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Just the other day on the radio I heard some indie artist saying she wasn't going to make her latest album available on Spotify because she wanted people to buy the CD.

Well my dear, you've officially decided you don't want people to listen to your music, it seems.

I realise artists get paid very little per play (I wonder how much labels get of that $9.99 price) but having your music out there means more fans, more merch sold and more people at gigs.

Sorry about that tangent, but I really wonder where people get their ideas sometimes.

I don't think Taylor Swift is hurting.
 
Just the other day on the radio I heard some indie artist saying she wasn't going to make her latest album available on Spotify because she wanted people to buy the CD.

Well my dear, you've officially decided you don't want people to listen to your music, it seems.

I realise artists get paid very little per play (I wonder how much labels get of that $9.99 price) but having your music out there means more fans, more merch sold and more people at gigs.

Sorry about that tangent, but I really wonder where people get their ideas sometimes.

Ya the artists are a bit short sided with this seeing that they get paid a fraction of a penny per play. A) It's more than what they would get from someone pirating the song B) These streaming services are in there infancy. Once more people join because it's a lot more convienient and the quality is guaranteed they will make more money C) As you said it helps them get exposure to make more money from concerts and merch. I can tell you I've discovered a lot of new artist that I wouldn't have had I know subscribed to Google play music all access.

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It's going to take a good feature like smart lists or lossless quality as an option to get me to change from Google Play Music since I got in when they were offering it at $7.99. The artists exclusives don't mean anything to me either. There is more than enough music to keep me busy I'll just listen to other artist.
 
I agree $7.99 is much better, due to the association with Netflix's pricing. Once I joined Spotify, however, I didn't feel like I was being ripped off. For the amount of content they provide, $9.99 seems in line with what I'm getting. Remember, $9.99 gets you "almost" anything you can think of (including new releases), whereas $7.99 on Netflix gets you last year's ticket.

Netflix series alone justifies the price.
 
Looks like I'll be going with Google if this is true. A better app, better organized and comes with Youtube without ads.
 
I read a rumor that Beats will integrate the whole iTunes-catalogue? Do you think that's possible? I think if someone could do that, it's Apple.
 
Apple has been the one company with genuine concern about the artists creating the music. Streaming services, as currently structured, are a financial disaster for songwriters. Perhaps Apple could conceive a way to right this ship so artists can realize a reasonable return?
 
The music industry will never learn.

Nope. They will continue to find the next "big thing" and beat it into the ground until people are sick of it.

They will never learn that no matter how hard you try, an autotuned turd is still a turd.

Music industry execs are a bunch of greedy bastards, worthy of having an upper-decker left for them in their bathrooms.
 
Apple needs to subsidize the $2 price difference and when the others services are out of business then the labels will submit to the new $7.99 subscription pricing.

Yes, because we should crush those greedy musicians into the dirt until they give us all the music for free. :rolleyes:
 
I get that Apple is trying to come up with something that makes sense and sets them apart from the other players (spotify especially). But I dont get why they were silent at today's event. They should have said something. Regardless of price, you would think the interface should be far enough along that they could have provided a preview. I guess we now wait for WWDC.
 
Taylor Swift anybody?

I wouldn't be too surprised if Apple approached her a few months ago with for an exclusive deal; she then makes these big public statements slamming Spotifys payment model, pulls her music off streaming for half a year until iTunes streaming comes along with miss Swift. And then we get to listen to that Taylor Swift song we're all too ashamed to admit we like.

I'll take off my tin foil hat now.
 
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I Don't understand Tim Cook why does he just dump Beats and turn ITunes into streaming service the way it should have been. Seriously I miss Steve Jobs so much this crap would have never when he was around.

I doubt the record labels would act any differently than in this example.
 
My counter-offer to the industry:
 

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ITunes Radio?

Will this replace iTunes Radio? Will it be included with iTunes Match as well? Or will they be parallel services that offer something different somehow?
 
Offer us a better quality music stream for $9.99 a month. CD quality please.

$9.99/month is MORE than fair for a service that allows you to listen to basically anything you want at any time, and even download it in 320kbs, with no ads. One CD would cost you more than that.
 
Since when is 9.99 pricing make for an industry standard and why doesn't Apple tell them to go pound sand.

Because the backroom mentality is Apple pockets the extra $2. Apple wants you to think they've got your back, but really, the bean counters at Apple pulled out their 15 digit calculators and figured out how much the extra $2 would earn them.

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$9.99/month is MORE than fair for a service that allows you to listen to basically anything you want at any time, and even download it in 320kbs, with no ads. One CD would cost you more than that.

Welcome to Microsoft and their Zune Music Pass from 5 years ago.
 
this whole exclusive to service xy BS is so stupid. no ones gonna pay for different services that do the same thing. itll just turn poeple to pirating once again. those labels never learn i swear

This. The ONLY reason I pay a monthly fee for Beats Music is because I can access virtually any song from any artist at any time. The moment I start finding too many gaps in availability is the moment I cancel my subscription and resort to alternate methods for music access, which are not likely to be favorable to either the artists or the studios.
 
Just the other day on the radio I heard some indie artist saying she wasn't going to make her latest album available on Spotify because she wanted people to buy the CD.

Well my dear, you've officially decided you don't want people to listen to your music, it seems.

I realise artists get paid very little per play (I wonder how much labels get of that $9.99 price) but having your music out there means more fans, more merch sold and more people at gigs.

Sorry about that tangent, but I really wonder where people get their ideas sometimes.

Apologies for carrying on down this side track. But do you really think that 'indie artist' hadn't weighed up the factors you mentioned? Do you think they aren't aware of what revenue streams they can access, and what each means to them? This is their livelihood.

Perhaps that artist has figured out what the incremental benefit to streaming on spotify is, and saw that it is negative. In their case, the cannibalism of record sales outweighs the potential growth in merchandise and gigs.

There is a limit to the number of gigs an artist can play (not to mention the heavy downside to a life of touring), and merchandise is not the area most musicians look to be successful in. There are also a lot of creative stakeholders who benefit not a jot from the sale of merchandise (such as the writers of the music performed that night).

The whole shifting of the debate towards blaming musicians for not choosing to make their living from selling T-shirts and 'meet and greets' is to me the same as encouraging app developers to combat piracy by shifting towards free apps but with IAPs for 'gold' and 'gems'. In other words, it's dumb and it's short-sighted.

I really wonder about some of these armchair economists, who think they have figured out how to win at the music industry (or rather their simplified take on it).
 
$9.99 is ok.....

Who can't afford that ?

if u were in business u'd want to make a profit too right?

Taylor Swift pulled her music from Spotify, because she said "She didn't wanna give her music away for free"..

Well, if Spotify is not paying people and keeping most of the profits, then that's not an end user problem, its their problem, and as a result less music will be available to stream regardless of the price, since the music labels wouldn't see it much go up anyway, all because these greedy companies want to get as much as possible..

What about playing fair ? no one hears of that anymore.
 
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