Ah… Epic and Tim Sweeney didn’t win. They lost in court.
Your point does not contradict my point at all:
I never said they could.
Spotify (the biggest music streamer) and Epic (the biggest nothing as you mentioned) are European companies and the EU are there to further that interest of European Companies. It is #3 in the Aims of the EU (an official document describing its purpose). It is exactly because Apple are so big that this happened.
Apple charges 30% for popular apps and their developers.
Can't tell American from European companies - but make bold claims about the EU "bending over" for the bribes these companies paid.
Access to customer base includes communicating to them.
They haven’t stopped access to communicate with them. That is blatantly untrue. They have restricted what they can communicate, not access.
They did charge Spotify until last year (2023), at least their commission for long-running in-app commissions.
You know it is - or rather would be - 30% and not 15% for Spotify and Epic, if/once they're allowing new purchases/subscriptions through Apple.
Communication is a form of access to consumers (for marketing purposes).
No you made it seem like this was a new thing. This is an old thing and approval from apple is needed. The DMA abolished that approval process.
Only if approved by apple.
There is still an approval required from apple. And as I said above the smart abolished that approval.
The enterprise certification grants the applicant the ability to distribute third party apps. The applicant who is approved by apple is responsible for the approval process. You have to be a certified agency of some kind to get this certificate. So what you describe is not new news nor as free as that because that certificate can be yanked by apple.
What if you were in a burning building and there were two choices to exit. One is slightly shorter but has more turns. The longer path is straighter so, it could be faster. the shorter path has a turn that could accidentally be taken in the dark, and you might get lost, but more people are taking the shorter path so following the crowd could, cause less chance of getting lost. But the more people means it could be slower. While you were deciding the building collapsed due to the fire and now your dead, maybe no choices would have been better.
Plainly wrong.
Apple’s documentation clearly states that web distribution requires Apple’s approval.
Exactly that was my point: it’s not new.
They could be and they still can.
I’m really not sure what you mean here. Do you literally mean the 'model of security' which is basically 'apps need to be secure' (motherhood statement which means nothing) or do you mean the apps will continue to be secure in the same way they are now, moderated by Apple. Because Apple specifically say multiple times that they cannot ensure apps are secure and that this is the responsibility of the developer and market place.
Apple restricts installing a different OS onto my iPhone, iPad, ATV, etc. This is anti competitive behaviour and it must stop. Frankly, we should not have to wait for a regulator to force Apple (or Microsoft, etc.) to allow this. There should be a geometric multiple applied to damages for every year they are not in compliance. The consequence should be existential.
I’m not denying that. I'm just asking the question whether AppliedMicro is saying the apps downloaded from an alternative store are guaranteed just as safe. Make all the big boy choices you want, I don’t care.
What a load of BS. Have you ever tried installing XBox on a Nintendo, or Miele firmware on a Bosch dishwasher? How about trying to install Android OS on a Tesla…. Dream on…. Please try it, please….
That just made me LOL!
Now that…. 😂 It’s been that way forever…. And I pay YouTube prices for YouTube Premium. DM me and I’ll tell you how..
That I should be able to update the firmware on my Nintendo or Bosch dishwasher with what ever I choose to install I agree with you. This issue goes straight to the heart of right to repair. I should have the right repair any device or appliance I own.
And your ability to do those things is on you. No one is stopping you. If Tesla allowed you to put another OS on their system, they bear a responsibility to the safety of that car. Same things go for those other devices, but hopefully not to the same consequence. At what point does the manufacturer shed responsibility of a warranty or safety of an article they manufacture? Because you can do whatever you want with an iPhone, but you will lose warranty on that phone.
Then how did epic get approved? That wording is absolute nonsense. Apple can’t turn down any application without some aggravation.
What’s new is the lack of an approval process. See epic.
Corporate enterprise certifications are not the same as sideloading, unapproved app stores etc.
No, it’s lessened and probably will be worse for consumers.
No. It’s clearly not the same. Nuances matter.
I'm pretty sure some people are getting confused with all the rhetoric on this. Let’s face it, it’s become an absolute mess. Prior to the DMA, everyone knew their lane. Some didn’t like it and I understand that the EU are protecting and furthering their own interests. And clearly Apple whilst trying to protect their own strategies have always worked within the law (they have to), and have had to make some massive changes since the DMA has been inacted. And according to the ongoing EU they have still not met these requirements.
