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Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking Steve Jobs to run Worldwide Operations.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking Dexter to not suck this final season.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking Breaking Bad to suck this final season.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking Twitter for 141 characters.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking Jony Ive to change the newsstand icon.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking OS X installation screen to print the correct estimated amount of time left.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking for Ocean's 14.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking for a bag of cookies where all cookies are intact.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking for Lay's to make Lay's Ketchup for USA.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking for NBC to do the Tonight Show right.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking that dude that's texting while crossing the street to walk faster.

hahaha... the best comment of the decade! but everything you said is 100% true.
 
"Steve Jobs left 4 years of great products in the pipeline" Well, two of 'em are gone and we're still waiting.

Time takes care of a lot of things. Let's just wait.

I seriously doubt that Steve Jobs left "an improved MacBookAir" onto the pipeline. Or any upgrade to a known device (iMac,Mac Mini, MBP, MBA, iPad, iPhone).

If you know you're going to not go on for much further, wouldn't you leave behind really grandiose ideas, suggestions and things that can be perfected years from now after the regular upgrades and design improvements have resulted in, well, more tech know-how at Apple.

I do wish that "4 years of great products in the pipeline" wouldn't have been phrased like that, or that people would just have some patience. These might have been "SJ years" instead of "Apple product cycle years with quarterly reports".

After all, the iPad was sketched out in the 70s or something.
 
Innovation needs to focus on power - eliminating the battery or drastically improving the size to capacity ratio ... therein lies innovation as well as improving our environment.
Frankly, in terms of myself - innovation means learning to live off the grid - freeing myself from the next upgrade or obsolescence.

This is one great reason why I'm hoping that the next MacBookPro I get does have the inventions unearthed by PatentlyApple - i.e., solar panel layering at the back of the laptop, Fuel Cells being recharged and providing the electricity, and so on. Obviously, I trust that I'll have that by the time I've started and built an Earthship, so I give Apple 10 years to come up with that stuff.

But it'll be amazing! Off-the-grid / self-charging Apple devices are the future, that's for sure.
 
rmwebs said:
Yay......Exciting....



Sadly no compelling new products (that we know of) are in the pipeline. Nothing that will have a huge impact like the iPhone and iPad did.

If you are unable to foresee the possible impact and technical possibilities of a smartwatch like iWatch, you really lack any kind of vision or fantasy.
This can and hopefully will change a entire market just like the iPhone did.
Most likely we only have to wait until flexible displays get cheaper and easier to develop, but then it could even make mobile phones as we know them obsolete.
Progress in developing flexible batteries will be needed to.
But with today's technology Apple made everything one can imagine out if it.
Without new technical progress there won't be new revolutionary products.
Btw you cannot change markets every year.
 
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If you are unable to foresee the possible impact and technical possibilities of a smartwatch like iWatch, you really lack any kind of vision or fantasy.

Please sell this one to me because I don't understand it. Though to be fair I don't wear watches

What is the potential impact of an iWatch?
 
Aperture, iPhoto for iOS, Final Cut X, iWork, iRadio, Mavericks, rMBP, iPad, Maps..

Apple has dropped the ball on software. Their product launches are too far apart and availability is constrained, killing sales. They don't seem to understand web services at all. Anything with social features built into it is an afterthought with them.

Love Apple. Alarmed by the past year.

What about Logic Pro X? Solid update.
 
Probably they see that the pipeline is empty? That there's nothing grounbreaking at least on a drawing board, something that could be released in 2015. They are worried.
 
siri came out with the iphone 4s, which was released in october 2011.


and i agree they are perhaps not *revolutionary* innovations, but at least they add a flavour to the product.

its something to brag about, if you get my meaning.

the iphone 5 and iOS 7 now will bring 0 (zero) innovative feature. revolutionary or not.

yea that was my bad about the siri thing:D i'm stuck in last year, I think iOS 7 does add some flavor to the iPhone in a whole. Control Center, the back gesture...etc, these are awesome features added to an already awesome os, apple needs to take there time, and come up with something fantastic, I understand people want new products, but, at the same time, what was the gap between all of apples other industry changing products. I do understand your point though
 
If you are unable to foresee the possible impact and technical possibilities of a smartwatch like iWatch, you really lack any kind of vision or fantasy.

Meh, maybe you're right. I'm not a watch person - never have been.

It'd be like saying to a non-cyclist "Oh my god, Apple is working on this amazing new speedometer for cyclists, its going to change the world" - the guy who doesn't ride a bike couldn't give a damn.
 
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking Steve Jobs to run Worldwide Operations.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking Dexter to not suck this final season.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking Breaking Bad to suck this final season.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking Twitter for 141 characters.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking Jony Ive to change the newsstand icon.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking OS X installation screen to print the correct estimated amount of time left.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking for Ocean's 14.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking for a bag of cookies where all cookies are intact.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking for Lay's to make Lay's Ketchup for USA.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking for NBC to do the Tonight Show right.
Asking Tim Cook to innovate is like asking that dude that's texting while crossing the street to walk faster.

Americans can't get Ketchup flavoured Lay's?
 
