Is Apple not thinking outside the box ? Have hey never? Seems all Apple knows and thinks, is whats best for us..... Without the user deciding what goes into a product... Sure, Apple has feedback, and probably listens, but at the end of the day, its still closed and Apple decides what's best for their users.. Security wise, Apple thinks their products are all "secure" but that's only because they don't allow anyone to mess it up.. They block it down themselves without even giving users a chance, the only way would be via Terminal. How can you call something secure when Apple don't even give people that chance in the first place ? The company is protecting us, not users protecting themselves. I'm guessing this all stems from UNIX, but Apple's probably more responsible for protecting their OS. It's like saying "We are all dumb users and we use Mac's, because Apple knows best." (the only exception to this "in part" would be Terminal) I still like being an Apple fan, but unfortunately, I hate the way Apple baby-sits us... We're not kids, and if we need to tinker, there is only one way "be an expert in using sudo commands" On Windows, i never had this .. 11 years strong and i never got infected, no malware, junk software trying to help me by staying how good it's doing, or anything.... Just smooth sailing all the way... So, why does Apple think different in the name of security ? Is it because they reckon if they protect us, then anyone can use a mac, and they can be assured it's safe? or is it just because they never trust us ? I don't believe this was all tired in with UNIX.. There must be something else.