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You said that this patent meant you couldn't have a touch screen in your car. Seems like a fairly clear statement to me, and clearly false.

I've ALREADY got one in my car so that makes no sense. Clearly, I'm talking about the patent being issued and clearly it's NOT for a single touch (duh).

Why do you think something has to be amazing or special to be patented??
If its a new way of doing something, you can get a patent for it (yes, thats an extremely dumbed down version of the process.)

Because forbidding people to use basic things like multiple fingers so one person or company can monopolize a market is STUPID to be blunt. It impedes competition, consumer choice and innovation and promotes nothing positive what-so-ever (just GREED). That's why.
 
I've ALREADY got one in my car so that makes no sense. Clearly, I'm talking about the patent being issued and clearly it's NOT for a single touch (duh).
I'm really sorry that my ESP wasn't working correctly when I wrote that, so I had no choice but to go by the words you wrote at face value.

YOU SAID THAT YOU COULDN'T HAVE A TOUCHSCREEN IN YOUR CAR AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THIS PATENT. You misspoke. Admit it and move on.
 
Edit: Every article on the iphones screen ive found says capacitive touchscreen, meaning it deals with electrical currents.

I had seen articles saying it used FTIR (frustrated total internal reflection), which senses light (infra-red). Certainly an electrostatic capacitance sensor is used to detect the phone's proximity to your face, but that's probably a different sensor. But, I think the articles indicating FTIR were probably confusing the iPhone with Jeff Han's work on multi-touch around the same time period.

Here's an interesting page which mentions some Apple patents which do in fact use capacitance (of course, many things get patented and never make it into production):

http://www.touchuserinterface.com/2008_08_01_archive.html

But in the end, the means for detecting multi-touch is not a key aspect of the patent. The claims are made as broad as possible, so the invention would not be limited to LCD screens, mobile phones, capacitive multi-touch, etc.
 
I'm really sorry that my ESP wasn't working correctly when I wrote that, so I had no choice but to go by the words you wrote at face value.

YOU SAID THAT YOU COULDN'T HAVE A TOUCHSCREEN IN YOUR CAR AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THIS PATENT. You misspoke. Admit it and move on.

I'm sorry you cannot understand when something is said in the context of the thread's topic (a multi-touch patent) and that I should have S-P-E-L-L-E-D it out for you. Did you READ the previous paragraph at all??? It talks about MULTI-Touch over and over and over again, so it should be OBVIOUS that the next paragraph is STILL talking about the same SUBJECT matter, which is the multi-touch patent. If you cannot make grammatical connections, it might be time to take a refresher course in English writing. Now I suggest that you get over it or take some meds as you clearly come across as about to have a seizure.
 
I'm sorry you cannot understand when something is said in the context of the thread's topic (a multi-touch patent)
I want a blue hippo as a pet/delivery service (to take things to my parents, neighbours, etc.). How does this relate? Well, the thread's topic is a multi-touch patent, so obviously I want a multi-touch blue hippo. But now I can only have one if Apple chooses to modify hippo DNA.
Did you READ the previous paragraph at all??? It talks about MULTI-Touch over and over and over again . . .
I read it; it mentions multi-touch ONCE.
. . . so it should be OBVIOUS that the next paragraph is STILL talking about the same SUBJECT matter, which is the multi-touch patent.
Who was your English teacher? A paragraph break usually indicates a change in subject, while still within the overall topic of the discussion. You said: so now I can't have touch screens in the car that make my life easier because Apple is anti-competition (as usual). There was no mention of multi-touch. You flat-out stated "touch screens"--that might have been linked to multi-touch in your head, but we read what you write, not what you think. There was no clear grammatical link that you were referring to multi-touch, the overall topic notwithstanding. This is especially evident when we consider that a lot of people here and in other forums do think that "Apple has patented the touch screen!!!!!!!ONE!!!ELEVEN!!!!!"

To put it simply, you said "Apple got a multi-touch patent so now I can't have a touch-screen in my car."
If you cannot make grammatical connections, it might be time to take a refresher course in English writing.
Oh, now that's rich considering the VERY BASIC error you just made.
 
