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A year ago everybody was all "When is Apple going to release a larger iPhone?" Now we've got a group of "Gosh, why won't Apple release a smaller iPhone?"
 
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Why does it have to be an incentive for apple? Why are you standing up for supporting their screwing over of people who liked 4 inch phones. I wouldn't have bought into the iPhone if I knew that they were going to do a 180 degree turn and stop selling what was (and still is) a perfect phone size.

You don't have any proof that people will just happily upgrade to a bigger phone. Plenty of iPhone users switched to different brands when apple didn't go to a larger screen, so whats to stop people doing the same now, as they want a smaller screen? I'd rather do that then have a useless iPhone 6.

The iPhone has sold in record numbers regardless of screen size. The iPhone 6 smashed all previous records. So if Apple doesn't make a 4" phone, will you be jumping to Android?

Why does there have to be incentive for Apple? How about $$$? Apple isn't screwing anyone over. The consumer can vote with their wallet. My money is on people will complain until the cows come home and buy whatever Apple offers anyway. There has been ample evidence of that a MR since the 6 was released. Apple knows their market far better than anyone here. The forums are mostly tech people. Apple caters to the masses.
 
The iPhone has sold in record numbers regardless of screen size. The iPhone 6 smashed all previous records. So if Apple doesn't make a 4" phone, will you be jumping to Android?

Why does there have to be incentive for Apple? How about $$$? Apple isn't screwing anyone over. The consumer can vote with their wallet. My money is on people will complain until the cows come home and buy whatever Apple offers anyway. There has been ample evidence of that a MR since the 6 was released. Apple knows their market far better than anyone here. The forums are mostly tech people. Apple caters to the masses.

The incentive is that it keeps loyal customers happy. Apple could give back by just continuing to make a 4 inch option. Its not that hard, and I don't know why people are against it. I will be forced to jump ship when my 5 or potential 5S becomes outdated.

Apple is screwing people over. There are also plenty who won't upgrade, and I think you proved my point by talking about Macrumours. Sure there are heaps on here who have upgraded regardless. There are also heaps on this thread who haven't upgraded and will continue to not upgrade. The point however is that Screen size is something important to the non techie people who aren't on Macrumours. Maceumours people will upgrade regardless due to technology, where as your average user is less brand loyal and things like form factor are more important.

Apple has gotten the market wrong plenty of times in the past anyway. And besides, Apple bang on about 'making the best possible product' and they're meant to 'think different', so why force customers onto cumbersome screen sizes, when they're obviously able to easily upgrade the 5S or scale down the 6S to a 4 inch size.
 
The incentive is that it keeps loyal customers happy. Apple could give back by just continuing to make a 4 inch option. Its not that hard, and I don't know why people are against it. I will be forced to jump ship when my 5 or potential 5S becomes outdated.

Apple is screwing people over. There are also plenty who won't upgrade, and I think you proved my point by talking about Macrumours. Sure there are heaps on here who have upgraded regardless. There are also heaps on this thread who haven't upgraded and will continue to not upgrade. The point however is that Screen size is something important to the non techie people who aren't on Macrumours. Maceumours people will upgrade regardless due to technology, where as your average user is less brand loyal and things like form factor are more important.

Apple has gotten the market wrong plenty of times in the past anyway.

Ok, I want a flip phone with a 2" screen. Apple is screwing me too since they don't make one. Or I need a rugged phone for construction work, Apple doesn't have anything that fits the bill. I need a water resistant phone, again, Apple comes up short. Some people don't want a smart phone, just a simple phone to make calls now and again. Which model does Apple have to meet that need? Apple is screwing millions of people world wide. But they keep making record profits quarter after quarter. Why don't they make a rugged flip phone?

Apple never supported Blu-ray. Apple was late to the party with USB 3. Apple used Firewire. The incentive didn't matter then either.
 
I just can't understand why they can't just offer 3 sizes. They offer 3 laptop sizes, and they offered all sorts of iPod sizes.

Of course they can offer three sizes if they want to. They could also make the base storage 32GB which is what many people want. They could have put 2GB of RAM in the iPhone and the iPad Air, but they didn't. Money. Profit. That's what it's all about, regardless of what the consumer wants.
 
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Ok, I want a flip phone with a 2" screen. Apple is screwing me too since they don't make one. Or I need a rugged phone for construction work, Apple doesn't have anything that fits the bill. I need a water resistant phone, again, Apple comes up short. Some people don't want a smart phone, just a simple phone to make calls now and again. Which model does Apple have to meet that need? Apple is screwing millions of people world wide. But they keep making record profits quarter after quarter. Why don't they make a rugged flip phone?

Apple never supported Blu-ray. Apple was late to the party with USB 3. Apple used Firewire. The incentive didn't matter then either.

No because Apple never made a 2 inch screen flip hone. They did entice me into their VERY locked down ecosystem with a reasonable sized 3.5/4 inch phone USABLE WITH ONE HAND that was offered for 7 or so years, and then randomly get rid of it despite going on about how good it was + advertising it. Thats screwing people over. Maybe profits aren't all that matter. It worries me how many people on here will blindly follow Apple and will only care about Apple's profits.
 
Of course they can offer three sizes if they want to. They could also make the base storage 32GB which is what many people want. They could have put 2GB of RAM in the iPhone and the iPad Air, but they didn't. Money. Profit. That's what it's all about, regardless of what the consumer wants.

