It's my prefer form as well, but I know that emails can get lost or delayed, and everyone has received a text message a day or two after it has been sent...
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Apple Being Sued Over Phone-Switching iMessage Issue
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It's my prefer form as well, but I know that emails can get lost or delayed, and everyone has received a text message a day or two after it has been sent...
Yep thats works but then they are like "why don't I get iMessages on my iPad/Mac anymore". They don't want to alter their stuff just for me.
So, if someone has a "solution" they are unemployed? That's ridiculous
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And on a side note: Some of the best developers out there are the "unemployed and uneducated" nerds who mod games and customize kernels for the fun of it. There's a reason why government agencies and major businesses across the planet try to recruit people just like that.
On another side note: "highly paid and educated" is not always a good thing. I've worked in companies with "highly paid and educated" developers who don't know the difference between C# and a transistor, and can barely scribble a single line of code... but oh boy can they fib their way through interviews.
it's not only about receiving money for monetary loss. because the business and corporate world really only listen's to money, that's what is perceived as justice in this country. the fact that someone has a phone that cannot be used to it's full extent because apple hasn't fixed a bug they've known about for 4 years is cause for a lawsuit. if you buy a product from company X, if company Y is making that product not work correctly, company Y is responsible to fix it. apple has not fixed it and a lawsuit, after 4 years, is apparently the only way to make them listen.
It's super annoying and could be an easy fix. When a user restores a phone, treat iMessage the same as find my phone (must turn it off).
iPhone is so 2009. Only old people use them now.
I don't miss my 5s after switching to android. But if apple does a 5.5" with a decent pen solution (apple or 3rd party) for note taking and outlining I'll probably switch back.
iPhone is so 2009. Only old people use them now.
I don't miss my 5s after switching to android. But if apple does a 5.5" with a decent pen solution (apple or 3rd party) for note taking and outlining I'll probably switch back.
In their support documentation Apple says they actually do this...but it doesn't quite seem to work in many cases it would seem.It's super annoying and could be an easy fix. When a user restores a phone, treat iMessage the same as find my phone (must turn it off).
iPhone is so 2009. Only old people use them now.
I don't miss my 5s after switching to android. But if apple does a 5.5" with a decent pen solution (apple or 3rd party) for note taking and outlining I'll probably switch back.
Why? You were wrong. (That doesn't change the fact that Apple needs to solve this problem.)
Or perhaps people who might have this type of weird thinking.
It'd be good to perhaps actually understand the issue first.
I don't think this person has standing. Apple is not interfering with "her" ability to receive messages, Apple has broken the functionality of the messaging app on the iPhones attempting to send messages to her. The problem isn't on the Receive side, but the Send side. I think a Sender would have standing, but there are ways to force the message through as a Sender, so there might not be much of a lawsuit.
The fine print might protect Apple from from a legal point of view, but surely won't make users magically happy about the situation. On top of that, the last thing Apple wants is its users starting to consider iMessages unreliable and switch back to normal messages or different messaging clients.
Personally i dont think this has been willfully done. And i honestly dont believe Apple just "stopped" working on the problem. When you buy a cellphone you agree to the terms and conditions, which does not guarantee 100% reliability obviously, otherwise everyone could sue Apple for any little problem. I guess this is a delicate issue and up to the judges to decide if Apple is to be charged for not fixing the problem "fast enough" or not offering a fix at all. The reason i quoted this as retarded is because the user automatically assumes that Apple's service iMessages MUST have a functioning forwarding mechanism (to SMS). The service runs over the DATA plan and not over the TEXT (SMS plan), therefor, in my opinion, it excludes Apple's liability for failing to deliver a functioning 'trigger' from DATA to SMS. iMessages remains a service just like WhatsApp or KIK messenger etc., that rely on a data plan. If a person sends a TEXT to another person, he must make sure his TEXT is actually an SMS. I really dont see that Apple can be made accountable for failing to forward a DATA text to an SMS text
Yup, it's rather simple. Apple associates your phone number with iMessage to know when you can receive/send such messages, they better be able to figure out how to stop that when you no longer have a device that supports iMessage. And if they don't, as they apparently even themselves admitted, then there's a problem, and when it drags on for so long, something needs to be done to push them to address it finally.
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Someone has standing, and the problem exists, so there's a point there.
Messages is marketed by Apple as a "smart" messaging system which uses iMessages when possible but falls back to normal messages when not. The complaint is that in this particular case Messages fails to fall back to normal messages: the sender assumes that an iMessage has been correctly delivered, but actually no message has been delivered to the intended recipient at all.
I'd very, very pissed if they implemented such a solution. Every time I travel somewhere abroad with roaming switched off iMessage gets unregistered from my phone number? Are you nuts?
The solution is to implement iMessage administration as part of iCloud, so you can deregister an iPhone if necessary, though what all of those doofuses should have done is unregister iMessage on their iPhone before getting rid of it.
I can see that happening. This world is just full of cry babies and I'm entitled because I'm special. lol
I've tried that. Even waited 15 days before selling my iPhone to ensure people would text me. Even removed the phone from my supportprofile, no go. Disabling iMessage, I'd send out as text, but people would reply with iMessage.
Granted I am back on the iPhone and don't care, but I can definitely see merit behind this lawsuit. Especially since I've called AppleCare multiple times and no one had an answer. AT&T's answer was "change your phone number".
As far as people saying it is "proprietary" or "has fine print" and Apple cannot be sued....
Let me give you all a clue...
Fine print is nullified in court all the dang time. If it is "unfair" "noncompetitive" or violates the law, certain paragraphs or sections in contracts (which EULAs are) can be voided by judges. It happens a lot.
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As far as govt action goes:
At the very least, the FTC is paying close attention as it most certainly harms the public. Would imagine the FCC is paying attention too - as they have already created regulations for iMessage-like services. If a proper solution (from Apple) isn't released within the year, don't be surprised to see government action of some sort.
Heck, I wouldn't be surprised to see the US do something in the next couple months.
Let me give you all a clue...
Fine print is nullified in court all the dang time. If it is "unfair" "noncompetitive" or violates the law, certain paragraphs or sections in contracts (which EULAs are) can be voided by judges. It happens a lot.
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As far as govt action goes:
At the very least, the FTC is paying close attention as it most certainly harms the public. Would imagine the FCC is paying attention too - as they have already created regulations for iMessage-like services. If a proper solution (from Apple) isn't released within the year, don't be surprised to see government action of some sort.
Heck, I wouldn't be surprised to see the US do something in the next couple months.
So even by your "shouldn't be allowed xx feet of an iphone" means he won't receive texts on his non-iphone.
That Apple even let it come that far is just sad. The fact that you have to jump through several hoops in order to prevent this issue from occurring is even more unlike Apple. Hopefully Apple will respond with a solution, not (just) a legal response.