I had seen articles saying it used FTIR (frustrated total internal reflection), which senses light (infra-red). Certainly an electrostatic capacitance sensor is used to detect the phone's proximity to your face, but that's probably a different sensor. But, I think the articles indicating FTIR were probably confusing the iPhone with Jeff Han's work on multi-touch around the same time period.

Here's an interesting page which mentions some Apple patents which do in fact use capacitance (of course, many things get patented and never make it into production):

http://www.touchuserinterface.com/2008_08_01_archive.html

But in the end, the means for detecting multi-touch is not a key aspect of the patent. The claims are made as broad as possible, so the invention would not be limited to LCD screens, mobile phones, capacitive multi-touch, etc.

Well, dont take this too hard, but the iphone screen is deffinatly capacitive touch.
 
another one of those Monopoly Patents

What a ridiculous statment. This is a legitimate creative idea and a company should absolutely be able to patent it. Its not even close to a monopoly patent since multi touch is hardly something that is required with touch screen devices. It just gives Apple's touch screen devices a clear distinction in funtionality. This is why patents exist and if an idea such as this isnt considered patent material then neither are the other 90% of patent's currently in existance.

This is just a typical anti Apple comment.
 
Did you READ the previous paragraph at all???

I'd hardly lecture someone about reading a paragraph when you yourself, in at least 8 posts commenting on a patent, have yet to read the actual contents of the patent itself.
 
I want a blue hippo as a pet/delivery service (to take things to my parents, neighbours, etc.)

A blue hippo eh? So we have a Wondercow talking about blue hippos in a thread about a multi-touch patent and I should wonder why YOU are confused? :p

I read it; it mentions multi-touch ONCE.

How many times should I repeat myself about the thread topic matter before it sinks in that's what I'm talking about? The meaning is IMPLIED when I say touch screen. It's like using a pronoun. I don't have to say "Wondercow" every time I refer to you. Or do I? Maybe I do.

Who was your English teacher? A paragraph break usually indicates a change in subject, while still within the overall topic of the discussion. You said: so

Not if it's in a paper about a single subject. This thread is about multi-touch. I mentioned multi-touch; I talked about it; I made a comparison. Where did the overall thread subject change? Why would I suddenly start talking about single touch when it has zero relevance? It'd be like suddenly talking about blue hippos for no rhyme or reason instead of implied connecting logic from one point to the next. The word "now" (the word "so" is also implied, BTW) implies a CONCLUSION and thus indicates clear implied connecting logic. But maybe Wondercows have problems making logical connections?


now I can't have touch screens in the car that make my life easier because Apple is anti-competition (as usual).
There was no mention of multi-touch.

There doesn't need to be. "Now" is a connecting conclusion from the previous paragraph (as does 'easier', which implies making things simpler than they are now with existing single touch devices), which flat out states and agrees with the thread subject matter that I'm talking about Apple's multi-touch patent. Why would I talk about a single touch patent when single touch has been around for several decades? Why would I imply something like a Garmin unit could be made EASIER in a future tense when they already exist with single touch? Once again, logic dictates an implied connection to the subject matter, which is "Apple Awarded iPhone and Multi-Touch Patent". Where do you see or how do you even conclude that SINGLE-Touch comes from MULTI-Touch? Apparently, you need it spelled out for you. I cannot imply your name with "he"; I have to say "Wondercow" EVERY TIME. I'll note that for future reference so the Wondercow is not confused.

You flat-out stated "touch screens"--that might have been linked to multi-touch in your head, but we read what you write, not what you think.

I think it's more like Wondercow does not think about what Wondercow reads. Wondercow cannot apparently make logical connections.

There was no clear grammatical link that you were referring to multi-touch, the overall topic notwithstanding. This is especially evident when we

(So) "now" implies a link Wondercow. Is this now becoming clear to Wondercow or does Wondercow need more help?

consider that a lot of people here and in other forums do think that "Apple has patented the touch screen!!!!!!!ONE!!!ELEVEN!!!!!"

