definitely her breaking point. Anything above that and she won't deal. They just don't fit well in her small hands and her tight little girl jeans.

I doubt Apple would go backwards and make a smaller phone again.

Yeah but who says that's going backwards? It's only considered backwards now because it's the current fad. Phones used to be big and they got smaller. Then they got bigger with the BB, Palm Pilot, BlackJack, etc. Then they got smaller again with the iPhone, and now they're getting bigger again. I'm going down from the Plus to the 6S when it comes out. The bigger phone was fun at first but not very practical. There are several prominent Apple blogger such as Gruber who have voiced support for the 4" size. They could do it at the same price and have higher margins. It's not like $199 is any more than they used to charge for 4" sizes. Just downclock the processor slightly if the battery can't keep up. Or God forbid make it just a tiny bit thicker? They did that with the 3G and the next iPhone 6S is rumored to be slightly thicker, matching the 6 Plus.
 
Except there are cases where Apple has done just that. Look at the iPad lineup. I think the entire iPad lineup is about meeting certain price points and maintaining margins. I think the 5C was more about trying to create differentiation within the iPhone product line than wanting to create a phone for low income demographic looking for cheap phones. It was Wall Street and the media that assumed the "C" stood for cheap. And I also think there was an element of trying to keep a cheaper 5 from cannibalizing the 5S. That's why I'm still a bit skeptical that Apple will keep both the 6 and 6 Plus but just discount them $100.


I don't really understand your point. Demand for a smaller, lighter iPad was great enough that the mini ate into iPad sales. Even more so when the iPad mini Retina shipped.

Sure the "C" was about creating a sharper differentiation between the main line and the "lower priced" line. It was smoke and mirrors repackaging of, at the time "last years iPhone," done so it would not longer be tagged as "last years iPhone," as Apple previous iPhone lineup stood. Apple would not have cared if the "C" cannibalized iPhone sales -- it said as much. But what happened is that it was view as "C"heap and if Apple doesn't continue with a 6C evidence prima facie that its not a line worth continuing.

Both Steve Jobs and Tim Cook said many time Apple doesn't care if its products cannibalize each other. So I think everyone must take him at them at their word. Just a sampling from the over the years:

http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...y-apple-doesnt-worry-about-ipad-cannibal.aspx

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/02/cannibalization-of-mac-os-x-by-iosdoes-apple-even-care/

http://news.softpedia.com/news/iPho...-the-iPad-and-Apple-Doesn-t-Care-468921.shtml

http://www.imore.com/shocker-apple-still-doesnt-care-if-they-cannibalize-their-own-products
 
So, why not just release a 4" 6C with the same internals as the 6 and sell it alongside the 6 at the exact same price as the 6? Would that still be considered cannibalizing if they cost the same? I am sure there's added cost on their part to offer two products, but might not two products capture more total audience?

Why does the C model have to be a budget phone? Apple doesn't need to sell a budget phone. I personally don't want to buy a budget phone. But I do prefer a 4" (or even 3.5") screen. And I happen to be pretty attached to the color options like my 5C.

You and I want don't want a budget phone but I imagine there's a sizable market that does. And I imagine Apple wants some of that market at least partly because it's a lower entry point for new iPhone customers who will upgrade to regular iPhone models in the future. And I imagine Apple doesn't want to mess with two low entry iPhones, and it's a LOT cheaper to go with the one that's already being manufactured.

It really is a shame though. Even if the 4" model is always one year behind in specs, I'd gladly take that over a bigger phone.
 
I know SO many people who didn't upgrade from a 5 due to the size increase of the 6... shame.

Odd I know exactly no one that was concerned about the update in size at all. Looks like Apple is betting these users will come around like the iPhone 4 users did when the phone screen size increased with the iPhone 5.
 
Annoying. I have an iPhone 6 at the moment, and would love a next-gen spec phone with a 4 inch screen. It was the perfect size for me personally. Sure other people like bigger screens and thats fine but give me a 4 inch phone with the latest spec including camera and I'm sold. I would gladly pay MORE than i do for the 4.8inch if I had to!
 
The fate of the 6 Plus is intriguing.

If history is anything to go on, the 5C gets discontinued, the 5S becomes "Free" and the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus get price cuts.

Whether the iPhone 6 Plus will disappear completely is interesting. I'm leaning towards it staying.
There is no way the iPhone Plus models are leaving. That phone brought back too many smart phone users.
 
There is no way the iPhone Plus models are leaving. That phone brought back too many smart phone users.
Agreed. The iPhone 6 plus was the first iPhone in a while that I actually use as my primary phone. I've been using android devices for the past 3 years. Most of my friends who were using Galaxy note phones now have iPhone 6 plus.

Even the regular iPhone 6 brought a lot of android users over.
 
I don't get why they would scrap it... I know plenty of people who got the 6, but would have preferred the 4" screen of the 5s because their hands are small...
Same. My partner recently bought an iPhone 5S over a 6 because it's just too big for her small hands. I'm 6' and even with my humongous piano playing fingers I find the iPhone 6 to be a little too big for one handed use. Works out better for her since the 5S is cheaper!
 
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Perhaps what people thought was a 4" iPhone was really just the iPod touch. In one of Ming-Chi Kuo's reports he referenced a pink iPhone. Perhaps that was really the pink iPod touch.

No, the 'pink' is the rose gold iPhone.

I'm sure they have tons of prototypes out there - 6c with 5s internals, 6c with 6 internals, etc.
 
Ahh the bulky C edition, glad they are doing away with it. I don't see a reason for C edition anymore. But one can only wish, Apple would just do away with the home button by now, double tapping has never been fun, rather annoying. Plus it's taking up more space (bigger than Note 4), I hope iPhone 7 will do us solid, IMO, two things can help reduce the height of iPhone by a lot, bringing down the front facing camera to the right, and doing away with home button.
 
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