Oh yeah... Apple should be really worried about innovating right now... Because all the other tech companies are coming out with they're own unique ideas ;)
 

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Just to name a few:

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/10/ios7-vs-android-a-quick-comparison-after-the-wwdc-keynote/

Add:

  • Qi wireless charging
  • NFC (not the big deal, but by far more succefuly adopted than Passbook and opens a wide new set of apps).
  • Many sizes/Options to choice: from 3"low res cheap media players to Full HD phones, there is an android (and/or wp) device for every one, 80% od the SP market domainace.
  • Quick Tech Adoption since is widely fragmented a new tech is introduced on non-mainstrema devices (as fingerprint scanners, proyectors, etc) if succeful then is adopted by mainstream (very hard for Apple to do such)
 
The reason why innovation is 'stuck'

Innovation is 'stuck' at Apple because that big-assed 'Apple TV' that was supposed to take the industry by storm in 2011 never materialized. It got stuck sideways in the pipe and blocked everything else behind it.
 
A WSJ item at that time indicated the dismissal resulted from Forstall's refusal to cosign a public apology with Cook. The apology did appear on apple.com from Cook.

There are other sources with the same info. Cook speaking of the dismissal mentioned "collaboration" many times. Video is on You Tube.

The Apple store employee never claimed to be in the boardroom or exec offices. News reports were available at that time. Dismissal of a high ranking executive who was with Steve back in the days of Next was newsworthy.

The Wall Street Journal doesn't know exactly what occurred to make Apple oust Forstall. Their reports are based on speculation and hearsay from third parties. When did Cook specifically mention that Forstall was let go because of collaboration problems? While I believe this could be true, I have never heard it directly from Cook. And, I agree... Forstall leaving Apple was newsworthy. Never said it wasn't. My point is that nobody knows the exact details.
 
When did Cook specifically mention that Forstall was let go because of collaboration problems? While I believe this could be true, I have never heard it directly from Cook.

Please do a search on You Tube. You will be able to see a video of Cook talking of collaboration in reference to Forstall's discharge.
 
Please do a search on You Tube. You will be able to see a video of Cook talking of collaboration in reference to Forstall's discharge.

I see some general comments made about collaboration and a reshuffling of many of the top executives at Apple, but I don't see a video where Cook specifically says that Forstall was let go because of collaboration problems. I see a lot of speculation online, and I believe Forstall could have been difficult to work with, but I didn't find any videos with Cook speaking directly about Forstall. I am not saying there aren't any, but I just can't find them.
 
The lack of innovation stems primarily from the lack of battery capacity which is the modern tech gadgets Achilles Heel.

To progress this bottleneck needs to be overcome.

Every hardware upgrade, every software upgrade, every new feature... The first question the execs ask is, "How will that effect power consumption???"...

The company that mass produces and markets a battery that recharges from 0%-100% in under 10 minutes wins.

Samsung's gimmicky bloatware doesn't equate to innovation IMHO!!
 
You can't make an iPhone game changer every year.

HOWEVER… anybody else notice the total lack of "Nope" from the usual Mac bloggers on the facts of this (let's be kind and call it a) story.

The video goes on way too long, labouring the point, but the fact is…

The story's out there, and nobody's denying it.

The real issue is Apple's lack of (the previously successful formula of) year-round product releases to bring in steady income. Maybe it thinks that in the current economic times, people are better placed to buy at the end of the year.

Still waiting for the denials.
 
The main changes I want aren't even innovations...

Just changes/upgrades.

1. More storage on the iPhone. I love iCloud as much as the next guy (especially iTunes Match), but the limited data plans carriers offer doesn't help anything. Give me 128GB, or allow me to use an sdxc (or mini sdxc) card. While we're at it, how bout different colors? Not a big deal, but the world hasn't been black and white since the 1950s.

2. Make a tablet that runs OS X. I'd love to have one of these for professional use. One that has either a USB 3.0 or Thunderbolt port, and an sdxc slot for expansion.

3. If it makes things any cheaper, and affordable to iFans, make a laptop that runs iOS.

4. How about a second attempt at a game console? I don't just mean the current Apple TV, but an actual game console, the likes of the new xbox/playstation? Apple has the fan base and the cash to be competitive.

5. As far as the current Apple TV goes, how bout just making more apps for it. Games would be nice...but if all they did was throw in a UFC app, so I could order my PPVs off that, and worked out a deal with HBO where you wouldn't have to be a cable subscriber to use their app...I wouldn't need anything else.
 
Well, there are areas the competition is way ahead of Apple - for example, in camera tech. There may be areas where Apple isn't far behind - unfortunately, imaging isn't one of them.

I'm sure if Apple wanted to make a bulkier and heavier device they could use larger and better camera tech. As it stands Apple prefers sleeker and lighter products, which consumers seem to like a hell of a lot more than anything by Nokia.
 
Again the world here is IF. We have no idea if this is true. And it's not like Charlie Gasperino or Fox Business have a solid track record when it comes to Apple news/rumors. So we're really supposed to believe someone on the Apple board is a leak siv when that really has never been the case in the past? As I said earlier in this thread its a bit too convenient that the alleged concerns of the board exactly mimic what all these financial "analysts" have been saying the past 6 months or so. And since Fox Business has zero track record when it comes to reporting on Apple I'm inclined to take this rumor with a HUGE grain of salt.

It's not unheard of for a Board director to leak information to the media that they are unhappy with the CEO performance simply because they can't exactly come out and say it directly themselves without either forcing a vote or resigning.

The Fox Business News guy said that his sources were absolutely solid on this story.
 
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