And how anyone could see that as a good thing is beyond me.
 
Hmmmm why do we still refer to the 5C or potential 6C as low cost? Clearly it's unapologetic premium plastic priced accordingly, nothing low cost about it.
 
Having used the iPhone plus for almost a year and having to use the 5S while the 6 was repaired, I really am enjoying the experience of the smaller handset and one handed use. If the battery life was better I'm not sure I would jump back to the 6.
 
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I wonder if Apple will just drop the price of the 6/6 Plus and kill the 5C (or maybe keep it around for markets like India)? Having 6 phones in the lineup seems nuts. Maybe the 6 Plus doesn't get discounted and only the 6 hangs around as the mid tier option?

Drop price on thier premium handset..... Yeah right..... Maybe an entry 8GB Unit :)
 
Well it would sell more because the 4 inch version would be cheaper. It's not the fact people want a smaller iPhone it's the fact it would be cheaper.

I've not heard one person complaining about the iPhone 6 size. It seems to be apple fanatics who can't adjust to change who want a 4 inch phone. If it was up to them the iPhone 6 would be 3.8 inches.

You have not been listening - there are plenty of people (maybe not a majority but still a substantial number) who say they want a premium phone in a smaller size. The price is not the issue size is! Many of us for whom size is an issue have held on to the 5 or 5s and are waiting for a new small phone before we upgrade. For me sell it for the same price as the bigger phones and I will still choose the smaller one.
 
You have not been listening - there are plenty of people (maybe not a majority but still a substantial number) who say they want a premium phone in a smaller size. The price is not the issue size is! Many of us for whom size is an issue have held on to the 5 or 5s and are waiting for a new small phone before we upgrade. For me sell it for the same price as the bigger phones and I will still choose the smaller one.

You are very right. I would also pay the same price for a 4 inch version as they charge for the 4.7.
 
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Customers (screaming): iPhone screens are too small! You need to make a bigger phone!
Apple: -releases bigger phone-
Customers (still screaming): iPhone screens are too big! You should go back to the smaller size!
Except that the customers screaming for a bigger iPhone never were the same that now scream for a smaller iPhone. "Customers" are not a huge, homogenous blob, you know?
 
I don't think Apple has to worry about 'cannibalization', as long as they don't make the side bezels disappear, like on the attached picture in the OP. That mockup looks ****ing terrible.
 
I just can't understand why they can't just offer 3 sizes. They offer 3 laptop sizes, and they offered all sorts of iPod sizes.

Likely profitability. If an iPhone 6c maybe breaks even, an iPhone 6s makes a bunch of money and an iPhone 6s+ makes a bunch of money, why bother with the 6c? Apple has become so big that it's not going to waste time on a product line that doesn't show promise for making money. I can't say I miss my smaller iPhone 5s now. My hands aren't even the largest. My mom, whose hands are smaller than mine, wants to get the 6+ or whatever that size is when she makes her next upgrade. I have mostly adjusted to the almost-one-handed usability of the iPhone 6, so that doesn't bug me.
 
This could be a great cover up

Get mass reports and on the iPhone 6c based on no news..... Everyone thinks the worse, then Apple surprise all of us *with* an iPhone 6c....

That probably would never happen, but it would be a great leak if true :)
 
You have not been listening - there are plenty of people (maybe not a majority but still a substantial number) who say they want a premium phone in a smaller size. The price is not the issue size is! Many of us for whom size is an issue have held on to the 5 or 5s and are waiting for a new small phone before we upgrade. For me sell it for the same price as the bigger phones and I will still choose the smaller one.

The only people I hear complaining about the screen size is on this forum. In the real world I have not heard anyone complain about the screen size.

If screen size was such an issue iPhone 6 and 6+ wouldn't have been so successful.
 
Likely profitability. If an iPhone 6c maybe breaks even, an iPhone 6s makes a bunch of money and an iPhone 6s+ makes a bunch of money, why bother with the 6c? Apple has become so big that it's not going to waste time on a product line that doesn't show promise for making money. I can't say I miss my smaller iPhone 5s now. My hands aren't even the largest. My mom, whose hands are smaller than mine, wants to get the 6+ or whatever that size is when she makes her next upgrade. I have mostly adjusted to the almost-one-handed usability of the iPhone 6, so that doesn't bug me.

Because they could probably make a lot of money. Again, I wish people would look at it from a consumers perspective, not always from Apple's perspective. They've got enough money, so they're more than able to make a fairly significant number of people happy. I've certainly given Apple enough of my money.

Again, its great that the 6 and 6+ suit you and your mother, but they don't suit everyone. The 6 defeats the purpose of a mobile phone for me, as it is too big to comfortably use one handed, in addition to it being bulkier overall.
 
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The only people I hear complaining about the screen size is on this forum. In the real world I have not heard anyone complain about the screen size.

If screen size was such an issue iPhone 6 and 6+ wouldn't have been so successful.

I've heard plenty of people complain, far more than on this forum. Again, the 6 and 6+ are huge with android switchers, and not as much with iPhone upgraders. Also people on 4 inch phones, such as the 5 and 5S haven't really started mass upgrading yet. The demand for a new 4 inch phone will pick up then.
 
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Does Apple have data to show how many are still using an iPhone 4 or 5 or 6? Or would that be only the cell phone carriers that have this data? I'd love to see a chart graph showing how many people in the world are still using a 4" iPhone.
 
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