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Apple Begins Selling Certified Refurbished 16-Inch MacBook Pro Models Internationally
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Not only should it be plugged in and powered during that scenario (for so many reasons), many displays offer USB-C power pass through.
Lucky for you!
Have you checked the scenarios? Do you have the Radeon 5500M? I have monitored and measured it with Inter Power Gadget and iStats Menus and the apple support forum is full with complaints like this. I think all devices are affected.
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You dont need to power your MBP. Just plug in a (4k) display via orginal apple hdmi adapter and boom there are 20w just for the AMD power in idle and a hot MBP. 5W without an external display and ADM on. Its clearly poor driver design and an unfixed bug since months.
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I do indeed have the 5500m and I have checked the scenarios. 4K external display, the apps that trigger the GPU and so on. I don't have the issues others are reporting.
Remember the people who come to the forums usually are having issues. I stopped visiting the MacBook Pro forum here once my issues (popping speakers) were resolved by a software update.
Now thats interesting! So i just order a new one and maybe i am lucky and get yours
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Only the base config, alas.
Semi-OT: anyone know a German site for Apple deals? (Specifically, looking for good deals on Apple Watch Series 4 or 5.)
Semi-OT: anyone know a German site for Apple deals? (Specifically, looking for good deals on Apple Watch Series 4 or 5.)
Why wait for a refurb when the refurb sells for the same price as a new one? I didnt check today, but these machines have been $200-300 off since they could first be pre-ordered. Of course these are retailer prices, not Apple store prices.
There is a 14day return policy you know. If the display is dodgy then send it back. AppleCare is also available.
Perhaps that’s the case in the US, but it certainly isnt in the UK. Best I’ve seen here is a miserly 6% discount - plus of course there’s currently an 8-9 week lead time for cto machines vs refurbs which are next day.
No issues here. Turn off the adaptive display thingy. This is first step in setting up new machine!
This machine is more stable than my 2013, possibly because graphics are always engaged. So good job Apple.
And thank you for explaining how they improved this machine. AutoCAD used to crash when my machine went into sleep mode, but no issues now. And it is not running hot, and i dont hear any fan noise.
If you have an external display, of course it will affect performance. That takes lots of extra power. Apple is smart enough to automatically change settings when external monitor is connected, because there is limited power available. And limited cooling capacity due to constraints of it being a laptop.
In summary, i think you bought the wrong machine. It isnt magic. They never said that it would do max CPU load plus external display continuously, with battery fast charging the whole time.
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Okay, that would make a difference. The most I have seen for discounts are 10%, but usually a bit less. Ten percent is within the $2-300 range.
I forget that there may be an international audience here.
I think you dont get my points
These are all MBP 16 only related bugs. There has nothing to be magic. It just has to work properly. And its clearly not. I am using MBP since a long time and know what i am saying and doing. As well as many other affected buyers of the MBP 16. Its a shame, since its could be very good device and i was so amazed the first days.I think you dont get my points
I sometimes hear James May talking about doing things "properly", which invokes imagery of when men were real men, and when all people worked with stoic determination in accordance to the existential standard of "how things are supposed to be." But that idea is a little silly.
This question about the macbook is not about what is "proper", but about engineering, and in this case about the specific design choices Apple has made in developing this product.
I am happy to say that the 16" macbook performs exactly as designed. As designed, that is the key concept.
Now, if you wish it to perform differently, I fear there isnt much recourse. I admit this can be frustrating, but it isnt Apple's fault that you wished they made a different product from what they decided to make. Furthermore, it isnt the fault of the computer, since it is merely the manifestation of Apple's idea of the single laptop that can be sold to the maximum number of people
I think you dont get my points
Going from "it draws more power than I'd like" to "it doesn't work properly" and "don't buy" is quite a stretch.
Seems to vary by region. US and Canada only list the base 6C model, whereas the UK refurb store is showing a few more options, all 6C though but with 5500M 4 and 8GB variants.
How do you know that performs "exactly" (keyword: exactly") as designed, were you in charge of the design?
