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Apple is testing DRAM memory chips from China's state-backed ChangXin Memory Technologies (CXMT), according to a new report from the Financial Times.

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Last week, it emerged that Apple was in discussions with CXMT and fellow Chinese chipmaker Yangtze Memory Technologies (YMTC) about sourcing memory, with no deal finalized. The new details suggest Apple has since progressed to qualifying CXMT's chips specifically, running the company's memory through the kind of technical validation that typically precedes a supplier being approved for production use. Apple has apparently still not committed to using CXMT's chips commercially, and is continuing to lead a lobbying effort among U.S. tech companies to get Washington's blessing for broader use of the supplier's products.

CXMT has grown from a heavily subsidized and unremarkable domestic chip maker into the world's fourth-largest DRAM producer, behind Samsung Electronics, SK Hynix, and Micron Technology, accounting for roughly 11% of global DRAM wafer capacity last year. That share is expected to climb to 15% by 2028 as new production lines come online in Hefei, Shanghai, and Beijing. Qualifying CXMT as a working supplier now would let Apple tap into that capacity as soon as it needs to, rather than starting the testing process from scratch once a political green light arrives.

Standard DRAM contract prices are reported to have surged an estimated 55% to 60% in early 2026 as AI server demand pulled capacity away from consumer devices, and Apple recently raised prices across almost its entire product lineup as a result. A qualified fourth DRAM supplier would give Apple leverage in future negotiations with Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron, as well as a potential hedge against further shortage-driven price increases on devices built for the Chinese market.

Both CXMT and YMTC appear on the Pentagon's 1260H roster of firms Washington links to the Chinese military. In practice, that mostly cuts off Defense Department contracting rather than blocking ordinary commercial purchases, so nothing legally stops Apple from buying CXMT chips today. YMTC carries a heavier restriction, since it's also on the Commerce Department's Entity List, meaning any U.S. company needs an export license before dealing with it. What Apple reportedly wants from the administration is a promise that CXMT won't get pushed onto that same Entity List down the road, since that would effectively cut off the supply.

Back in 2022, an earlier attempt to work with Chinese memory suppliers, including YMTC, drew objections from Washington and was shelved after lawmakers pushed back. According to Bloomberg, Apple CEO Tim Cook has now taken the pitch directly to administration officials, framing it as a way to route Chinese-made memory into devices for the Chinese market specifically, which would leave more Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron chips available for products sold elsewhere. Not everyone in the administration is said to be on board, so it remains unclear whether the lobbying push will succeed.

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Article Link: Apple Begins Testing Controversial Chinese Memory Chips
 
If it’s in the same market then it’s good but I don’t think it’s safe if they have to use different companies because it could cause reliability issues here.
 
For multiple reasons the US must invest in a domestic chip-making industry rather than relying on the PRC.
Very true. But fabs aren’t going to come online overnight. There will be a number of years before enough domestic chips are readily available. Meanwhile, the memory shortage exists right now. I see no problem with keeping the Chinese chips in devices sold in China so that supply pressure can be eased elsewhere.
 
Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron are going to get f’ed by their own shenanigans.

The PRC will invest HUGE money into CXMT so they can rapidly expand their production. Once the inevitable AI bubble pops and the price fixing ends market demand stabilizes, CXMT will continue to run their factories at full capacity and undercut all the other players. This is a textbook move by a Chinese company to steal away market share - you’d think the big 3 weren’t that obtuse….
 
So I can haz cheap RAM again or not?
The RAM will not be much cheaper as the Chinese market is buying up all the memory also. But what helps is that the other big memory players have moved their focus into HBM memory for the AI data centers, and thus normal DRAM has been a victim. This would increase the options for DRAM.
 
The RAM will not be much cheaper as the Chinese market is buying up all the memory also. But what helps is that the other big memory players have moved their focus into HBM memory for the AI data centers, and thus normal DRAM has been a victim. This would increase the options for DRAM.
Incorrect. Prices have increased +$1,000. Please see my post.
 
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Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron are going to get f’ed by their own shenanigans.

The PRC will invest HUGE money into CXMT so they can rapidly expand their production. Once the inevitable AI bubble pops and the price fixing ends market demand stabilizes, CXMT will continue to run their factories at full capacity and undercut all the other players. This is a textbook move by a Chinese company to steal away market share - you’d think the big 3 weren’t that obtuse….
You are missing one vital point in your logic. The memory that the big 3 moved most of their capacity into is HBM memory, which the Chinese don't make and don't have the knowledge yet. So, the demand for HBM will just increase.
 
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For multiple reasons the US must invest in a domestic chip-making industry rather than relying on the PRC.

Apple just announced up to $30 billion worth of investment in Broadcom to design and manufacture chips for them, and this follows Apple and Samsung signing a deal on chip production at Samsung's Austin, Texas fab.


I'm entirely relaxed about Apple using Chinese DRAM. If it lowers prices by all means go for it.

Since the chips will be used only in domestic Chinese market products to start, Chinese consumers would be the only ones to see pricing relief, I imagine.
 
I sincerely hope it pans out better than OWC RAM! Over the years I've tried to resist paying premium for memory and have purchased many of chips from OWC. The life of each chip has ranged from 1 year to 5 max before I start seeing kernel panics all attributed to chip failure. I switch back to the original chips from Apple and poof... all issues disappear. Be nice to have affordable RAM that we can depend on not taking a long nap after a few years.
 
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