Macworld has an article right now that asks those questions. Apparently, they are confused what 'multi' means as well. Maybe Wondercow could venture over there and set them straight. :D

I'd hardly lecture someone about reading a paragraph when you yourself, in at least 8 posts commenting on a patent, have yet to read the actual contents of the patent itself.

I'll let you know when I find the spare time to read the "mammoth 358 page" (as Mac Rumours itself describes it) document of which you speak. Somehow I do not believe for one second that you yourself have read it either. Unless you personally have a vested interest in producing a multi-touch device, there would be no need for you to do so and neither would I. That in now way changes the fact I disagree with the patent and copyright systems used in the U.S. on a purely philosophical level. I am not one for greed and therefore am not a big believer in the Capitalistic economic system. Just look where it has gotten us today.

What a ridiculous statment. This is a legitimate creative idea and a company should absolutely be able to patent it. Its not even close to a monopoly patent since multi touch is hardly something that is required with touch screen devices. It just gives Apple's touch screen devices a clear distinction in funtionality. This is why patents exist and if an idea such as this isnt considered patent material then neither are the other 90% of patent's currently in existance.

This is just a typical anti Apple comment.

What is a monopoly patent? Is that a patent on the board game? :D

In any case, you might as well say that a car is not needed to travel and therefore having a patent on the automobile gives say Ford a clear distinction in travel capability. Why should anyone else be allowed to produce cars? In other words, you are suggesting that limiting future electronic devices to a single finger simply because some office decided Apple should own the patent on the entire idea is a GOOD thing. Well there are more things in life than iPhones and IMO no one company should be allowed to patent basic input methods. I use more than 1 finger on my guitar at the same time. That should be MORE THAN ENOUGH pre-existing proof of a multi-touch concept that preempt Apple from getting a patent on an input method. Imagine if only one company could produce keyboards.
 
take the link in the article and scroll down to the "Claims" section. I promise you that out of the 300 some-odd pages, it's the only part that really matters and is it's a meager 2-3 pages.

I'll let you know when I find the spare time to read the "mammoth 358 page" (as Mac Rumours itself describes it) document of which you speak. Somehow I do not believe for one second that you yourself have read it either.

Quoted in order of post date. To be very specific, it's only 20 paragraphs, most of which are one sentence long.
 
A blue hippo eh? So we have a Wondercow talking about blue hippos in a thread about a multi-touch patent and I should wonder why YOU are confused?
I'm not confused. I am a linguist and the way in which you defend your writing simply shows a lack of quality understanding of the English language on your part. I'll point out that I'm not holding to some little-known rules of grammar or language that have been all but dormant for centuries—the conclusions you reach in defense of your sloppiness are breaches of basic rules of language.
How many times should I repeat myself about the thread topic matter before it sinks in that's what I'm talking about? The meaning is IMPLIED when I say touch screen.
Really? I want to talk about a touch-screen, not a multi-touch touch screen, how do I set this apart?

I think that this debate is silly; I mean, a touch-screen device is common these days, so common that the next natural step of evolution would be a touch-screen. First the touch-screen then the touch-screen then a better touch-screen that has touch-screen features. Obviously the touch-screen is better than the touch-screen and ever since the touch-screen the touch-screen has been on the horizon. A touch-screen patent for a touch-screen?
It's like using a pronoun. I don't have to say "Wondercow" every time I refer to you. Or do I? Maybe I do.
A pronoun is a definite part of speech and has a defined place in the language, including rules for usage. When one uses a pronoun as per the rules of English the meaning is clear Henry is a wonderful guy; he gave his time to the orphanage. We understand the meaning of the sentence because we know from its structure and linguistic rules that he refers to Henry. The team hated to travel in the new buses—they were dirty and smelled of diesel fumes. Here the pronoun "they" could mean either the team or the buses (ambiguous reference and implied antecedents).

In your writing there is nothing denoting that you mean "multi-touch touch-screen" when you say "touch-screen". You follow no rules for clearing up the ambiguity. You could have made any number of simple modifications to accomplish this but you chose to remain vague.

