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Disable imessage before deactivation...

I’ve helped multiple users switch or disable imessage… it’s not that difficult. You just need to disable it on your phone, and make sure you don’t have your phone number assocaited with any ipads or macs. If people imessage your email address..those will go to your mac/ipad if associated, but if people send to your phone it should start working within a few minutes.
 
About time. I switch from android to iPhone a lot and the imessage issue is a huge pain. Apple should fix it. It's an issue, a huge issue and it's apples problem.
 
wouldnt the real problem here be that the sender doesnt have the "send as SMS" option enabled in their message settings? Seems to me from the description of the problem the issue here is not the receiver but the sender.

^this... Apple just needs to make the Send as SMS option enabled on all iPhones. This is the fix really.
 
I’ve helped multiple users switch or disable imessage… it’s not that difficult. You just need to disable it on your phone, and make sure you don’t have your phone number assocaited with any ipads or macs. If people imessage your email address..those will go to your mac/ipad if associated, but if people send to your phone it should start working within a few minutes.

It doesn't work.
 
Surely you would just remove the said iPhone from iCloud?

When I experienced this problem last year, I had turned off iMessage, deleted my iCloud backup (I had bought a Moto X and didn't plan to return to iPhone), restored the iPhone, and sold it. I also logged into the Support Profile to make sure it didn't show up there. Apple's servers still latched onto my phone number and none of my friends or family with iMessage enabled on their iPhones could message me.

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I’ve helped multiple users switch or disable imessage… it’s not that difficult. You just need to disable it on your phone, and make sure you don’t have your phone number assocaited with any ipads or macs. If people imessage your email address..those will go to your mac/ipad if associated, but if people send to your phone it should start working within a few minutes.

It should, but it doesn't. At least it didn't work for me, and it hasn't for many others.
 
I fully 100% support this lawsuit! And it's a real shame that Tim Cook's Apple requires lawsuits to get them to do the right thing. This would have been fixed immediately under Steve Jobs' Apple.
 
Only in the US you could actually win a retarded case like this.

This is not stupid at all! I would safe this is borderline anticompetitive of apple. A user who switches might go back to iOS if they have this problem, thinking their android is defective when its not.

This happened to me and I could not fix the problem. I had to call apple and have them manually unregister my phone number. When I called the automated said I would have to pay fee as my iphone no longer had support. I had to trick then menu to get a hold of a person without having to pay.
 
Very stupid lawsuit. It's either a bug or an honest mistake. :rolleyes:

If that were the case don't you think they would have it fixed by now? I mean they've known about it since 2011 and there is STILL no fix. It seems if you are aware of the issue before you deactivate your iPhone there is a series of things you need to do then you shouldn't run into issues but this only works if you heard it was an issue before hand. I'm in this boat and missing a bunch of texts from iphone users and we are going on almost a month now.

The lawsuit may be a little extreme but again since Apple has known about the issue since 2011 this may be the only way to get their attention and get them to actually do something about it.
 
what a waste of judicial resources

Sure, it might be annoying... but a lawsuit? Apple should file for a protective order. This man shouldn't be allowed within xx feet an iphone
 
Only in the US you could actually win a retarded case like this.

It's actually not retarded, its a valid issue. A friend of mine has his own business and relies on his phone to communicate with clients via email and text messages. A few months back he switched from an iPhone to a galaxy.... went through all the steps of unregistering his device, turning imessage off before restoring his old iPhone and still had this issue...

long story short he missed a bunch of messages sent to him from existing and prospective clients using iPhones. For someone with a small business that can be devastating for your reputation and bottom line.

So yes this is a real issue and I'm glad someone is suing over it. Watch Apple find a solution really fast now.
 
Only in the US you could actually win a retarded case like this.

How is someone else receiving your text messages retarded???

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It's actually not retarded, its a valid issue. A friend of mine has his own business and relies on his phone to communicate with clients via email and text messages. A few months back he switched from an iPhone to a galaxy.... went through all the steps of unregistering his device, turning imessage off before restoring his old iPhone and still had this issue...

long story short he missed a bunch of messages sent to him from existing and prospective clients using iPhones. For someone with a small business that can be devastating for your reputation and bottom line.

So yes this is a real issue and I'm glad someone is suing over it. Watch Apple find a solution really fast now.

