And some of us don't really care one way or the other (I don't drink for example). We just don't want some random senator trampling on our freedoms and Apple folding to extra-legal requests. Today publicly posted DUI checkpoints. Tomorrow all non-Christian religious apps (or whatever variant the "religious right" is on today). And so on.
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And some of us don't really care one way or the other (I don't drink for example). We just don't want some random senator trampling on our freedoms and Apple folding to extra-legal requests. Today publicly posted DUI checkpoints. Tomorrow all non-Christian religious apps (or whatever variant the "religious right" is on today). And so on.
Hardly a case of traffic jams at night like during the day.
Lame excuse.
Try again.
I have never, not once, driven drunk. I rarely drink, and 99% of the time I do, I only have one drink. I have, however, been stuck in hours of traffic due to checkpoints.
The last time I was stuck in a checkpoint was at night and I sat for an hour and a half in traffic. Just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it's not true.
Proves that you are a blow hard. People work night shifts. I used to work late shift and have been stuck waiting in DUI check points only to get harassed when all I was doing was trying to go home from work.
How old are you henchman? You come across as an 18-21 year old who thinks they know everything about the world.
You do realize the apps remain with all the PUBLICLY PUBLISHED and available detail from the POLICE? It's the information from the public that's removed?
My apologies, but I'm tired of the "if a single life is saved" argument. Maybe we should get rid of cars, as we lose 40,000-50,000 a year in accidents. Also we will have to stop having roofers and builders - lots of accidental deaths there. In fact let's wrap ourselves in pillows and stay in a protected climate controlled stall, like a cow! All our needs met like a farm animal. That's utopia!
Actually let's just make the US a giant prison with guards to watch what we eat and drink and do, you know the argument - if a single life is saved.
And don't kid yourself, you aren't for free speech.
Wow...you are giving WAY too much credit to the inebriated. I think some people here have either never been drunk themselves, or have forgotten just how dysfunctional one can be while intoxicated. If you can't drive a car properly, you certainly cannot be using a phone, finding and opening an app and looking at a map with any sort of cognitive reasoning.
Well then, if checkpoints are always at night it can't really be all about saving lives then now can it? Or are you under the mistaken impression that alcohol only gets sold or served after the sun goes down?
I think we can all agree that drunk driving is dangerous and should be punished. Not with a slap of the hand, (kids will be kids etc.), but really hard!
Whether Apple gets involved in law enforcement is the real issue here.
Plenty of companies sell things that are dangerous to ones health (say smoking) and the government requires some token wording to point this out to the consumer.
I think Apple should have politely declined to get involved in law enforcement, but they could ask developers to put in a slash screen with:
Drunk driving is illegal, kills etc. whatever with a skull and bones pic or whatever.
But , instead they got into politics, assuming this will sway some senators in the future, if they have an issue.
That is IMO very shortsighted, as these senators may at that point no longer be there.
While in general IMO Apple is wrong here IMO, they did decide in favor of their business and rather trying to win the war (politicians support) , than start a small side skirmish. (developer disappointed)
Oh grow up and show some respect for your fellow people. This isn't about the government trying to control you, its there for a good reason. And pigs? Do you feel cool calling them that? Why not show some respect for the decent police officers out there, at least respect them enough to avoid such petty names because you'll probably need their assistance one day. You seem to want respect regarding the curfew as you don't drive drunk, but your attitude about why this is in place is incredibly immature.
Wow, Chesapeake must have some major traffic issues then.
I have never been in a checkpoint for more than a couple of minutes.
And I live in LA.
Again, driving is a privilege, nt a right.
Airport security checkpoints are inconvenient.
Should we get rid of them as well?
Need I to remind anyone about the terrorists who were caught at a checkpoint trying to board a ferry in Canada, on their way to blow up a target in the US?
I'm quite happy that checkpoints are around, to prevent me from getting hit by some imbecile who wants to go out aftercwork, then drive home drunk.
Airport security checkpoints are inconvenient.
Should we get rid of them as well?
Need I to remind anyone about the terrorists who were caught at a checkpoint trying to board a ferry in Canada, on their way to blow up a target in the US?
I'm quite happy that checkpoints are around, to prevent me from getting hit by some imbecile who wants to go out aftercwork, then drive home drunk.
You're so full of crap. I sat in a check point off Pacific Coast Highway and Avalon for over 45 minutes. While I was waiting I was issued a ticket for having a modified exhaust even though my exhaust was factory stock. Yeah I didn't pay anything but I had to take a day off work to go to court.
Apples to Oranges. When you go to the airport you know, expect, and are prepared for a security checkpoint. When you are driving you never know. A check point can be the difference in you getting to work on time or you being late and written up.
Here are the facts, IMHO:
1. Apple has the right to refuse or allow apps--this is a marketing decision by a private entity, not censorship.
2. People have the right to report the location of police checkpoints--this is free speech guaranteed by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
3. Police checkpoints arguably violate the Fourth Amendment (even if some judges have said otherwise), making these checkpoints examples of criminal activity.
4. Apple arguably has a civic duty to support the reporting of criminal activity, but see item 1.
Regardless of how one feels about drunk drivers (I want them off the road as much as anybody, but I am disappointed with Apple's decision), the First and Fourth Amendments exist for very good reasons and they work very well together to protect everyone.
1. Apple has the right to refuse or allow apps--this is a marketing decision by a private entity, not censorship.
2. People have the right to report the location of police checkpoints--this is free speech guaranteed by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
3. Police checkpoints arguably violate the Fourth Amendment (even if some judges have said otherwise), making these checkpoints examples of criminal activity.
4. Apple arguably has a civic duty to support the reporting of criminal activity, but see item 1.
Regardless of how one feels about drunk drivers (I want them off the road as much as anybody, but I am disappointed with Apple's decision), the First and Fourth Amendments exist for very good reasons and they work very well together to protect everyone.
No, I'm not full f crap. Last checkpoint I went through was in Studio City on Ventura Blvd. Less than 5 mins.
So you called into work, telling them you we stuck at a checkpoint, and they wrote you up?
How about this - I think the assumption of guilt is BS.
It is not about the commute being longer for me. It is about what I feel is an assumption of guilt and a violation of my civil liberties through an illegal search - weather they are during the day or night. I know it doesn't change the current legality of it, but I disagree with the court on this.
LOL @ your post being given all those neg ratings.
Would you guys chop off your own fingers if a law were passed requiring you to do so?
Banning these apps was stupid, I agree.
Again, all, as you state yourself, your opinion.
IMHO I should make at least a million dollars a year.
But I don't.
And the exception to the 4th amendment is as follows.
What you think or feel or believe is of no consequence.
What you think or feel or believe is of no consequence.
I think getting a gun license should involve passing an IQ test.
Unfortunately, doesn't happen either
First off, what people think, feel, and believe absolutely is of consequence. This country wouldn't even exist if some people didn't think, feel, and believe that the way they were governed by the British was wrong. Just because the government says something doesn't mean the government is right.
As for your other point, you must hate states like mine where there's no such thing as a gun license. As you've pointed out, driving is a privilege, not a right. Gun ownership is a right.
Typical teenager who just began driving already on his phone and disobeying laws.
We'll value your opinion once you gain enough experience as a driver on the roads.