Apple 'Blown Away' by iPhone 5 Pre-Orders

[KPOM]

This proves nothing.

But this does!
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2012/09/17iPhone-5-Pre-Orders-Top-Two-Million-in-First-24-Hours.html

They're "blown away" every year. If you really think they didn't expect this, I have moon property I'm willing to part with on the cheap.

Yeah, I'm sure they really had 10 million ready to go but decided to hold back at 2 million to create demand.

Pre-orders grew 100% from 2011, which itself was a 70% from 2010. That is much larger than the overall growth of the smartphone market, and while some of it is carrier expansion, note that they didn't announce any significant new carriers on Wednesday. China Mobile and NTT Docomo remain the two biggest holdouts.

This kind of growth isn't going to happen every year. That it has happened 2 years in a row, in a slowing worldwide economy is pretty mind-blowing.

 

[dashiel]

If only you could put ios on the Samsung, holy crap that thing would fly.

Nope. iOS, XCode, LLVM and the AX series processors are a tightly woven system designed to take advantage of each other to eek out the best performance from the least power.

I was told a first hand account of the development of the Mail client where the hardware team, the UX team, the software team and the UI people would all sit around to hash out problems. One of the specific outcomes of those meeting was to have no more than 8 visible email messages showing in the inbox. At the time the the GPU guys said with 8 items moving on the screen it’s going to fly, but performance will slow exponentially as you add more.

The UI team can talk specifically to the guys who not only know how fast memory read/write is, but can explain it in a way that makes sense the UI/UX people. The opposite is true as well, the UI/UX team can mock-up something and software engineers have to figure out how to make it work.

When Tim Cook gets up at the end of a keynote and says “only Apple could do this” he’s not being hyperbolic, there literally isn’t another company on the planet that can control so much of their product. As Apple takes more & more control of the CPU architecture that differentiation will continue to grow. Now what will be really interesting is if Google takes a more direct hand in Motorola, they don’t have to right now as Android is selling smashingly well, but it could make for some really interesting products. Ditto Microsoft and Nokia.

 

[coolspot18]

remember the 3GS, which added speed, increased the camera resolution from 2 to 3 megapixels, and added a compass

No, but the iPhone 4 was a spectacular followup - Retina display, Front Facing Camera, Redesign, etc. If the iPhone 4 were weak followup to the 3GS, we would be talking a very different story right now.

 

[Tones2]

Same process each iPhone release:

1. Apple haters come: "Apple is faking the sales figures, they create the sold out to make some news".

2. Then the figures are released: Apple crushed everybody and beat it's old record. Samsung cry, haters just become more angry because they don't like Apple.

3. Apple release a new phone. Go back to #1.

Yeah...Whatever. Who really cares anyway. I'm sure the fact Apple makes tons of money off of inferior design specs somehow makes YOU feel better about YOURself.

I'm totally happy with my much superior in my eyes Samsung S3. I hope you are happy with your "slightly taller than iPhone 4S" iPhone 5.

Remember that Walmart is BY FAR the biggest company in the USA. Huge sales almost never equals quality. In fact, it's usually the opposite. It's what's the most dumbed down for the masses.

 

[Eddyisgreat]

Like I said, I'm sure the next couple iPhones will sell well due to the reputation of the previous releases. But we're already hearing the same things over and over - boring os, no new features, same old, same old.

the only thing we're hearing over and over is that apple is doomed to fail unless they radically shake things up. People have said this every year, EVERY YEAR and it never pans out. EVERY YEAR they sell more than the previous years. People are buying up the iPhone without even seeing it because they know it'll work well for their needs. What's the problem?

Remember that Walmart is BY FAR the biggest company in the USA. Huge sales almost never equals quality. In fact, it's usually the opposite. It's what's the most dumbed down for the masses.

LoL another tired argument. YES, everyone buying an android is going to hack it to death right? Because everyone who buys an android device knows what they are doing. And apple folks are dumb ? Is the jailbreak community a figment of our collective imaginations?

 

[machestnut]

as always Haters are gonna Hate.