In response to: A paragraph break usually indicates a change in subject, while still within the overall topic of the discussion
Not if it's in a paper about a single subject. . . .
Most certainly so! A paper about power steering may refer to standard methods of steering, a comparison with power breaks, or the impact of power steering on the fuel economy of the car. Each would be required to be set apart in separate paragraphs (and each would be devoted more than one paragraph as the subjects were further defined).
. . . This thread is about multi-touch. I mentioned multi-touch . . .
But not the "over and over and over" you claimed.
. . . I talked about it; I made a comparison. Where did the overall thread subject change?
When you failed to make a clear reference. You'll note that many others in this thread have discussed subjects other than multi-touch proper. Do you think that each and every one of those posts and their references were IMPLYING (to use your emphasis) a definite and presupposed link to "multi-touch"?
Why would I suddenly start talking about single touch when it has zero relevance?
You tell us since you did it.
It'd be like suddenly talking about blue hippos for no rhyme or reason instead of implied connecting logic from one point to the next.
Like I said, I want a multi-touch hippo. That topic does not have "no rhyme or reason"; the thread is about multi-touch so there is "implied connecting logic" is there not? Of course you'll disagree because a multi-touch hippo is silly and seems wholly irrelevant, whereas a "touch-screen" is so close to the topic that you assumed people would make the connection that you had in your head. The problem is that speaking generically of a noun or adjective that can stand on its own causes problems such as this. When one uses a generic noun one must remove all ambiguity for the listener lest he get confused as to the meaning.
In response to:
MVM: now I can't have touch screens in the car that make my life easier because Apple is anti-competition (as usual).
WC: There was no mention of multi-touch.


There doesn't need to be. "Now" is a connecting conclusion from the previous paragraph (as does [sic; is?] 'easier', which implies making things simpler than they are now with existing single touch devices), which flat out states and agrees with the thread subject matter that I'm talking about Apple's multi-touch patent.

There does need to be to remove ambiguity: Let's talk about "losing screws". Magnus hit his head on the table and a screw fell out of it!. The topic is clearly stated, but which object has a screw loose?

Now is first and foremost an adverb meaning "at the present time" or "as a result of a recent happening". It is also a conjunction. As a conjunction it should be avoided at the beginning of a sentence unless it is entirely clear that it doesn't mean "at the present time." This holds especially true for the beginning of a paragraph since a paragraph begins a new subject. Need me to illustrate it?

As a result of Apple's multi-touch patent I can't have touch screens in the car that make my life easier This implies that Apple's patent somehow covers regular touch-screen devices. (FWIW "easier" is an adjective and doesn't function as a conjunction. It simply describes the quality of the noun "life". And if I want to get really pedantic: your statement is actually that the car makes your life easier.)
Why would I imply something like a Garmin unit could be made EASIER in a future tense when they already exist with single touch?
<pedantic>English does not have a future tense. A verb changes tense through a modification (i.e. a suffix, or lack thereof) of the word itself (e.g. I run to the store, I ran to the store, I bob for apples, I bobbed for apples). In English we generally speak of future events in present tense using modal verbs: I will go to the store Here "will" is the present tense but it signifies a future even.... or does it? I will go to the store tomorrow—future event, I will go to the store right now—present event, I would go to the store tomorrow but my car broke down—Past and future! ("Would" is the past tense of "will".)</pedantic>
Once again, logic dictates an implied connection to the subject matter, which is "Apple Awarded iPhone and Multi-Touch Patent". Where do you see or how do you even conclude that SINGLE-Touch comes from MULTI-Touch? Apparently, you need it spelled out for you. I cannot imply your name with "he"; I have to say "Wondercow" EVERY TIME. I'll note that for future reference so the Wondercow is not confused.
See above on grammatical rules of pronouns, ambiguous connections, etc.
I think it's more like Wondercow does not think about what Wondercow reads. Wondercow cannot apparently make logical connections.
(So) "now" implies a link Wondercow. Is this now becoming clear to Wondercow or does Wondercow need more help?
That could also be considered a method of formal speech (albeit to an extreme). That's third-person singular but I bet you were trying to drive home a point about second-person singular.
I'll let you know when I find the spare time to read the "mammoth 358 page" (as Mac Rumours itself describes it) document of which you speak. Somehow I do not believe for one second that you yourself have read it either.
I never said nor implied that I have read it. I responded within my field of expertise to an attack (and an asinine one at that) that you made against another poster. Nothing more, nothing less.