Not to mention if he sold the phone it's very possible the new owner was receiving his texts. Recycled numbers will also receive the messages.
 
bitesms does a great job of this. press and hold the send button and it switches to sms. it also remembers your selection.
 
Only an Apple extreme fanatic would side with Apple on this. Period.

Fix it Apple.

If you honestly think this is user error, it's time to get your head out of the sand.


w00master
 
By the way I love apple and use the iphone. It's just god forbid I need a temp device again and don't want to shell out 700 for a new iphone

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bitesms does a great job of this. press and hold the send button and it switches to sms. it also remembers your selection.


Yup, telling everyone you have ever texted that they need to do this from now on is a great solution!!!

It doesn't stick for too long either btw. Eventually it switches back to iMessages
 
bitesms does a great job of this. press and hold the send button and it switches to sms. it also remembers your selection.

thats great, but what are the chances everyone texting you from an iPhone is jailbroken, has bitesms, knows about this feature and has the presence of mind to use it because you switched devices.
 
wouldnt the real problem here be that the sender doesnt have the "send as SMS" option enabled in their message settings? Seems to me from the description of the problem the issue here is not the receiver but the sender.

you can't expect the sender to change their phone settings or habits because someone else got a new phone. this is apple's problem to fix - one they've known about since 2011.
 
It's actually not retarded, its a valid issue. A friend of mine has his own business and relies on his phone to communicate with clients via email and text messages. A few months back he switched from an iPhone to a galaxy.... went through all the steps of unregistering his device, turning imessage off before restoring his old iPhone and still had this issue...

long story short he missed a bunch of messages sent to him from existing and prospective clients using iPhones. For someone with a small business that can be devastating for your reputation and bottom line.

So yes this is a real issue and I'm glad someone is suing over it. Watch Apple find a solution really fast now.

SMS, MMS, and iMessage all have differences. Within that functionality is different utlity, but you and your buddy don't have a clue what you signed up for with 'iMessage'.

It's sad you wish ill on a co that has given you their best.

Long live Apple... and the integrity/ethics they still stand by.
 
A fix for this could be an iMessage web app in the cloud which gives you the option to change settings/turn of iMessage for a number etc even if (like seems to be the problem for many people) they've sold their device or switched without properly switching iMessage off, because they will still have an apple id.

Turning of iMessage has always worked for me, nobody has ever had trouble reaching me/had messages disappear into the ether, am I the majority or the minority here?
 
That's the whole issue. The iMessage system recognises the now Android phone number as 'able to receive iMessages', so when another iPhone user sends a message to that number it gets scooped up by the iMessage servers, but they can't deliver it because the device connected to that number isn't an iPhone...

I dont have this issue as I have been a loyal fan since the begining. However, my experience is that when I send a message with imessage it will try to send it and if it cannot it tells me that it was sent a regular text message (SMS). So why does it not do that here? When it clearly realizes in the vast servers at Apple that a message is not delivered why does it not switch to SMS as it does for me? What am I missing here?
 
Priorities

They had plenty of time to create several versions of flat icons for pOS7, but can't figure out how to handle this. I'm just sayin'...
 
That's not a proper solution. Not everyone keeps their phone on all the time. There's no reason you should stop receiving messages, albeit late, just because your phone was out of range for two weeks, which it is when I go on foreign business trips.

You would just get a text message then....
 
I dont have this issue as I have been a loyal fan since the begining. However, my experience is that when I send a message with imessage it will try to send it and if it cannot it tells me that it was sent a regular text message (SMS). So why does it not do that here? When it clearly realizes in the vast servers at Apple that a message is not delivered why does it not switch to SMS as it does for me? What am I missing here?

Mine just shows a red exclamation and says could not send.
 
SMS, MMS, and iMessage all have differences. Within that functionality is different utlity, but you and your buddy don't have a clue what you signed up for with 'iMessage'.

It's sad you wish ill on a co that has given you their best.

Long live Apple... and the integrity/ethics they still stand by.

wow I dont even know where to begin with this. Put down your Apple pom-poms for a minute and educate yourself on the issue. my friend knows what he signed up for with imessage... what he didnt sign up for was for Apple engineers to screw this up so that Apple servers hold his number hostage once he leaves the apple ecosystem.
 
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