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Apple Asks Shareholders Attending Tomorrow's Meeting to Follow CDC Coronavirus Quarantine Measures
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Part of the reason COVID-19 is spreading more rapidly than SARS or MERS is that its symptoms are much milder for most people. The majority of cases are said to cause moderate cold or flu-like symptoms, with people able to go to work, walk around, and travel. Also, many people appear to be contagious well before they start to feel sick, so it's hard to contain.
SARS and MERS were much more severe, basically knocking people down from the moment they fell ill, making it much easier to control, but also much deadlier. From the time you get SARS or MERS, you are in a battle for your life. With COVID-19, it's deceptively mild so it's easy to spread. I believe the 2-3% mortality rate from China is probably overall accurate. I also think the majority of fatal cases will be in the elderly and people with compromised health. Not that it makes it any less worrying.
I agree, I think the mortality rate will eventually drop down to 2-3% as more time passes. What worries me most is COVID-19 spreading to places with subpar medical infrastructure, like Africa. So far, it hasn’t been an issue, but it could be real soon.
My issue is with people saying “oh it’s just like the flu, the flu kills more, nothing to see here” etc etc. All evidence so far suggests COVID-19 having the potential to be much worse than the flu, despite sharing similar symptoms.
My only guess is that it’s people incorrectly parroting what they’ve heard. Like you alluded to, they have likely heard that more people have died from flu this year — which is absolutely true — but that’s not the same thing as a death rate. The flu’s death rate is, of course, lower than that of this virus, with zero uncertainty to that effect.
People mixing up mortality and lethality...
The difference:
Lethality: How many % die of those infected, usually expressed in per cent.
Mortality: How many % of the population died, usually expressed in absolute numbers based on for which country you are reading it.
Mortality can only be determined after the whole thing is over, when looking at a specific timeframe. I.e. in last season XXXXX people died of the flu in XXXXX.
In other words: Mortality is unknown as the disease is still spreading.
And yes, when people say mortality of Flu is higher, then they are right. So far. (Less than 3k people died worldwide of the Wuhan virus, so much less than from the flu)
Lethality, however, measures how deadly a pathogen is. The seasonal flu has much less than 0.1% iirc. And there we can keep those with a weaker immune system protected using a vaccine.
The Wuhan virus on the other hand has 1-3% with good health care... and like 10% without it (Wuhan area dead VS recovered is pretty much 1:10).
The difference:
Lethality: How many % die of those infected, usually expressed in per cent.
Mortality: How many % of the population died, usually expressed in absolute numbers based on for which country you are reading it.
Mortality can only be determined after the whole thing is over, when looking at a specific timeframe. I.e. in last season XXXXX people died of the flu in XXXXX.
In other words: Mortality is unknown as the disease is still spreading.
And yes, when people say mortality of Flu is higher, then they are right. So far. (Less than 3k people died worldwide of the Wuhan virus, so much less than from the flu)
Lethality, however, measures how deadly a pathogen is. The seasonal flu has much less than 0.1% iirc. And there we can keep those with a weaker immune system protected using a vaccine.
The Wuhan virus on the other hand has 1-3% with good health care... and like 10% without it (Wuhan area dead VS recovered is pretty much 1:10).
14 days quarantine? That's outdated info. The latest data out of China shows that 28 days is required... But I guess it doesn't become "official" until CDC states it, lol... Proceed to this meeting at your own risk.
i thought people were banned from coming into the US who’ve been to China in the last 14 days. How are people flying in from China for this event?
Why is Apple allowing "attendees traveling from China" to even set foot in the 2020 shareholders meeting? 
Due to the current coronavirus threat, this is extremely irresponsible behavior from Tim Cook. But it's no surprise, though. Tim Cook cares more about shareholders than the health, lives, and well-being of ordinary people, including the vast majority of Apple's customers.
Due to the current coronavirus threat, this is extremely irresponsible behavior from Tim Cook. But it's no surprise, though. Tim Cook cares more about shareholders than the health, lives, and well-being of ordinary people, including the vast majority of Apple's customers.
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That's exactly it, it's just a bit of a flu for most people, and only dangerous for the old and sick. That said, I don't want to lose my parents prematurely, so I don't want it to spread, but I'm not worried about it for myself and other family.
it would be great if this coronavirus leads to a vaccine that not only cures coronavirus but HIV also which kills more people each year than Cancer and 37 Million Infected
About time they got off their @ss and did something about HIV
they are already using HIV drugs to treat the coronavirus.
About time they got off their @ss and did something about HIV
they are already using HIV drugs to treat the coronavirus.
I surely wouldn't trust a corrupt and incompetent organization like WHO.
You shouldn't either.
Dr. Nancy Messonnier with the CDC is extremely concerned-really concerned.
Scary stuff according to her.
Why are these people even traveling from China? Ever hear of a phone?
Would it really hurt anything to institute a travel ban until the CDC deems it safe? Give it a few weeks to calm down before letting anyone else travel to/from China.
Would it really hurt anything to institute a travel ban until the CDC deems it safe? Give it a few weeks to calm down before letting anyone else travel to/from China.
I think too many people are too arrogant and can't comprehend how bad things can get with this virus. The fact that the virus shows symptoms after a time frame of up to 14-27 days it is a problem itself. The overall impact on a global scale is enormous if it gets out of control. Oe more thing for the arrogant people. If you have ever been very sick and haven't learned something from that experience then your arrogance is as dangerous or even more dangerous than all the viruses combined for this society. Do something and seek help.
That’s a lot of uses of the word “arrogant,” and I don’t think it means that.
When was the last time you had a meeting over the phone? Its kind of difficult to send papers to people.. And no ones gonna wait for the postie nowdays.
I guess these days. if you can't physically go anywhere, you won't have a job anymore. China's already lived a few fews, a few months even, so its not gonna get better.
Businesses could close and people not travel, but pressures comes as no one makes money anymore.
Something's gotta give.
I think it's also a human tendency for some people to downplay things that are out of their control and just continue approaching everything as if nothing was different. Indeed, I think that is a wise and good attitude to have in many cases, but it's not a wise attitude to have all the time.
Some people also have a need to see themselves as smarter than the people around them and are just inclined to view all official information as suspect. I have a friend like that. Anyone who heeds official warnings is a dim automaton who's easily controlled by scare tactics. CoV-19 will have to end up being the pandemic to end all pandemics before he'll stop deriding people who took precautions as idiots who can't think for themselves.
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Lets invite people from all over the world to our headquarters, as the world is preparing for a possible pandemic, to our corporate headquarters. Not a smart move at all. It wouldn't surprise me at all if at least 1 person brings it in.