 

[Zetaprime]

It seems to me that if there were 2 million orders in the 1st 24 hours then they should not have run out in the 1st hour unless they only had 100,000 or so units in stock. I can't believe they would have started out with so few, which leads me to believe that the Oct 5 date I got only about an hour after ordering started is a mistake and that most likely anyone who ordered in the 1st 12 hours at least ought to be getting their deliveries on the 21st regardless of what it says on their order status. I think it's more likely that the ordering system got screwed up by the load and started spitting out erroneous info.

 

[Ubele]

I think you have no idea what you're talking about.

If it's a "lame epic fail" then why in the hell are you planning to buy it?

You do realize that slimming down a phone as much as they did, while INCREASING battery life is pretty damn innovative, right? Maybe there's nothing that pops you in the face to make you think it's "innovative," but that doesn't mean it's not. Don't forget about iOS 6, too, and the features in that. Innovative or not (it's all subjective), one thing's for sure: Apple executes effectively and better than anyone else.

Sigh... I sometimes wonder how Johnathan Swift, Mark Twain, and Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. ever got away without using emoticons and <sarcasm> tags. I was joking, people. I thought that was pretty obvious, but I guess not. I think that the iPhone 5 is a good, solid update, and that's why I'm buying one.

 

[Not Bill Gates]

I'm gonna wait for the iPhone 10. Looks promising.

 

[linkgx1]

I'm gonna wait for the iPhone 10. Looks promising.

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i'm loling so hard right now!

 

[afinch1992]

hahaha thats a good one

 

[thewitt]

It seems to me that if there were 2 million orders in the 1st 24 hours then they should not have run out in the 1st hour unless they only had 100,000 or so units in stock. I can't believe they would have started out with so few, which leads me to believe that the Oct 5 date I got only about an hour after ordering started is a mistake and that most likely anyone who ordered in the 1st 12 hours at least ought to be getting their deliveries on the 21st regardless of what it says on their order status. I think it's more likely that the ordering system got screwed up by the load and started spitting out erroneous info.

Except you have no idea the distribution of those orders. Half of them could have occurred in the first 60 minutes....

I do agree that many people with an October date will get phones early, but only because production has not slowed and they will ship everything that comes off the assembly line every day.

 

[mrxak]

Went down like this:

I'd been making ROMs for android devices for quite sometime and was running a Motorola Xoom. I was waiting and waiting for an upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwitch when the iPad 3 came out. It just looked awesome so I went and got one. It was love at first sight. For the most part it was the build quality, weight and thickness of the device that sold me. As I started using it more and more I was shocked at how much nicer the apps were compared to android apps, they are much more mature.

After that I had to have a MacBook/iMac. Then I felt the wife needed a MacBook Air. I wanted Apple TV you can see were this is going. Other than the onslaught of teenage android BS because android users are immature I've loved all of it. Once you use a Mac it's hard to go back to cheap plastic computers.

So I'm leaving a lot of my android friends behind, it's gonna be a whole new life for me on the iPhone. I will be spending a lot less time developing on android and more time on something more useful. It's really the developers that make android work. I'm sure like me over time they too will get tired of carrying Google on their backs..

Objective-C is pretty fun, and if you're competent with C it's a piece of cake. Java is just, ugh. I like Java, I just never like doing any serious coding with it. It gets so cumbersome after a while.

 

[zone23]

Objective-C is pretty fun, and if you're competent with C it's a piece of cake. Java is just, ugh. I like Java, I just never like doing any serious coding with it. It gets so cumbersome after a while.

Well I do plan on doing something with development just not sure what yet. I learned a lot using android and hope to bring my experience over to the iPhone. I was looking at some of the phone themes and would love to do some work with that. See were Apple takes me next..

 

[samcraig]

Although I would argue that Apple still has yet to create a great email client for the iPhone. It's always been one of my biggest gripes about iOS and each iteration I hope they will "revolutionize" it - but it goes mostly untouched.

Nope. iOS, XCode, LLVM and the AX series processors are a tightly woven system designed to take advantage of each other to eek out the best performance from the least power.

I was told a first hand account of the development of the Mail client where the hardware team, the UX team, the software team and the UI people would all sit around to hash out problems. One of the specific outcomes of those meeting was to have no more than 8 visible email messages showing in the inbox. At the time the the GPU guys said with 8 items moving on the screen it’s going to fly, but performance will slow exponentially as you add more.