If you'd like to debate the intricacies of the English language I'm more than happy to do so—I rarely find the opportunity to teach anymore and it would prove a refreshing distraction.
 
I'm not confused. I am a linguist and the way in which you defend your writing simply shows a lack of quality understanding of the English language on your part.

Yes, that's why I have a minor in English. You, in contrast, simply show yourself to be anally retentive in the worst possible sense. By this, I mean that my meaning was perfectly clear to anyone with more than an ounce of logic in their brain by relevance of an inference about car touch screens in relation to a post about a multi-touch patent, NO OTHER POSSIBLE MEANING could possibly be ascribed without showing a complete inability to think, but instead of recognizing said meaning and moving on, you chose to jump in and play grammar queen, thereby showing your utter contempt for the subject matter at hand and any discussion thereof and instead embarking upon a quest to make someone look foolish. Now whether or not I SHOULD have prefaced the words "touch screen" with "multi-" is beside the point in regards to the original reply by another person. Instead of asking for clarification on a matter of seeming pontification, said poster chose to engage in drama queen pursuits. You followed suit as well. One need only examine the sheer length of your post and the morbid tedium it implies to gauge this to be true and all over the lack of "multi-" before "touch screen". Nowhere in any said posts do you have anything to add to the actual discussion thereof. I rest my case.
 
Yes, that's why I have a minor in English.
Oh well then, I guess I should just bow out now. You have a minor in English—a minor! I guess it's the extra courses where they teach "single space after a period" (we all make mistakes—I've noticed quite a few punctuation errors in my post—but you use two or three spaces after every period) and "how to avoid ambiguity in pronoun/antecedent agreements."

NO OTHER POSSIBLE MEANING could possibly be ascribed without showing a complete inability to think

Typical kid; you think the degree speaks for you. Your words could, and do, mean as a result of Apple's multi-touch patent I can't have touch screens in the car that make my life easier. This is a logical meaning since it begins a paragraph and fits within the context of the discussion. You wouldn't be the first poster here to misunderstand Apple's patent and assume it covered all touch-screen devices.

Oh, and Mr minor-in-English, that italicized sentence—the one you wrote (save for my replacing "now") says that your car makes your life easier. You do seem to have pronoun relation problems; maybe you were sick that day.

This part I really like:
By this, I mean that my meaning was perfectly clear to anyone with more than an ounce of logic in their brain by relevance of an inference about car touch screens in relation to a post about a multi-touch patent, NO OTHER POSSIBLE MEANING could possibly be ascribed without showing a complete inability to think, but instead of recognizing said meaning and moving on, you chose to jump in and play grammar queen, thereby showing your utter contempt for the subject matter at hand and any discussion thereof and instead embarking upon a quest to make someone look foolish.

Do you not cover run-on sentences in your curriculum? Your posts are hostile and "my way or the highway" in tone and language. I'll always jump in when someone attacks another forum member without provocation—bullies are never welcome. In the end, instead of simply saying "yeah, I can see how what I wrote could be taken that way" you act the fool and make every attempt to justify your mistake by using faulty logic. You flaunt your logic and "thinking ability" while making asinine statements and flouting the knowledge and experience of others. You do this using "English" as a base, but you can't even get that right! The only one here making you look foolish is you.

Now whether or not I SHOULD have prefaced the words "touch screen" with "multi-" is beside the point in regards . . .

The phrase is with (or in) regard "regard", no "s". I'll grant you that it's a minor mistake.

