Apple Asks LG Display for Urgent Supply of LCD Panels to Meet iPad Demand in Asia

[konqerror]

Back in the 2000s schools used to use Windows and kids would run run the old Office programs like Word, Excel and PowerPoint, but that’s pretty much history isn’t it?

Shouldn't learn to use a suite that has 90% of the market? Right...

 

[jimmy_uk]

2-3 week wait in the UK for ipad pro and AMK.

 

[Abazigal]

Where did you get your information? AFAIK, AirPods are selling in record numbers and Mac sales are down (although not 100% sure about that).

I think Apple mentioned somewhere in their last earnings report that they expect sales of iPads and Macs to increase for the next quarter due to WFH arrangements, as 2Q2020 did not fully capture the impact of the pandemic.

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My rationale is that with more people staying at home, wearables have less appeal as their usefulness is mainly outdoors. For example, I rarely wear my Apple Watch in the house or use its functionality. Though I do use my AirPods for conference calls, I don’t need to use them for listening to music or podcasts as I can just airplay them to my Apple TV in my room.

 

[MacBH928]

This is very interesting since iPad seemed Apple's weakest product, its more expensive than the competition, and we are in a pandemic where people are busy with the virus, saving money, not going to school, or lost their income. Very unexpected.

 

[Abazigal]

This is very interesting since iPad seemed Apple's weakest product, its more expensive than the competition, and we are in a pandemic where people are busy with the virus, saving money, not going to school, or lost their income. Very unexpected.

The entry level iPad isn't that expensive, and an argument can be made that in times of economic uncertainty, people gravitate towards products they perceived to be of higher quality because this is what offers maximum bang for your buck in the long run.

We can debate over the benefits of iPads vs laptops forever, but I do feel that iPads make a very compelling solution for home-based learning. Excellent screen, decent front camera for zoom calls and rear camera for when you want to take photos or scans of your work to submit to your teacher. I think it ticks enough boxes here to be a viable choice.

 

[sideshowuniqueuser]

In what country does Microsoft dominate at schools? Here in the US, Chrome has a large market share.

I’m not sure why schools would have any interest in running Windows. Back in the 2000s schools used to use Windows and kids would run run the old Office programs like Word, Excel and PowerPoint, but that’s pretty much history isn’t it?

Here in Australia, all high school kids (year 7 to 12) have a full laptop. Some schools have a mandated laptop all the kids have to buy, which is usually Windows. Some schools allow you to supply your own and choose either Windows or Mac, and that usually matches the parent's own use, so mostly Windows, and a few Macs. In public primary schools (year prep to 6) there's occasional iPad use, and they are owned and kept at the school. I'm not sure what the private primary schools use, but I'd guess iPads are standard. I haven't heard of any school using ChromeBooks. All schools that I know of use the MS Office suite. It makes total sense, as that is what is used in almost all workplaces.

 

[entropys]

At my kids’ BYOD private school it is mostly MBAs. I think it is because the cool kids had them. Office 365 is the only requirement, and the school used Teams to run to the normal timetable during the COVID19 school closures.
HP spectres would be the next most common, plus the occasional heavy gaming laptop for some boys, but they have weight and battery life issues. no chromebooks that I have seen.
Primary school tends to be iPads.

 

[malkovich87]

In what country does Microsoft dominate at schools? Here in the US, Chrome has a large market share.

I’m not sure why schools would have any interest in running Windows. Back in the 2000s schools used to use Windows and kids would run run the old Office programs like Word, Excel and PowerPoint, but that’s pretty much history isn’t it?

you overestimate Apple’s prevalence outside the US. In Europe, Apple is nowhere near as strong and is mostly present in private households. And even there it’s relatively rarely seen. I teach at a public school - perhaps one in 20 of my students uses a Mac at home. Close to all businesses and schools here are Microsoft-only. The only place I’ve seen Apple computers recently is at my kids’ pediatrician.

I’m talking about computing only. iPhones are hugely popular here in Switzerland - but in other European countries even that isn’t the case.

Google is nowhere to be seen except for its search engine. I doubt that more than a handful of people here even know what a Chromebook is. That also has to do with the fact that data protection laws for the public sector here generally make using google products impossible.

 

[Wanted797]

I expect a ramp-up in sales now that trackpad support has FINALLY arrived.

But MAN, my agony over whether or not to get an iPad to replace my Macs continues.

I really want one, but another kink in the hose is backing the iPad up.

They're not as self-contained as they should be and you basically need a Mac (or PC) for offline backup, unless you do it via the files app, which doesn't seem ideal.

I really hope Apple fully makes these completely independent with iPadOS 14. This WWDC can't come soon enough.

The harder I look, the better (fit for me) the MBA seems.

I get the keyboard and trackpad for "free", more ports, output to multiple external monitors, far more OS flexibility, plug and play for almost everything, easy backup, plugs into my existing infrastructure with minimum effort.

Buuut, Catalina, no touchscreen, no pencil, the lesser performance, the INFERIOR screen, no handheld, heavier, less FUN...argh!!!

So, more RAM, ability to output to 2 monitors (natively without mirroring), and full Mac independence. The three missing links for me.

Maybe I'm just getting impatient because the iPad is so close. SO CLOSE. And I've been waiting for SO LONG!

