No one has said this yet but this is obviously for the Verizon customers because on AT&T you can use talk and data at the same time.
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Apple Awarded Patent That Lets Users Share Content With Others While on Hold
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Leaving the phone app to send an e-mail or anything else isn't what this patent is for. Surf and talk is there but this is more specific to having a visual menu of items to share with the person you've put on hold. It's different.
Seems you know little about VZW because the iPhone is one phone you cannot surf and talk at the same time but the Nexus can. I was surprised when I found out that my neighbor can surf and talk while on VZW using his phone.
Ah seems you beat me too it.
"And what was especially galling to Jeff? When he called them to ask, “What am I stealing from you guys?” they wouldn’t tell him.
Kelling: That was a question they wouldn’t answer. They said they wouldn’t answer that until we got into court. So they wouldn’t even identify what parts of our business or what they thought we were doing to use... to use their technology.
But to go to court, to answer that question, was gonna cost money. A lot of money.
Kelling: It was between two and five million dollars and that’s more than our company could handle, honestly. We knew we had to settle this thing somehow. There would be no more FotoTime today if we had to do that.
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As far as we can tell, and not a lot of this information is public, most of the companies being sued ended up doing what Jeff did and agreed to pay FotoMedia money. Some of them were put out of business."
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/441/when-patents-attack
while that part is true. Problem is you have patent trolls and companies like APple shoving threw crappent like this.
Under Jobs Apple was more like a patent troll suing with their crapents like slid to unlock and other that are crap. Cook seems more willing to just leave the crapents in the files to defend agaist trolls but never use them as a weapon.
You should consider that I was being sarcastic. I am definitely not anti-technology. That would be absurd.
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And actually - even if implemented - this feature wouldn't work on Verizon unless it worked via both parties also being on wifi and went though Apple's servers like iMessage.
Nice...seems like you could create your own personal hold entertainment.
Wonder if you can share music?
Wonder if you can share music?
Knowing Apple, it'll be iOS 7.1
What Apple are you talking about? I don't recall any patents showing up in the next release of iOS before.
Assuming I can't wait for that fascinating slideshow you want to send me, why would I want to get it in silence and look at it after the call? This could be useful if it was like that thing Samsung touts--doing two things at once. I could play some pics (or, *gasp* work-related docs) simultaneously while narrating/having a conversation.
Oh, right, Skype.
Oh, right, Skype.
Yes! Something the average person absolutely needs access to: hold music. :roll eyes:
"Are you mad that we've left you on hold for 4 minutes? Enjoy this slideshow of blurry pics from my night in Caracas!"
They should show the "visit our website and don't bother with people who leave you on hold" option.
There are these guys in the Samsung adverts, but I wouldn't know their names. Very likely someone in the Samsung test department as well, at least I'd hope so. So you really can't say truthfully that _nobody_ uses these features.
my co-workers have definitely used this feature to share pics of company events/dinners
Question about this. Verizon 4g can do simultaneous voice data on android and I understand the iPhone 5 can't even though it's 4g. That doesn't mean it won't ever though, right. Just trying to understand if it's a limitation of the iPhone that can't be fixed in furore versions of the phone.
Your right....only corps should have that.
There couldn't possibly be any OTHER use for feature...
/sarcasm
That's a valid take on it. But look at it this way: Apple and AT&T
partnered to release the iPhone and transform the phone industry, bringing us a new take on portable computing. This made Apple and AT&T a dominant force, and a lot of money. Verizon panicked, partnered with Samsung, and there is court ordered evidence that Samsung and Verizon scrambled to compete, understandably. The problem is this: to rush to the market you tend to copy and not take the time to create in an original capacity. Apple worked on the iPad and iPhone for 10+ years. Google saw that and released Android quick. Samsung saw that and released their products quick. It's like finding out you owe a 12 page paper tomorrow. What are you going to do, go through a research phase, multiple draft phases, seek an editor and perfect your original paper? No, you're going to look at Wikipedia and paraphrase what you read, and make it seem like you went through that process. That's what Apple has to deal with when they're a market leader. So for survival, they have to play the patent game as best they can. It's the nature of markets and business and life. You have to play to natures game. It sucks, but were you in Apples shoes you could not hope for a smarter strategy.
Unfortunately it didn't pan out, and even if Samsung owes money they made billions in the interim while the court cases play themselves out. No matter what Samsung and Verizon are rewarded for playing catch up. It's like getting a $100 speeding ticket in a rush to pick up a $1000 lottery ticket before the store closes. You calculate the expense and still decide the fine is worth it.
But that's a separate topic of debate.
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PS: To invent the apple pie you have to invent the universe first.
Who created slide-to-unlock and what had to be created before it to implement slide-to-unlock?
My point is that Apple and all companies patent these features as iterative of a larger invention. You just cover your ass, is what you do. It took a lot of capital investment to climb the technology to where slide to unlock exists.
Just so much miss information in there I am not even sure what to start.
My suggestion to you is get off the Apple Koolaid.
Example of slide to Unlock. MS had that one one of their phones YEARS before the iphone came out.
Android had touch screen out before the iPhone, Apples basic look looks a lot like a samsung device release a little before the iPhone and the LG prada.
That just goes to show you a lot of people had the same idea. Multitouch had been around for over 10 years before the iPhone, App store was not an Apple idea.
Android was built and able to go tablet with very little work. The iPad for the most part is a big iPod touch.....
I like the idea, they had the networks in minds when they came up with this
more money for the network providers and more iPhone promotion by the network.
more money for the network providers and more iPhone promotion by the network.
The post right above you summarized some of the reasoning, as well as a few other posts in this thread (https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/17624501/).