The UI team can talk specifically to the guys who not only know how fast memory read/write is, but can explain it in a way that makes sense the UI/UX people. The opposite is true as well, the UI/UX team can mock-up something and software engineers have to figure out how to make it work.

When Tim Cook gets up at the end of a keynote and says “only Apple could do this” he’s not being hyperbolic, there literally isn’t another company on the planet that can control so much of their product. As Apple takes more & more control of the CPU architecture that differentiation will continue to grow. Now what will be really interesting is if Google takes a more direct hand in Motorola, they don’t have to right now as Android is selling smashingly well, but it could make for some really interesting products. Ditto Microsoft and Nokia.

 

[kdarling]

Pre-orders grew 100% from 2011, which itself was a 70% from 2010. That is much larger than the overall growth of the smartphone market, and while some of it is carrier expansion, note that they didn't announce any significant new carriers on Wednesday.

True, the only launch country difference between this year and last was the addition of Hong Kong and Singapore.

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As for sales growth, both Apple and Samsung are going like gangbusters compared to the other smartphone makers.

For example, the Galaxy S3 is selling at three times the rate of the S2, and six times the rate of the S... all in a market with plenty of Android competition... even from within Samsung itself (e.g. the Note).

 

[imageWIS]

Thanks for the hate speech, Pal.

That term doesn't mean what you think it means.

 

[AustinIllini]

I'm gonna wait for the iPhone 10. Looks promising.

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I know this isn't real, because the maps logo is wrong ;-)

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That term doesn't mean what you think it means.

Hate speech may have been strong, but we all know what the innuendo was, and we all know that Tim Cook is often mentioned for his sexual ambiguity.

 

[harlequinn]

That's incorrect. The numbers you posted just tell how many pixels in the vertical x horizontal. These have also been misleadingly posted by different sites as well as Samsung's latest comparison ad to the iP5 to be resolution, but that is not correct.

To get to resolution you have to divide those numbers by the vertical and horizontal dimensions of the screen in either inches or centimeters. Since phone manufacturers tell you the screen size in the diagonal, you can use the Pythagorean theorem to determine how many pixels in the diagonal to derive a pixel density which is the true way of measuring resolution.

No, I'm 100% correct.

I wrote that he showed "pixel density". Pixel density is how many pixels there are vertically and horizontally (they can be non-square pixles) per metre or inch (depending where you come from in the world).

Screen resolution is how many pixels exist in the vertical and horizontal planes regardless of screen size.

You've just gone and re-illustrated the pixel density - not screen resolution.

Here are the wikipedia pages explaining these two different terms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_density

 

[IconicM]

No, I'm 100% correct.

I wrote that he showed "pixel density". Pixel density is how many pixels there are vertically and horizontally (they can be non-square pixles) per metre or inch (depending where you come from in the world).

Screen resolution is how many pixels exist in the vertical and horizontal planes regardless of screen size.

You've just gone and re-illustrated the pixel density - not screen resolution.

Here are the wikipedia pages explaining these two different terms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_density

Please take the time to read the first article you posted links to...completely. Here, I will copy and paste the part you need to read...

Note that the use of the word resolution here is a misnomer, though common. The term “display resolution” is usually used to mean pixel dimensions, the number of pixels in each dimension (e.g., 1920 × 1080), which does not tell anything about the resolution of the display on which the image is actually formed: resolution properly refers to the pixel density, the number of pixels per unit distance or area, not total number of pixels. In digital measurement, the display resolution would be given in pixels per inch

What do you think now??

 

[Zetaprime]

I went to the store today expecting to be able to cancel my pre-order once I had a phone in hand..Well there I was with phone in hand when I discovered that my shipping status had changed to 'preparing to ship' and it could no longer be cancelled. I went home empty-handed. But it still says 2 weeks/Oct 5 and my credit card has a pending charge for the price of the upgrade. Meanwhile no email saying it shipped. It seems like they made sure to change the shipping status to prevent cancellations just when the phones became available in the store. Sounds fishy to me.

 

[harlequinn]

Please take the time to read the first article you posted links to...completely. Here, I will copy and paste the part you need to read...