I really like the look of the iPad Pro, I had the first 12.9" for some time. The thing that gets me now is the price. Here in Australia the MBA is $1699 starting price, the iPad once you get the keyboard & pencil I'm looking at $2300 which is MBP territory.

 

[Winni]

In what country does Microsoft dominate at schools? Here in the US, Chrome has a large market share.

Well. There's a whole world out there where things are VERY different.

I know exactly one person in Germany who owns a Chromebook - these devices do not appear on anybody's radar here.

I know of zero schools that use Google products or services - for German schools, these web-based services are a no-go for legal and data protection reasons, and that also includes Microsoft Office 365 online services (not the desktop products, only the online services) or any other cloud-based product for that matter.

As for technology, outside the US the main computing platforms are Windows (desktop, notebook, hybrids like MS Surface - which is very popular), various Linux distributions, mostly Ubuntu (made by Canonical, a UK-based company) and Debian (made by a global community) (server) and Android on mobile devices and TVs. Unlike in the US, in Germany we also buy a lot of AMD CPUs instead of Intel processors.

 

[Isengardtom]

Pro style bezels for the lower priced iPads would be lovely, but considering Apple it’s likely they wanna keep that as a Pro thing for now.

Probably coming to iPad Air later this year, but doubt if they would include it in the cheaper basic iPad line

 

[Blackwell]

iPads are really perfect for remote learning, because they're mostly self-manageable. And they're cheap, relatively speaking. Why buy a crippled chromebook when you can get an iPad for a bit more? Sure it's 32GB, but it's fine for kids. And you can use it for other stuff, like Netflix and games.

"crippled chromebook" I had $2500 USD ready for the MBP two years ago, returned it and got a 15 inch ACER (under $250 on my front porch) and couldn't be happier. Two USB-C ports, HDMI, and happy tabs. Oh ya, boots so fast. AND I don't have to go to the Apple store. Don't need dongles either!

 

[krfr]

I guess it’s still good in the fact that they’re trying to get the supply to meet the demand. This will help those who need them for education.

 

[Gasu E.]

They're not as self-contained as they should be and you basically need a Mac (or PC) for offline backup, unless you do it via the files app, which doesn't seem ideal.

I doubt it will ever happen. I think Apple sees offline backup as a dinosaur. In fact, that's how they see offline anything, with the understanding that in 2020, there's still some times when it's needed.

 

[Darth Tulhu]

I really like the look of the iPad Pro, I had the first 12.9" for some time. The thing that gets me now is the price. Here in Australia the MBA is $1699 starting price, the iPad once you get the keyboard & pencil I'm looking at $2300 which is MBP territory.

Price is definitely an issue at first glance.

Although to be fair, the iPad is self-contained without all the accessories, so I don't believe it is priced unfairly.

Thus, it is the cost of "detach-ability" (the ability to leave your keyboard and mouse/trackpad at home) that you're paying for.

As for me, I could use my existing iMac keyboard and trackpad (if I'm not mistaken), and the pencil is nice but I don't really expect to use it very much, if at all.

The biggest knock against the iPad for me right now, when compared to the MBA, is the amount of RAM in it. I think all the other shortcomings can and will be addressed via software.

For this much money, I want a machine that'll LAST, so having just 6 GB of RAM makes me nervous.
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I doubt it will ever happen. I think Apple sees offline backup as a dinosaur. In fact, that's how they see offline anything, with the understanding that in 2020, there's still some times when it's needed.

I really hope you're wrong. And given Apple's moves with the iPad lately, that hope is strong.

Buuut, I've been let down before.

 

[Wanted797]

Price is definitely an issue at first glance.

Although to be fair, the iPad is self-contained without all the accessories, so I don't believe it is priced unfairly.

Thus, it is the cost of "detach-ability" (the ability to leave your keyboard and mouse/trackpad at home) that you're paying for.

As for me, I could use my existing iMac keyboard and trackpad (if I'm not mistaken), and the pencil is nice but I don't really expect to use it very much, if at all.

The biggest knock against the iPad for me right now, when compared to the MBA, is the amount of RAM in it. I think all the other shortcomings can and will be addressed via software.

For this much money, I want a machine that'll LAST, so having just 6 GB of RAM makes me nervous.
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I really hope you're wrong. And given Apple's moves with the iPad lately, that hope is strong.

Buuut, I've been let down before.

iPads last. My original one would have been fine but I stopped needing it for work hence sold it on.

I had a mini 2 for 5 years and now have a 3 year old 2017 iPad. I can guarantee you’ll get 5 years If not more from a pro.

 

[Darth Tulhu]

iPads last. My original one would have been fine but I stopped needing it for work hence sold it on.

I had a mini 2 for 5 years and now have a 3 year old 2017 iPad. I can guarantee you’ll get 5 years If not more from a pro.

That is still a short term. And I cannot use my original iPad for anything meaningful, where my Macs from the same period are still useful today.

My concern is related to the investment of around a grand. Still, I guess I just need to take the plunge, and keep one of my Macs around.

 

[Wanted797]

That is still a short term. And I cannot use my original iPad for anything meaningful, where my Macs from the same period are still useful today.

My concern is related to the investment of around a grand. Still, I guess I just need to take the plunge, and keep one of my Macs around.

I think 5 years is pretty impressive for any tech. The fact Macs can last past that is just awesome.

With portabilty comes downsides though.