A "Pro" machine that gets really hot and get the fans running at 4000 RPM (when the max is 5000) just by connecting an external monitor and the CPU and GPU load is less than 2% is not a good machine and forget about being Pro.
Read all my issues. Its not about what i would like to have. Its about what its has to be now after 3 months on the market, time for fixes of these issues was enough!
These are annoying bugs, i never had with my previous MBP 2015 and yes, it does not work properly, when there are many blue pixel shifts on the display or it drains 20w more for just plugging an external monitor in, leading to throttle cpu performance or noisy fans or limiting my work time on battery to 4 hours (because of the high AMD power drain even in idle and w/o external display).
i would recommend to wait for a fix before you buy it, because if apple doesnt fix these issues i personally dont want to own this brandnew very expensive macbook pro.
Thats why i am returning it tomorrow. Again. And sadly.
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Its even more sad, because its no fault of hardware design but clearly driver aka software bugs, that should have been fixed by apple after 3 months on the market. They obviously cant or dont care.
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I have returned 3. They are all base models customised with 32G/1T.
First one: Laptop screen keeps flashing and external monitor just blacks out, when recovering from sleep.
Second one: Kernel Panic Restart every 1 or 2 hours even no external monitor connected.
Third one: Mouse gets stuck and laptop screen shows grey on colours occasionally when recovering from sleep. In addition, the lid slightly askew. This is literally the best one so far I get.
I do need one for work but no luck so far. Now, fingers crossed for the fourth one with 2.3/5500 8G/32G/1T customised model, which would be my last try!
First one: Laptop screen keeps flashing and external monitor just blacks out, when recovering from sleep.
Second one: Kernel Panic Restart every 1 or 2 hours even no external monitor connected.
Third one: Mouse gets stuck and laptop screen shows grey on colours occasionally when recovering from sleep. In addition, the lid slightly askew. This is literally the best one so far I get.
I do need one for work but no luck so far. Now, fingers crossed for the fourth one with 2.3/5500 8G/32G/1T customised model, which would be my last try!
Apple is so out of touch with reality.
Who cares about a refurbished 16MBP??
Look at the latest DELL. 5G, 30 hs battery life, small bezel, Facial recognition, 32gb RAM, WIFI 6.
IN the meantime, Apple is releasing an overpriced MBP, with a physical escape Key!!
Innovation cannot be any deader...
www.cnet.com
Who cares about a refurbished 16MBP??
Look at the latest DELL. 5G, 30 hs battery life, small bezel, Facial recognition, 32gb RAM, WIFI 6.
IN the meantime, Apple is releasing an overpriced MBP, with a physical escape Key!!
Innovation cannot be any deader...
Dell XPS 13 gets a bigger screen, while its Latitude 9510 laptop claims 30-hour battery life
The company also announced ahead of CES 2020 that its ultracompact XPS 13 is getting even smaller, but with a larger display.
www.cnet.com
Apple is so out of touch with reality.
Who cares about a refurbished 16MBP??
Look at the latest DELL. 5G, 30 hs battery life, small bezel, Facial recognition, 32gb RAM, WIFI 6.
IN the meantime, Apple is releasing an overpriced MBP, with a physical escape Key!!
Innovation cannot be any deader...
Dell XPS 13 gets a bigger screen, while its Latitude 9510 laptop claims 30-hour battery life
The company also announced ahead of CES 2020 that its ultracompact XPS 13 is getting even smaller, but with a larger display.
innovation is indeed dead when reality exists only in your imagination. it helps to be able to read and know when the discussion of one device ends and another begins.
let's look at the 30 hours battery life... ok...
That's not in a real-world test - meaningless then?
and it's using midrange components - ah yes. lots of battery because, not lots of power
it'll automatically tweak performance, audio and battery life based on the tasks you do (ie, throttling... even without high performance parts!
optional 5G mobile wireless - so... you're not getting anywhere near 30 hours with 5G enabled.
it also has a 1080p display which is beyond awful for a device of that size. not to mention no discrete graphics. and a maximum of 16GB of RAM.
here's one about the latitude alone to clear up why people care about the 16" MBP. https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/dell-latitude-9510