. . . to the original reply by another person. Instead of asking for clarification on a matter of seeming pontification, said poster chose to engage in drama queen pursuits. You followed suit as well. One need only examine the sheer length of your post and the morbid tedium it implies to gauge this to be true and all over the lack of "multi-" before "touch screen". Nowhere in any said posts do you have anything to add to the actual discussion thereof. I rest my case.

I see a lot of internet bravado but very little substance. My post was lengthy—I should think that an English minor would be quite used to reading verbose prose—but rife with content. Your posts are full of chutzpah and ridicule (the latter I have used in kind in this post) but little else. I don't think you're an English minor. You make far too many mistakes in sentence structure, word use, proper grammar, etc. Besides, an English student, let alone a graduate with a minor degree, would recognize the fact that the sentence or paragraph in question is ambiguous. Any English student should be able to see the dual meaning, if only when pointed out, and say "hey, I didn't mean it that way but yeah, it can be taken another way." No, I think you're just backed into a corner after having bitten off more than you can chew and that was the best you could come up with to counter me being a linguist.

Or I could be wrong and you've wasted your time and money on a program from which you've gained nothing.
 
Oh well then, I guess I should just bow out now. You have a minor in English—a minor! I guess it's the extra courses where they teach "single space after a period" (we all make mistakes—I've noticed quite a few punctuation errors in my post—but you use two or three spaces after every period) and "how to avoid ambiguity in pronoun/antecedent agreements."

I'm not typing a paper here, Mr. Cow. You can't even indent paragraphs on the Internet and you assume that a double space will work? I ALWAYS routinely double space after a sentence because that's what was taught (I'm not saying I don't miss it sometimes), but did it even occur to you that the forums here don't RECOGNIZE a double space and show it as a single anyway? Well, that's EXACTLY what it does. There's also disagreement about whether it's even relevant in today's modern computer world (http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/typespacing/a/onetwospaces.htm). Of course, the ambiguity of your own sentence above makes it hard to discern whether you are promoting or chastising double spacing after sentences. Who can tell when your writing is so poor to begin with? Just reread what you typed above to see what I mean. Just what ARE you trying to say?

Regardless, I gave up on exacting perfection for casual writing a LONG time ago and I especially don't care if I miss a comma on a casual Mac forum talking to an anal retentive know-it-all. You seem to read the words, but miss the meaning over and over again. There's more to life than nit-picking and a lot more to living than worrying about a grammar mistake. In pointing out my minor (my two degrees are in Electronic Engineering), it is merely to indicate you are not dealing with a red-neck moron here, but rather I'm well aware of who you are and what you are doing and I'm not even slightly impressed. You are the worst sort of online presence and add NOTHING to any discussion. You sole goal in life is to pick apart other people's mistakes and shove it in their faces. I've seen your posts in other forums on issues like copyrights (a recent post regarding someone's opinion of abandonware comes to mind). Only YOUR opinion matters. Everyone else is a criminal or scum. Until you learn that you are nothing special and other people are allowed to have differing opinions from you and still have value, you will continue to find yourself right back where you started. I know my words mean nothing to you. I know your kind. So I will let you continue on your way to nowhere and ignore your pointless blabbering from now on.
 
Yes, that's why I have a minor in English ... I rest my case.