Note that the use of the word resolution here is a misnomer, though common. The term “display resolution” is usually used to mean pixel dimensions, the number of pixels in each dimension (e.g., 1920 × 1080), which does not tell anything about the resolution of the display on which the image is actually formed: resolution properly refers to the pixel density, the number of pixels per unit distance or area, not total number of pixels. In digital measurement, the display resolution would be given in pixels per inch

What do you think now??

That's interesting - but I'm still correct since we are referring to lcd screens connected to computers (that's what a phone is).

This is a better quote "The display resolution of a digital television, computer monitor or display device is the number of distinct pixels in each dimension that can be displayed."

It has been this way for a long time. You're reading wikipedia - anyone gets to put a partially incorrect reference in. That note - if you read the referenced article - refers mainly to broadcast television cameras and picture acquisition. It's measured by horizontal resolution in relation to available bandwidth. When the referenced article starts talking about digital television it is also talking about broadcast television standards. I've changed the wikipedia page to reflect this ;-)

Computer monitor resolution has always been spoken of in terms of the first line I've quoted. I.e. the total vertical and horizontal pixels regardless of size. It's been this way for at least the last 25 years (from memory). If you look at the specification sheets for the thousands of monitors over the years that have been released you'll see they all quote screen resolution as just 1024x768 or 1280x720, etc. Not 74ppi or 85 ppi or whatever the pixel density is.

Furthermore if you look farther down on the wikipedia page you'll see the computer monitors section (which is separate from the televisions section). Starting with VGA, moving to SVGA, then XGA. These are standards specifying the horizontal and vertical resolution without regards to size.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_display_resolution

Look at it this way. If pixel density is exactly the same as screen resolution, then they would be exact synonyms and there would be no use for two terms. As it is two terms evolved and people are recently trying to conflate the two terms to mean the same thing. They don't.

You would be correct if we were talking about optics, or television cameras - but we're not.

BTW - In an ideal world resolution (in general usage) would be measured in pixels per metre (using the SI unit), and I'd be happy to use pixel density as the main meaning of resolution. It just didn't pan out that way.

 

[IconicM]

It has been this way for a long time...Computer monitor resolution has always been spoken of in terms of the first line I've quoted. I.e. the total vertical and horizontal pixels regardless of size. It's been this way for at least the last 25 years (from memory).

OK, so you've been around the terminology for a while and have seen the term "resolution" used for monitors and so what I am telling you is completely foreign ...but please be open minded and listen, or read this...

http://www.robertcailliau.eu/Alphabetical/I/Images/zDigitalImages-en.xhtml

Monitors and TV's are made in standard sizes. In the link you posted, it is assumed that the pixels are the same size, that's why more pixels = bigger screen.

But let's compare a different way. It's easy to "see" that a 42"-1080P (1920x1080) monitor has better resolution than a 42" 720P (1280x720) monitor. Yeah they are the same size, so the 1080P has better resolution. But why? Because each inch of that 1080P display has more pixels than the 720P, more PPI. The pixels in the 1080P are smaller and can "RESOLVE" more detail.

If iP5 at 326 PPI were made to the same size as the SG3, the screen would be 1362 x 766. Smaller pixels equals higher resolution

 

[golf1410]

Some of early adopters. Yellow screen baby.

 

[Mr.damien]

Yeah...Whatever. Who really cares anyway. I'm sure the fact Apple makes tons of money off of inferior design specs somehow makes YOU feel better about YOURself.

I'm totally happy with my much superior in my eyes Samsung S3. I hope you are happy with your "slightly taller than iPhone 4S" iPhone 5.

Remember that Walmart is BY FAR the biggest company in the USA. Huge sales almost never equals quality. In fact, it's usually the opposite. It's what's the most dumbed down for the masses.

Yes, and if some day Walmart is selling a lot of GSIII, people will say: "Haha, see. SGIII is better than iPhone". And the fact that Walmart is selling only craps for masses will be gone.

Anyway, all reviews of the iPhone 5 kick SGIII.

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Some of early adopters. Yellow screen baby.
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I would like to see who are providing those screen, but I am almost sure it's LG.