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So if I steal something, but I was never going to buy it that makes it a victimless crime? I’m not sure how that logic works



Well, that’s just public perception and not reality. It’s just like some people think that if you eat grapes in the produce section at a grocery store, it’s not shoplifting. It’s shoplifting.
first part -- if you steal something from a store that the shop owner has paid for is different because, yes, the shop owner is now out that money he paid. The worth of a digital file is different. It doesn't cost the studio or software maker anything if I torrent it. If I was never going to pay for it anyways, they're still out nothing.

second part -- almost any fresh produce stand i go to wants you to taste the grapes or strawberries or watermelon first, so you can see how good it is. A grocery store is no different and to be honest, I don't ever recall the grapes having been picked over so badly they're unsaleable. Also, where I live, the grape bags (and cherries, etc.) are all open to "test" before buying.
 
Great news. Zero tolerance for piracy.
Such a close-minded take.

Westerners could never comprehend a family earning 700 dollars per month, with a kid only having access to some old PC (which has to be shared with all the siblings) as their only form of digital entertainment.

Pirating cool movies, anime, and classic video games is what helps those people broaden their horizons and live more fulfilling lives. And you'd much rather have children accessing that instead of predatory F2P games or free TV shows. Don't even pretend otherwise.

If you can afford to buy all the digital stuff you want — good for you, but please don't take this privilege for granted.
 
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I wasn't talking about Streaming I was taking about Buying / Purchasing a digital copy which Netflix isn't in the business of selling copies anyways so your example doesn't apply. For example Sony, Apple and other platforms where you can own a digital copy. As I said owning isn't owning anymore because of some licensing issues. Again I repeat I'm talking about Owning/Buying not renting or Streaming services.

Way to miss the forest for the trees.

I was trying to use streaming as an example, but you still seem to miss the point. The rules are the same. You don't own the digital copy, you have purchased a license. And the terms of service that came with that copy tell you everything you need to know.

I know they're impossibly long and purposefully difficult to read, but people should really read the terms of service some time. It's what they're agreeing to, after all.

Do you really want to own a copy of a movie? BUY A PHYSICAL COPY.
 
If buying a movie doesn't mean you own it, then it isn't stealing to download it.

You haven't bought a movie. You have bought a license to watch a movie, after agreeing to the terms set by the license holder.

Sometimes I really wonder if people are being purposefully obtuse, of if they honestly don't understand.
 
Came in here expecting the usual Apple can do no wrong commenters.

Of course, I was not disappointed. There are plenty of uses for torrents that are legal guys. It’s most likely Apple just doing the usual malicious compliance…
Its not only the rabid cult members that are doing this.

Its everywhere.

These mega corporations are fleecing us and these people dont want us the consumers, to fight back.

Examples:

Purchased games in digital form removed from the store and your library, but no refunds.

Purchased movies in digital form? Same as above.

Games publishers recently said that we dont own the games, because we purchased a license.

Or one of my favorites, not being allowed to install whatever the hell i want in my iOS devices because apple said so, regardless of paying thousands of dollars for them.

Hell, cant even install another OS in them even if i wanted to.

Bonus, the biggest trigger of them all? Give ME the option to sideload apps on my supposedly owned device!
 
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