In other words,
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I'm not typing a paper here, Mr. Cow. You can't even indent paragraphs on the Internet and you assume that a double space will work? I ALWAYS routinely double space after a sentence because that's what was taught (I'm not saying I don't miss it sometimes), but did it even occur to you that the forums here don't RECOGNIZE a double space and show it as a single anyway?
You've so missed the point. As I said you are using two spaces after each period. You shouldn't. The double space came about with the rise of typewriters (I won't get into the nitty-gritty of it here). Properly one should use a single space after a full stop.
Of course, the ambiguity of your own sentence above makes it hard to discern whether you are promoting or chastising double spacing after sentences. Who can tell when your writing is so poor to begin with? Just reread what you typed above to see what I mean. Just what ARE you trying to say?
It's interesting that you find I guess it's the extra courses where they teach "single space after a period" a difficult hurdle. You can attempt to ridicule me as much as you like; it only shows your own deficiency.
Regardless . . .
At least you didn't say "irregardless"
I gave up on exacting perfection for casual writing a LONG time ago and I especially don't care if I miss a comma on a casual Mac forum talking to an anal retentive know-it-all.
If you've "given up" on proper, understandable communication don't be surprised when others don't understand you. As for being a know-it-all you may label me as you like. I will say, however, that I know English and that is all I have commented on here. I don't know everything, but I do more than you when it comes to the language. The only reason this is an issue is because you based your unprovoked attack on written English.
You seem to read the words, but miss the meaning over and over again.
Says the person who refuses to admit that his statement was vague and, at best, could be taken in an unintended way.
There's more to life than nit-picking and a lot more to living than worrying about a grammar mistake.
So sayeth Magnus, he who insists his words can have one meaning and only one meaning.
In pointing out my minor (my two degrees are in Electronic Engineering), it is merely to indicate you are not dealing with a red-neck moron here, but rather I'm well aware of who you are and what you are doing and I'm not even slightly impressed.
I don't care if you're impressed and that is not the point. If you profess to be not a moron and you back that with a minor in English, then you should—at a minimum—acknowledge that you were ambiguous. If you're going to be rude to people and insult them for not understanding your words you can't then say "well this is casual and I'm not going for perfection."
You are the worst sort of online presence and add NOTHING to any discussion. You sole goal in life is to pick apart other people's mistakes and shove it in their faces. I've seen your posts in other forums on issues like copyrights (a recent post regarding someone's opinion of abandonware comes to mind).
If you've seen my other posts then you've seen that I defend others and I don't put up with bullying. You've also seen the posts where I help people, where we had a multi-page discussion about dictionaries and English usage, and where I try to combat the trolls who post misinformation. If I really wanted to pick apart your post, or anyone else's, I could (and I have at times) but I don't; I only give what's needed.

I'm quite active on Macworld's forums and yes, my comment was And here we see the it's-ok-to-steal-from-anyone-that-I-think-has-enough-money monster rearing its ugly, selfish head. Do tell how that comment "pick apart other people's mistakes and shove it in their faces."

Now, if you're going to paint me with that brush let's take a look a recent post of yours:
I'm sorry you cannot understand when something is said in the context of the thread's topic (a multi-touch patent) and that I should have S-P-E-L-L-E-D it out for you. Did you READ the previous paragraph at all??? It talks about MULTI-Touch over and over and over again, so it should be OBVIOUS that the next paragraph is STILL talking about the same SUBJECT matter, which is the multi-touch patent. If you cannot make grammatical connections, it might be time to take a refresher course in English writing. Now I suggest that you get over it or take some meds as you clearly come across as about to have a seizure.

Pot, meet kettle.
Only YOUR opinion matters. Everyone else is a criminal or scum
Please provide a link to me calling someone a criminal or scum. Or, for that matter, where I show that "only my opinion matters."
Until you learn that you are nothing special and other people are allowed to have differing opinions from you and still have value, you will continue to find yourself right back where you started.
Oh, but I am something special. Everyone is special in many ways and I am no exception, neither are you. I'm fine with people having differing opinions—I'm fine with your view on what you wrote. You're the one refusing to admit that words can be taken in more ways than what you intended; that's what this entire exchange has been about.
I know my words mean nothing to you.
In that you'd be wrong. Everything I do or encounter means something to me. Your words become a part of my life and give me both reflection and a foundation of experience.
I know your kind
I doubt that you do.
So I will let you continue on your way to nowhere and ignore your pointless blabbering from now on.
You can ignore me if you like; I know that's easier than admitting that you're wrong and that what you said has, at a minimum, a dual meaning. It's also easier than admitting your hypocrisy.
 
So, Im confused. Does the Blue hippo have multi touch?
If so you better patent the sh*t outta that, I want one too!:D


Please dont take me to task over my speeling and gramer
 
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